Talk:Antonio "Kitín" Muñoz Valcárcel
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I will try to fix the article to bring it up to standard (or closer at least)--SVTCobra 23:12, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Comments about my rewrite
- It is possible this should moved to Kitín Muñoz due to Iberian naming customs
- The UNESCO website has him born in Spain - but I think they are wrong
- It probably needs more categories
- I wrote that one source has him as culture minister because I only saw it on royalty discussion board
--SVTCobra 01:25, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
By User:83.33.214.98: Estafador y falso aventurero que se ha hecho un nombre a base de sacar dinero a compañías como Iberia, levis y demás. Tampoco es universitario y jamás ha pisado un aula. Se hace llamar antropólogo, etnólogo cuando no ha estudiado ni una cosa ni la otra. Sus barcos se hunden todos.
Un amigo mío lo conoce y dice que es un aventurero de papel. Nunca ha demostrado nada serio. Sus experimentos sólo le han valido para coger dinero de grandes empresas. Trata muy mal a los hombres que navegan con él. No habla con ninguno de los que le ayudaron en la URU y los de la MataRangi le pusuieron un pleito laboral en los tribunales de Barcelona que llegaron a ganar. A los tres pascuenses no les había pagado un duro. menos UNESCO y más pagar tus deudas que según dicen por Barcelona dejastes muchas. Este señor es un absoluto impresentable.
What follows is a translation of the above. I am not related to the Spanish user. I am just translating his words.
A friend of mine knows him and says he is a 'paper' adventurer. He has never proved anything serious. His experiments have only aided him in getting money from big companies. He ill-treats his fellow navigators. He never talks about anybody who helped him in the URU and those from the Mata Rangi expedition successfully sued him for labor reasons before the Barcelona courts. He never paid a cent to the three from Easter Island [who helped him in the expedition]. Forget UNESCO and take care of your debts. According to sources in Barcelona you left quite a lot unpaid. This man is unpresentable.
- I see that this text is already on the talk page. It doesn't sound too happy about Valcárcel, but I'll leave it to someone fluent to translate it (if appropriate). Sliggy 20:11, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] He has never been Culture Minister
What does the sentence 'One source suggests he was once Culture Minister in Spain.' mean?
Either he was or he wasn't and he has never been a Minister of anything official.
- It means that one site that spoke of the wedding (a gossip site) said he had been Culture Minister of Spain. However, I could not find any source confirming or refuting this. Wikipedia's own pages of the Council of Ministers of Spain only contain the most recent cabinet. I do not know enough Spanish to search the relevent government websites, and had hoped that someone else would do so and clear up the matter. I agree it is a yes/no question, which by now, I thought would have been fixed by the wikipedian community.--SVTCobra 23:53, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Never been culture minister
Though this is the basis of the Wikipedia philosophy, I am not confortable deleting paragraphs from a Wikipedia article. However, I am Spanish and I am positive he's never been Culture Minister. In Spain, this man is mainly known (and not widely known, anyway) for his relation with Simeon of Bulgaria and his circle while the former king was in exile in Spain (eventually becoming his son-in-law).
His status as UNESCO Good-will ambassador might have caused the confusion.
I think that citing a rumour or an unknown source as the authority for a fact that can positively be verified is not appropriate for an encyclopedia. That sentence should be deleted.
- Because of the poor quality of the source, I was careful to include it in the vaguest fashion, making sure not to state it as fact. However, given your insight, I will remove the offending sentence.--SVTCobra 23:59, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
