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[edit] Carried Over from Arc 007
- Shankbone got to see chickens come home to roost
- Apparently, the germans invented "Last Call for Alcohol"
- I got some crazy notions about AFD '08
- Some editors of 300 think I am the Big Bad Wolf, and others just think I am amusing
- I was blocked for 3RR (still don't agree with the basis for it, but who ever does?) and had a dickens of a time getting unblocked
- I learned about some nifty incident templates
- Braveheart got a Peer Review, and needs a bunch o' the TLC
- Alientraveler needs to expand his Guy Education
- Bigs and Erik are making waves ([1])
- Edit-warring in 300 (imagine that - an edit war about a war) led to it being downgraded from GA to B class, and getting locked until Monday, April 8
- In 300 Leonidas and Xerxes do not kiss. However, there is a Busby Berkeley dance number, which is something new for people to yell about.
- Apparently, THIS IS NOT YELLING.
- I receive help from a stranger (no, not that Stranger)
- I also receive html help from new friends, old friends and potential drinking buddies
- [ WP:Disambiguation|Disambiguation] and Redirect are two separate things
- I have a new crop of admirers.
[edit] 300 talk
No it's not at all surprising that an Iranian editor ends up editing 300, this is why we may have a problem on reaching a "universal" consensus. Miskin 12:44, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
- I think identifying folk by their national origin and attacking them on that basis is a hop,skip and a short jump away from racism. I don't condone it. While i feel there is a pro-nationalism edit Thing going on in 300, I think that addressing the nature of the edits is far more productive than slinging comments like that around. Arcayne (cast a spell) 12:53, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] may I?
May I use your penguin picture and caption on my userpage? Ootmc Signme!Talktome 16:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thnx Ootmc Signme!Talktome 16:40, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
- No problem.
[edit] Lucy Deakins
That's great info you added to the Lucy Deakins article. I've been wanting to fill out that article for quite some time now, but been having trouble finding bio info. Where did you find all of the info you added? Thanks. Roguegeek (talk) 20:10, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Regarding your concern on Devil May Cry's Featured Article nomination page, the article has been copy-edited heavily, since the other users that declared concern about the prose have already retired their opposision can you please take a look at it and reevaluate the article, thanks for your time. -凶 20:47, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
- I was considering simply taking out the first line on the Gameplay section:Devil May Cry is an action game where the player guides Dante through an ancient castle on a remote island, fighting groups of demons and other monsters in fast-paced combat. wich seems kind of illogical to have since most of these aspects are explained in the plot and when the stylish fighting system is described and simply start with a modified version of the second line:Devil May Cry consists of levels called "missions" where players must fight numerous demons, perform platforming tasks, and occasionally solve puzzles to progress through the story. I believe this is the first sentence in the section that actually talks about the game's gameplay, what do you think of this change? -凶 01:59, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Accusations of Stalking
Please don't accuse me of stalking, as it is considered acceptable to monitor users who seem to be making bad faith edits. It seems that you have made several bad faith edits in which made personal attacks against me and fellow editors. Furthermore you have deleted some of my edits, and those of Khorshid's in several talk pages. As you must know by now, ill-considered accusations are not tolerated on WP. Cheers. Agha Nader 03:03, 8 April 2007 (UTC)Agha Nader
- Hmm, I'm not sure what edits of yours and Khorshid's I have deleted, Agha. Perhaps you could provide me Diffs for this (excluding your uncivil remarks to me on my Talk Page which, which were removed as per the instructions of the text box at the top of this page).
- Perhaps you could point out these edits that - in your opinion - are bad faith edits. Just provide the Diffs please. As well, if you could cite a Wikipedia policy that excuses stalking behavior under the pretense of monitoring so-called edits. I eagerly await your response, Nader. Arcayne (cast a spell) 03:47, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- You bastardized Khorshid's edit in this edit [2]. And you admit to removing a comment I made on this talk page because it was in bold. Various users have called this "silly". You have called me a "Petulant, vengeful children", which is a bad faith edit. In this discussion [3] you have sniped me, and Dmcdevit admonished you: "Please do not refer to other ediors you disaree with as vandals, as this is uncivil". Furthermore, to your accusations of harassment he responded "The proper response to harassment is not response in kind." As you can see you have made many bad faith edits. You said I "work to undo edits that that challenges [my] nationalist view". The accusations go on and on. Including the accusation of stalking. You accused me of having a "merry little band", You accuse me of having a "frail post-Persian psyche". Obviously these are bad faith edits. Even though I have not edited on other article that you edit, you say I stalk you. This will not be tolerated. Cheers. Agha Nader 17:03, 8 April 2007 (UTC)Agha Nader
Gosh, so many accusations, and yet, so few diffs. Let's look at these individually (for the sake of the viewing audience), shall we?
- The first instance is when I removed a bold-text formatting to comments that were unmistably uncivil. When the editor chose to renew them, I didn't argue the point, as other editors did it for me.
- The comment I removed from you on my talk page is entirely within my purview, Agha; had you sinply followed the instructions at the top of my Talk Page (wherein I state the at rude or uncivil posts will be delected immediately), it would not have been removed. I am not the only editor to do this. Consider yourself fortunate that my tolerance for rudeness is as high as it is, as I could have simply decided that you had nothing constructive to offer, and simply write you off as strident noise. I allow your posts to remain on my page, because I keep hoping you will finally grasp the concept of good faith far better than it would appear you have done to date.
- I have not called you a "vengeful" or "petulant child", Agha; the reason you did not present a diff for this accusation is that you could not find a single instance of when I referred to you - or anyone else - as such.
- The last diff you offer is a statement to request a review of a block of a highly skilled editor. You were the one who submitted the 3RR complaint, so naturally, your motivations are going to come into question. As you have had some issues with assuming good faith, and had violated the Assumption of Good Faith to the point where I could not excuse bad conduct, the comment was warranted.
- (no Diff provided) "work to undo edits that that challenges [my] nationalist view". Did I say tht about you? Did I accuse you of posessing a "frail post-Persian psyche"? I think not, and your failure to provide a Diff indicating such means you know how weak that accusation is. I don't even know what nationality or ethnicity you are, and quite honestly don't care. To assume that I base my edits on ethnicity is ferociously bad faith, but as usual, I will fogive you your insult. If you didn't make mistakes, how would you ever learn?
- (again, no Diff provided) As for the "merry little band comment", that was intended for those editors who appeared to have almost extra-sensorally addressed and supported each other's edits, leading a great many editors to wonder if the effort was coordinated outside of normal channels say, by private email. I am not saying that this is necessarily true,Agha - I merely reflected upon what other editors had observed.
- Lastly, you yourself have admitted to following my edits around. You say you are making sure that my edits aren't tendentious (or some such thing), again an assumption of bad faith and a contentious remark. My properly identifying this behavior as stalking is an observation, not a contention.
So, all these bad faith edits you say I make about you, and all you have are three diffs? Please feel free to respond with better examples of how I have personally insulted you. Be advised, though, that when you do so, I will have prepared a fairly comprehensive list of your contentious, bad faith remarks. I am guessing my list will be somewhat longer than yours.
-Arcayne (cast a spell) 17:49, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
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- N.B. User Arcayne has changed the header of this section, even though I created it. The original header was "Stalking". Please see [4]. His edit summary was "May talk page - if I wish to change contentious edits, or headers, I will." This is another example of a adulteration of my edits. This is very misleading since I never accused him of stalking me, which the changed header "Who's Stalking Who?" implies. This is another bad faith edit. Agha Nader 19:28, 8 April 2007 (UTC)Agha Nader
- To quote imaginary character Inigo Montoya, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." You might want to revisit the article on bad faith edits. You come to my page, makes scads of either unsupported or nonexistent accusations, add a header called stalking, and expect me to simply expect me to accept its implied accusation? I think not. Now, I am going to politely ask to simply go away now. You've already had one RfC blow up in your face, and you are within a feltch-monkey's whisker of being on the recieving end of one yourself. Take the hint and kindly go find someone else to pester for mentoring. I think we're done here Arcayne (cast a spell) 21:56, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
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- User Arcayne asked "As well, if you could cite a Wikipedia policy that excuses stalking behavior under the pretense of monitoring so-called edits." This user should read WP:STALK. ArbCom decision referred to in WP:STALK states
- "It is not acceptable to stalk another editor who is editing in good faith. (Note that everyone is expected to assume good faith in the absence of definite evidence to the contrary.) Once an editor has given reason to suspect bad faith, monitoring is appropriate, but constantly nit-picking is always a violation of required courtesy."
- User Arcyane should stop accusing me of stalking. Agha Nader 04:15, 9 April 2007 (UTC)Agha Nader
[edit] Re: Getting It
Hmm. While I guess I can see how this might be considered uncivil, because it's an accusation, I'm not sure if this is really as bad. Also, in my experience, the one thing that makes a situation worse is when someone gives another user a standard template warning. It's best to express your concerns about their comments in your own words. About AFG: it's important that both parties always assume good faith. If I asked Mardavich to assume good faith towards you, I need that same promise from you as well. I noticed your comment here where you said That I don't automatically assume good faith with Mardavich is based upon my (and others') very similar experiences with him, wherein he has not bothered to demonstrate AGF even once. I think it's important to start trying again, if you don't want him to assume bad faith towards you. Khoikhoi 04:57, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- Mardavich was warned on several prior occasions about his lack of civility and accusations; he is more than aware of the rules of user conduct, having utilized them on many, many prior occasions. In fairness, my warnings to him of such prior to these current occurences were not as polite as they could have been, and I have not included them in these instances, save for the enduring impression that these prior actions leave me less likely to make the assumption of good faith of his edits. Please not that in my prior post to you (as now), I do not say that he won't get the assumption of good faith from me - he will, but will usually have to earn it with me, as I will be wary of his intentions. The lad did file a baseless RfC against myself and several other editors, after all. Getting over that particular hump is going to take work, and not just on my part.
- I thank you for taking the time to address the situation with Mardavich. I am curious as to when your admonition of his bahavior might show up on his Talk page. Something like that shouldn't really be limited to private yahoo email - indicating a non-partisan relationship and all. Using private email to voice complaints to admins and the like is often perceived as a conspiratorial sort of behavior, and not really in keeping with the open policy of WP. -Arcayne (cast a spell) 16:52, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
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- Arcayne, I'm not going to give him a warning on his talk page until you look into your own actions. Comments like your self-worth as a country bad enough, your problems likely run deeper than nuclear instpections and snagging up Brits are not only inappropriate, but also offensive as well. Ditto for And do I think some of the vandalizing editors and the POV-pushing editors were posting to simply make themselves feel better, ergo the mommy comment. If you think he needs to earn AFG from you, please consider looking at things form a different perspective. Khoikhoi 05:00, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Your edits to Talk:300 (film)
- There are many job opportunities in the US and A. For men, construction worker, taxi driver or accountant. For woman, prostitute. What is this word block, I not understand your. Yes I like a Maria very much, She like Stalin, she no like you she will crush you! Manic Hispanic 18:50, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- Um, okay. I wouldn't really throw comparisons to Stalin around like that, as people might take offense - something I've already commented about on your discussion page. Persoanlly, I've found that once you prove yourself to Maria, she is very helpful. You might want to make that effort. As for what Blocking is, I am surprised it has not come up even once in the 5 months you have been editing. Follow the link I have provided. Good day to you. Arcayne (cast a spell) 19:06, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- Aww, it would seem I hit a nerve! Or pride. You know, something. Now if you boys would excuse me, I've gotta go turn my red light on... ;) María (habla conmigo) 19:48, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- And remember, one light is illumination, while a million lights is a statistic. :P Arcayne (cast a spell) 21:43, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- What wrong with Stalin? He communist legend. He save jew from destruction, and kill many Nazis on way. Very Nice if you ask me. You liberal. He one of you, no? Gulag shmulag! Manic Hispanic 23:03, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- Um, okay. I appreciate your very interesting worldview, as I hadn't experienced a belief system like that outside of a history book. However, I am going to simply wish you adieu, so you can be on your way. I think you experiences here are going to be rather exciting for a time. Arcayne (cast a spell) 00:59, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
I see that you're meeting some very interesting characters through your interactions. Hope you're playing nicely with others these days... —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 23:07, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- Lol, well you are certainly free to look at my recent contributions and see for yourself - all my recent fans seem to be doing just that. :) Arcayne (cast a spell) 00:56, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Me, Boradis and Deckiller have done some rewitting and tweaks here and there, I personally fixed the worries that you expesed on the FAC and the Gameplay was rewritten heavily so I think that most of your worries have been taken care of, if I'm wrong feel free to comment any other worries, Peace. -凶 23:14, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] oh yeah
VERY. ;-) Tomertalk 23:31, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
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