Template talk:Archive box

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Contents 1 Alignment 2 Merge proposal 3 Icon 4 New image?

[edit] Alignment

Is there a way to make this appear next to the table of contents rather than below it for pages that are wide enough to display both side-by-side? Specifically, I'm wondering about my talk page. BigNate37_(T) 21:10, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes. Either delete the "__TOC__" or put it below the infobox. The infobox is floated with "float: right". --Swift 18:47, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Awesome, putting __TOC__ below the archive box did it, thanks! BigNate37_(T) 19:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge proposal

I suggest that Template:Archivebox be merged with this template. The former currently contains an archive link example which makes it necessary to substitute the template. It, furthermore, presupposes that the archive is made according to date &mdash not topic. Finally, by forcing a substitution, changes to the template will not affect old template boxes and if consistancy is to be maintained, updates must be made by hand.

I neither see the need nor great benefit for the added functionality that Archivebox has over Archive_box and suggest that we deprecate the former in favour of the latter. --Swift 01:35, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

:Seems wise. It's rather convenient that Archivebox must be substituted, so there are no inclusions to be fixed before merging. Will do. -- Visviva 05:07, 28 November 2006 (UTC) Actually I see the other version has some defenders, although I'm durned if I can figure out why. No harm in having both, I guess. -- Visviva 05:11, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

It's been merged, {{archivebox}} now redirects here – Gurch 20:00, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Icon

Can we start a discussion on which icon works best? The contenders so far are:

Vista-file-manager.png	Crystal Clear app file-manager.png	system-file-manager.svg	Icon_file_cabinet.png
File-manager.svg	File.svg

Or we could move away from the filing cabinet concept (yes, I know, file-manager.svg is more like a safe). --Random832(tc) 21:55, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Archives are usually kept in boxes rather than filing cabinets aren't they? See here for an example of what I am talking about. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 19:43, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Do we have any icons of one of those? That would be ideal IMO. As it is, all of Vista-file-manager, Crystal Clear app file-manager, and Icon file cabinet are in active use in various templates. Note I have expanded the scope of this discussion to all of these.--Random832(tc) 17:57, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

You're drowning in a glass of water...Why don't we just keep the icon??? ~~ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Armando12 (talk • contribs) 04:18, 18 February 2007 (UTC).

It's been changed twice on this template. Also, there are several archive icons used across different archive templates and i think it would be better to have a single default. --Random832 14:27, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

What template does not use Vista-file-manager.png ? —Centrx→talk • 15:33, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Template:Archives uses the crystal clear icon. Icon file cabinet.png is used in Template:Afd-privacy. --Random832 13:40, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Because, the current icon is in PNG format — doesn't scale very well. An SVG format icon would be heaps better to use. — JeremyTalk 02:38, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

• Prefer File.svg, otherwise Vista-file-manager.png. Regards, David Kernow (talk) 12:50, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New image?

I'd rather have Vista-file-manager.png, however as of today another image has appeared that I don't see here and that doesn't look clear. And I also wouldn't like an icon with lots of boxes, even if it was clear. The drawer thing is quite established for what it symbolizes. For myself, instead of reverting here, I will replace the template with its code containing the 1st icon in my talk page. Hoverfish Talk 08:01, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

The photo that replaced the file cabinet icon looks like nothing more than a brownish white grid on most pages. Are there copyright issues with using one of the icons above? For something that's usually always small or icon-sized I think it would make sense to go back to one of those earlier choices. Robotman¹⁹⁷⁴ 09:46, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes I must agree that the new image looks poor. Hard to make out what it means. I would prefer it as it was but appreciate if there was good reasons for the change, i.e copyright issues or whatever. The previous image was Image:Vista-file-manager.png, what is the issue regarding using this? Adambro 11:17, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

From what I see, it is under GNU General Public License with no mention of any restrictions... Hoverfish Talk 13:55, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I changed it back - GPL is a free license, and the picture that was there before doesn't work that small. --Transfinite 18:44, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

It was presumably changed due to WP:AN#Possible serious copyright/policy violation. --Random832 19:26, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I have replaced the Crystal Clear icon with one I drew myself. It's very like the old Vista-file-manager image, but no part of it is derivative of the Vista image, or of File.svg. I'm kind of used to a brown filing cabinet icon, but (as always) you know how to revert if you prefer the, um, very blue Crystal icon. Thanks. — mholland 23:00, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I've made a new icon for this template. It combines features of the other icons and looks quite nice.

Hope you enjoy it! ~~Eugene2x ^{Sign here} ☺ ~~ 19:27, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose ;) too big, and too "cartoony" --Steve _(Slf67) ^talk 23:29, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

• Strong Oppose and Revert to this version before people started toying with it. Image:Crystal Clear app file-manager.png is fine, fucking leave it until theres a final word on this "copyright violation" shit. --Reaper X 02:21, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose. The color is so garish that I was compelled to come to this talk page and moan about it. =P The archive box is distracting now, while it needs to be visually out of the way unless one is looking for it. The previous image was fine. The illustration on this is fine too; I don't object to a recoloring to tone it down, but can we revert in the meantime? — coelacan — 02:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I'm going to revert it per my suggestion cause Image:Vista-file-manager.png is up at WP:AN#Possible serious copyright/policy violation, and Image:Crystal Clear app file-manager.png was suggested to be a good substitute in the meantime. AND, people are whining about the cartoony gold cabinet. Sorry Eugene, no offence, people just don't like fancy archives. --Reaper X 03:07, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

• Support if Image:Vista-file-manager.png can't be used. I personally think this looks better than Image:Crystal Clear app file-manager.png. Robotman¹⁹⁷⁴ 03:15, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

• Strong Oppose. Colour is a bit off, and it is not in SVG format. — JeremyTalk 02:41, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

• Why a strong oppose just because of color issues? Plus, "not in SVG format" sounds like a poor excuse. ~~Eugene2x ^{Sign here} ☺ ~~ 04:52, 22 March 2007 (UTC)