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1 Bechamp
2 Pleomorphists and Pleomorphism
3 Books: ISBN needed
4 Once upon a time, when we thought the world was flat...
5 which bits?
6 Why delete some bibliography

[edit] Bechamp

I think that the paragraph in the Introduction section which begins "people follow bechamp ..." is extremely biased. Could it be changed / removed? User:ickleshellybear 17:01, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

If it was there it could be, but it does not appear to be there, nor to have been removed. Further and better details needed. Midgley 16:12, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Here is the paragraph I was refering to: "Latterly, Bechamp's name and work have been misused by multi-level marketers and anti-vaccinationists in efforts to construct plausible-sounding alternatives to current scientific theory and reality which would allow their financial or meta-medical schemes to be possible of effectiveness."

User:ickleshellybear 11.22, 03 May 2006

Welcome to Wikipedia Ickleshellybear Contribs. Other things than bias may be better to look at there. It might be worth looking for some other items in WP that interest you, and considering whether any of them could be improved. There is no rule against having only one interest, but it doesn't tend to substantiate remarks about something being biased. Midgley 00:58, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't quite understand. Are you saying observations and remarks on wikipedia are weighted by the quantity of the author's past contributions? If so, I don't see what your comment has brought to the discussion, how it helps Ickleshellybear, or indeed how it encourages him (or her) to make any more contributions to Wikipedia. If you don't agree with Ickleshellybear, isn't it customary to say: "No, I don't agree with that because ..."? --Splidje 16:39, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Is it Bechamp or Béchamp? <K F> 14:07, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pleomorphists and Pleomorphism

Wilhelm Riech had some wacky ideas about bacteria, but I didn't see pleomorphism in that article.

Is it possible that this is actually the beginning of an article about pleomorphism, since there isn't one yet, mentioning somehting about Bechamp as a guy who thoguht it up, and telling us whether he died still thinking it?

At that, it looks like a footnote or box for Microbiology "abandoned incorrect theories" or "people offering different ideas at the time pasteur sorted it out" perhaps, rather than a set of biographies. DId anyone do anything becuase of this theory, or not do anything, and did it kill many people or did they just die anyway? Or was it just talk?

Midgley 12:19, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Books: ISBN needed

The reference to the Australian anti-vaccinationist is interesting - does the book really indicate that he is a practicing doctor doing aboriginal healthcare who doesn't believe that antibiotics are useful because he doesn't believe bacteria cause disease? Risky thing to say about most doctors, unless it was true. Midgley 12:22, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Once upon a time, when we thought the world was flat...

but actually this turns out to be an underpinning for some fringe stories about the world (their proponents and I would be as one in not describing them as "theories" but for different reasons.) And here is a refernece: http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/eletters/311/7008/811/b

Definitely, a box. (Or perhaps the odd bit of actual biography...)

[edit] which bits?

"much of what Pasteur had postulated were derived from the work and publications of Bechamp."

Science does work by people building upon each other's work, but I suspect this is an attempt to provide support for assorted odd theories by making out, as anti-vaccinationists and otehr fringe theorists tend to, that the people credited with discoveries were despicable. Midgley 09:40, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

For an historical view of work of Bechamp, see article about Bechamp in french site on wikipedia. Pasteur took many ideas from Bechamp. Al7 17:41, 12 December 2006 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.65.148.88 (talk) 16:20, 12 December 2006 (UTC).