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Military history WikiProject Newsletter, Issue I

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter
Issue I - March 2006
Project news
From the Coordinators

Welcome to the inaugural issue of the Military history WikiProject's newsletter! We hope that this new format will help members—especially those who may be unable to keep up with some of the rapid developments that tend to occur—find new groups and programs within the project that they may wish to participate in.

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delivered by Loopy e 04:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Very nice article Battle of Vaslui

Let me know when you submit it again for featured status. I'd like to support. Dpotop 12:57, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

thx. it needs more work, but if i decide to submit it again, i'll let u know. --Candide, or Optimism 14:26, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Romanians

Salut! Cred ca ai vazut si tu ce face idiotu' ala de Jayig la articolul despre Romanians, la sectiunea Canada. Inca n-am vazut la nici un articol pe site-u' asta asa ceva, sa fie scris numarul de persoane cu single sau mixed origin. Am incercat sa-l opreasc sa faca asta, da ma blocat un administrator care cred ca tine cu iel. Trebe sa punem inapoi cum a fost acolo, adica 131,000 off. - 400,000 est. Tu ce zici de asta? Salutari, NorbertArthur 31 Martie 2006

Nu vreau sa ma implic in ceva unde nu am habar. Daca sunt de "mixed origin", sunt de mixed origin. Ce e de facut? --Candide, or Optimism 00:49, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Pai chestia e ca au modificat intelegerea noastra care am facut acolo, adica sa lasam numarul oficial de 131,000 si sa punem estimarea de 400,000, dar el a modificat-o dupa stilul lui bun de nimic. Cand am modificat pagina cum a fost inainte, am fost blocat de un administrator. Adica vreau sa zic ca pur si simplu nu ne pasa daca sunt de mixed sau single origin, vrem numarul "intreg", cum tot cuprins, ca si cum am facut la USA. Cred ca ar trebui sa contactez mai multi administratori romani, pt ca ala care ma blocat a scris ca daca mai modifica cineva pagina aia il blocheaza. Toate cele bune, NorbertArthur 1 Aprilie 2006

Personal attacks

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy: There is no excuse for personal attacks on other contributors. Do not make them. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that you may be blocked for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thanks. --Khoikhoi 04:59, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

LOL! All admins smoke pot. --Candide, or Optimism 05:40, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Indeed. --Khoikhoi 05:41, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
I don't know what you're talking about. --Candide, or Optimism 05:55, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm talking about this and this. You were warned about this before. [1] Please don't do it again. --Khoikhoi 06:01, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
I don't know what you're talking about. I've expressed excitement that summer is on its way. I have the right to do so. Now, I don't know if you're an admin, but I suggest you relax. I checked your userpage and I read the rule of "don't be a dick". I know of someone else who would like to read that. ;)))))))))) ;))))))))) --Candide, or Optimism 06:05, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
I'll relax as soon as you stop harassing Node ue. Consider this a warning. --Khoikhoi 06:31, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Anittas's personal attacks against Node ue are not acceptable. Two requests for comment, Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Anittas and Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Anittas 2, seem to have not had the effect of convincing Anittas to stop that. Hereby I block Anittas for 12 hours. This is not a punishment, rather, a measure of last resort. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 06:57, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

The only things not acceptable are you and the rest of those useless housewives that only wait to have an excuse to act and provoke. You're right about one thing: I've learned nothing from you because there's nothing to learn, except that you're a scumbag. Block me for 12-hours, 12 days, or block me permanently. At the end of the day, you and you're housewives are a bunch of pussies — and in your case — also a toolabuser. --Candide, or Optimism 15:26, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Fixed archive link

Just letting you know I fixed a typo in the archive 5 link. TimBentley (talk) 17:46, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Thx, it's the second time I make that error. :) --Candide, or Optimism 18:21, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Să-ţi fie ruşine măi

Ce e asta? Nu cred că procedezi bine. Dacă ai fi român nu ai accepta separarea dintre moldoveni şi români. O să dau înpoi textul. --Iasi 08:22, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Nu mie sa-mi fie rusine, ci la basarabeni. --Candide, or Optimism 11:10, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Atunci nu mai da textul înpoi.06:15, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

The Night Attack

Hi Anittas! Congratulations on the The Night Attack article! It's comprehensive, well-referenced and another great example for Romanian battles. Thanks, Ronline ✉ 10:52, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Thx. I'm not proud of that victory, but I felt it was notable enough to have an article of its own. I will further update the article with new info and sources. --Candide, or Optimism 11:32, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Jews of Spain

When the Jews of Spain were forced to leave Spain, they promised they would never return. What exactly did they say? Did they make a powerful statement? I'm thinking something inlines like the Greek oxi, tho that's a totally different scenario. Thx. --Candide, or Optimism 06:45, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

I have no idea; I'm not even sure how one can say than an entire people "makes a promise", or whether a (possibly extorted) promise should be given any weight (especially any notion of a promise that, to be meaningful, would have to pass down the generations in a people who were, after all, being dispersed at that very moment). Keep in mind that there were an enormous number of false conversions: see Marranos. - Jmabel | Talk 15:20, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Vlachs of Serbia

Does romanians from Serbia (Vlachs of Serbia) have the right to say what kind of language do they speak or not? Panon is reverting our edits. --Andrei George 16:20, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

The Serbs count the Romanians from the Timok Valley as Vlachs. --Candide, or Optimism 23:22, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
But they say that they are not romanians. --Andrei George 07:47, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I know. If they don't allow them to have their own church in Romanian, then I doubt they will let you include them in the statistics. Many of them are Serbisized. Nothing one can do. --Candide, or Optimism 09:33, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Acum. --Andrei George 10:14, 24 April 2006 (UTC)


Candide, are you a Moldovan? --Andrei George 20:43, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Anittas, mari porci mai sunt ruşii ăştia...nişte porculeţi --12.4.27.44 08:07, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

DYK

Updated DYK query Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article The Night Attack, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Cactus.man ✍ 00:21, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Anittas, the template may be updated every six hours. In reality, the frequency of updates depends on the number of nominations on DYK talk page and on the activity of updating admins. So you can never tall how long your article will be exposed on the Main Page. --Ghirla -трёп- 15:02, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the main updating admin has been on vacations and the template has been updated very irregularly these days. Last week, the template wouldn't be updated for a day or more, which led to the nomination page becoming quite a backlog, with some nominations going stale. Therefore, I asked Cactus.man to make an update yesterday evening, in order to save your own nominations from being discarded as too stale. Today, the regularly updating admin finally appeared and, deciding that your and other articles had had sufficient exposure on the Main Page, updated it. As his update came after six hours after the previous one, his actions were perfectly legitimate. --Ghirla -трёп- 15:02, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I saw that; thanks :p I thought that every DYK update would last for 24 hours, as it is with FA. That's why I asked. Thanks for replying. --Candide, or Optimism 16:37, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject Newsletter - Issue II

The April 2006 issue of the project newsletter is now out. You may read this issue or change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you by following the link. Thanks. Kirill Lokshin 18:25, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Deng

Anittas, that issue with Deng is long since resolved. Check timing of the odler messages. Why wag the old dogs. Please self-revert your message. Woohokitty has unblocked Deng as per requests of several people, myself included. --Irpen 09:08, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

But the discussion continued. I just saw you posting on her talkpage. And this is not the first time that admin makes such decissions. She also said that she stands by her block. If she stays by her block, then I would like to know where that user attacked. But okay, I'll rv my message. --Candide, or Optimism 09:19, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Anittas, I am actually glad to see that there is less tolerance in Wikipedia nowadays than it used to be towards the badmoutning. I don't know either whether Deng was particularly bad although he is sort of a short-tempered guy. But since it was Woohokitty I had past discussions with on the issue, I contacted him because here we have an extreme case of a really filthy mouth. Let me just add in the end that I am glad that you and I are talking civilly. I think you were somehwat radicalized by Bonny in the past and with his influence fading away (except occasional sock outbursts) we should just work together fine, shouldn't we? And thanks for the Zawichost article. I am glad you liked my expansion. See you around. --Irpen 16:40, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject Newsletter - Issue III - May 2006

The May 2006 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. —ERcheck @ 11:36, 25 May 2006 (UTC)


Donation without receipt

I, for one, am not concerned about the receipt, I'm sure the donation went to the correct place, which is what matters. Thanks for following through on this, I feel amply compensated. - Jmabel | Talk 15:51, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

name change

I suggest you a more proper name:

Preacher, or Princelet

How about it? --Vlachul 20:42, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Lol. The second one would fit in a tragic way. Still, you can't remove 90-percent of an article. --Candide, or Optimism 20:58, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Why haven't you change your name yet?--Vlachul 13:26, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Don't change it, I will use it. --Preacher, or Princelet 13:28, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Vlad III Dracula

Please don't restore the unsourced information, as is clear on the WP:ANI page, your repeated non-sourcing is not supported. If you want to add a source to the page, then there will be no further need for me to remove the information again. User:Zoe|(talk) 17:25, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

There are two sources in the reference section, as was said on ANI. --Candide, or Optimism 20:55, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
The reference you gave at WP:ANI does not match the information listed here in references, and the references are to the entire article, it is not clear where the information comes from. Why is it so difficult to add ONE link to the section? This will satisfy the problem. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:13, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Yes, the references are for the entire article and it is not clear which of those references cover the anecdotes. But, they don't have to. Show me where it says we have to source each piece to a reference. All we need to do is add a reference that covers a part of the text in the article. That's all we need to do. --Candide, or Optimism 21:27, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
WP:V#Burden_of_evidence. So now you're saying you don't know where the supporting documentation comes from? That proves the information needs to go. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:38, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that we don't have to attach a footnote to indicate what statement belong to what source. --Candide, or Optimism 21:39, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
There's more to this than just whether your contributions are sourced or not. Simply adding giant text dumps to articles is usually considered vandalism. --InShaneee 21:46, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't know. Can you show me where it says this? And should that be defined as "giant text dumps"? --Candide, or Optimism 21:48, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
It's the simplest definition. --InShaneee 21:48, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

WP:POINT

Regarding this edit: Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --InShaneee 21:48, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --InShaneee 21:49, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

According to messages on ANI from admins, etc., anyone can remove anything that is unreferenced and unsourced at any time. Is this not true? --Candide, or Optimism 21:50, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Not without a discussion first. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:51, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
And do try reading WP:POINT. --InShaneee 21:51, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Oh, really? Maybe you're right. Okay, I will then discuss it first. --Candide, or Optimism 21:52, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

This is what you, Inshaneee, said:

WP:V NOTHING unreferenced can stay, for ANY reason. Period. --InShaneee 21:28, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Are those your words; and do they apply to everything? You said tha "nothing unreferenced can stay, for any reason. Period." Is what you said true? --Candide, or Optimism 21:55, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

An sich

  1. Please read WP:POINT and don't do such things again.
  2. Dracula was reverted because our favorite troll Bonaparte (or may be not, but feels like his twin) was stealing (sorry, violating the copyright) by his favorite cut and paste action. `'mikka (t) 22:22, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

WP Point is a guideline, not a policy. WP:V, however, is policy. Please read it and don't do such things. --Candide, or Optimism 22:23, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

before the discussion goes further, please answer: are you going to work on wikipedia or pick battles? `'mikka (t) 22:30, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
I didn't pick this battle, but I may fight it. --Candide, or Optimism 22:31, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
So, what exactly battle do we have here? `'mikka (t) 22:48, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure. I didn't start it. Ask those who started it. At least I was involved in the article conflict, but what's your excuse? LOL! --Candide, or Optimism 22:50, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Last warning

Continued disruption will lead to your being blocked for a while. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:34, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm not disrupting. --Candide, or Optimism 22:35, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Blocked

Why was I blocked? I asked questions on ANI about the policy for sources. Am I not allowed to do so? I have been civil the whole time. --Candide, or Optimism 23:06, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Up to your old tricks again, I see - including the delightfully fake pretence at innocence. It doesn't wash. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 23:18, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't know who you are, but I'm guessing that you don't know either. --Candide, or Optimism 23:22, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Morven is a member of the arbitration committee. User:Zoe|(talk) 23:46, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
That tells me nothing. I don't know this person; I don't remember interacting with him. It worries me that he's part of Arbcom. How can he, who is a part of Arbcom, come here and mock me when he never spoke to me before? How can he judge the situation before investigating the matter? This is another example of how corrupt Wikipedia is. --Candide, or Optimism 12:47, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
I tried to tell you before you were blocked, but now that you can't edit, now is the PERFECT opportunity to take a good read of WP:POINT. --InShaneee 23:41, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
I can still edit this page. What were you trying to tell me? And why was I blocked? And wasn't Zoe involved in the dispute? Why did they then block me? --Candide, or Optimism 23:43, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
All those answers are in the link I just provided. --InShaneee 23:44, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
I was blocked when asking questions on ANI. How does that relate to your link? --Candide, or Optimism 23:47, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I've removed your unblock request as it was in bad faith. Please do not add it back or you will lose the privelege of editing your talk page. AmiDaniel (talk) 05:19, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

The long-term users deserve a minimal courtesy of explanation of reasons of blocking. I can name a handful of objective reasons besides normal civility. I unblocked the user, because what I see here is not an example of "good faith". Please don't forget that this is not only between you and Anittas. A third party may see this exchange as really weird. `'mikka (t) 00:28, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. --Candide, or Optimism 12:47, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Have you learned nothing from the Linuxbeak debacle? Do not unblock a user without prior discussion, this is official policy. I will revert the unblocking, and hope you will not wheel war. User:Zoe|(talk) 01:40, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
On second though, no I won't since the block was about to expire anyway. But I will reblock if Anittas continues his trolling. User:Zoe|(talk) 01:41, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
You and your friend were the one who trolled. You should be permanently banned from Wikipedia. You don't even contribute to articles. Your entire talkpage is about people who complain about you removing material from other articles. --Candide, or Optimism 12:47, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

-- Malber (talk • contribs) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk pages. Happy editing!

Civility

Regarding this edit: Please do not make personal attacks on other people. Wikipedia has a policy against personal attacks. In some cases, users who engage in personal attacks may be blocked from editing by admins or banned by the arbitration committee. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Please resolve disputes appropriately. Thank you. --InShaneee 22:06, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

No attack - just an observation. I will retreat my statement if you show me an article started and worked by Zoe, and that is considered a Good Article or at least B-standard article. They've been a member of Wiki since 2001. They should have FA-standard articles by now. Where are they? --Candide, or Optimism 04:18, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Regarding this edit:

This is your last warning. If you continue to make personal attacks, you may be blocked for disruption. --InShaneee 23:05, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Personal attack against whom? --Candide, or Optimism 23:28, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Doesn't matter who. The point is that your history shows that you are prone to making those kinds of attacks, and they will not be tolerated. --InShaneee 23:37, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Sure it matters; elsewise it's not a personal attack. --Candide, or Optimism 23:47, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
No, it doesn't. If you were to jump into a discussion and say "Someone on this page is a (any insult, take your pick), and I think we all know who", even if no one knew who, it's still an attack. --InShaneee 23:49, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps, but I gave no hints on whom I may, or may not speak about. It could be anyone. It could be me I was talking about; or someone outside Wikipedia. Also, what makes you think it was a personal attack? Calling someone gay is not always an insult. --Candide, or Optimism 23:52, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Anittas, please calm down and have a cup of WP:TEA. I was pleased to observe that following the Bonny's departure, your attitude and contributions have improved (and I think your recent block was unfair while still provoked). So, take a break and come back tomorrow with a new article, or two or a dozen. --Irpen 23:59, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Will do. See you on Sunday. Thx. --Candide, or Optimism 00:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

GDP

Hehe, I was thinking the same thing myself. Jayjg will be able to confirm it, I'll ask him. —Khoikhoi 15:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Your archive is here dude: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Romanian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board/Archive4 --GDP 16:24, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

You don't archive a one-day old discussion! --Candide, or Optimism 16:25, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Mind your gays, I've made it because it was long enough all the page. --GDP 16:27, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Pleaca de aici, om nebun ce esti! --Candide, or Optimism 16:27, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule on a page. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from further editing. -- getcrunkjuicecontribs 16:28, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

I answered on my talk page. Anyway, I don't understand why can I not make an archive and you revert me? --GDP 16:31, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

I have posted this issue at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR#User:GDP reported by User:Getcrunk. -- getcrunkjuicecontribs 16:40, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Ce so întâmplat bai sugaci de pule, futeţai neamu-n gurǎ sǎţi fuţi. Ce futaiu mǎtii iţi tot bagi pula-n pizda unde nu-ti fierbe oala? Lasa-l ma pe GPD in pace daca nu tie fute soarele. Fii atent ce mai faci ca-ti trag pula-n gura de uiti cine tio futut azi-dimineata.

Asculta aici, domnul Ardelean inferior, nu am fost eu acela care mi-am bagat pula unde nu-mi fierbe oala. --Candide, or Optimism 16:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

You deserved that Anittas. I will not start an RfC against you if you calm down and restore my archives now! Peace. GDP 16:55, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Poponarul tau de prieten nu ma impresioneaza. --Candide, or Optimism 16:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Compare the above comment to this one. ;) —Khoikhoi 16:59, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
No need. I knew it was him when I saw the picture on his userpage of GDP for every country. He has a fixation on the amount of money Romanians make and he brags that they make more than Bulgarians. He was also online on Illyria forum. --Candide, or Optimism 17:01, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
LOL, "Bonaparte der Kaiser"? —Khoikhoi 17:10, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
I suggest Anittas to drop it with this kind of insults. It won't bring you credibility. GDP 17:00, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Regarding edit summaries such as this one:

This is your last warning. If you continue to make personal attacks, you may be blocked for disruption. This includes personal attacks in other languages such as you have done here. --InShaneee 18:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

I ask you to leave me alone and not post on my talkpage anymore. I do not like you and I feel provoked by you. I also feel stalked by you, as you keep track of everything I do. This, to me, is harassment. At least two other admins are already involved in this dispute and none of them asked for your assistance. Again: I kindly ask you to leave me alone and not stalk me. Thank you. --Candide, or Optimism 18:17, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

I was replying to Bonny's friend:

Ce so întâmplat bai sugaci de pule, futeţai neamu-n gurǎ sǎţi fuţi. Ce futaiu mǎtii iţi tot bagi pula-n pizda unde nu-ti fierbe oala? Lasa-l ma pe GPD in pace daca nu tie fute soarele. Fii atent ce mai faci ca-ti trag pula-n gura de uiti cine tio futut azi-dimineata.

A quick translation: What has happened, you sucker of dicks, fuck your relative's mouth. Why in the name of your fucking mother do you penetrate your dick in the vagina that does not belong to you? Leave GDP alone (...cannot translate). Beware what you do, or I'll put my dick in your mouth in such a way that you'll forget who fucked you this morning. --Candide, or Optimism 18:22, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

You should retract all, or you'll be blocked. You said it long before my friend told you something. --GDP 18:32, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Retract what? It is official that you are a vandal and a sockpuppet. Arbcom decided this and banned you. Can it be more official than this? --Candide, or Optimism 19:05, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Alright, first of all: Anittas, you're going to have to put up with me until you can start following policy, simple as that. If that makes you uncomfortable, then I suggest you start treating other users with more respect as soon as possible. Secondly, to both of you, there is NEVER an excuse for making a personal attack, and that includes retaliation. If you can point me to the user who made the above comment, I will be more than happy to deal with him. Finally, again to both of you, post in english whenever possible. This is the English wikipedia, and thusly will allow for more openess and review of your posts. --InShaneee 18:43, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Why can I not make an archive? Tell me. I was reverted quickly. GDP 18:45, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Because it was a current or recent discussion. Attempting to remove recently posted comments from a talk page is vandalism. --InShaneee 18:48, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
I was editing for the first time there. I've made an archive, nothing was lost there, I didn't remove anything. So, why vandalism? GDP 18:51, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Because even if it's being put somewhere else, it's still removing an active discussion. --InShaneee 18:55, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
It's very true that I've noticed only the size of the page, which in my opinion is huge enough to take the decision to make an archive. I haven't look more deeper at the on-going discussions.GDP 18:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
This is something important. Make sure to look more closely at this in the future. --InShaneee 18:59, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
In the same time I would like to ask you to make things now better. You have the possibility to constrain him to act more civil. Do something now, before is too late. GDP 19:00, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

ROFL! Bonny, Bonny; you and your sense of humour. --Candide, or Optimism 19:04, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Here you make again, you haven't learned anything from this? GDP 19:06, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm not going to warn you to assume good faith and not to make accusations again. Anittas, this is your last warning. Do NOT continue to be incivil towords this user. --InShaneee 19:05, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
What are you talking about? It's Bonny. If it's proven that it's not, I'll retract my words. He's been doing this for months and the admins that are actively involved in the conflict ban him on sight. AGF is not a policy, therefore, I don't have to assume good faith. Mind you, I was the one who defended Bonny the most; but everything has a limit. --Candide, or Optimism 19:08, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
That's not how this works. If there's no proof that this is Bonaparte (which there currently isn't), you can't go around making those accusations. No, AGF isn't a policy, but WP:CIVIL is, and if you continue to be disrespectful towards this user, you will be blocked. --InShaneee 19:10, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
He wants to diminish my credibility for making an archive.GDP 19:11, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
And the same goes for you. Be respectful, or you will be blocked. --InShaneee 19:14, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
I just want that my credibility to be repaired. I want him to appologize for being rude and speaking in bad faith, and of course for his curses. I will be satisfied and I will forgive him afterwards. GDP 19:15, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
The only thing that damaged your credibility is your continued unwillingness to be respectful. He is under no obligation to apologize, nor should you be demanding that he do. --InShaneee 19:19, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Bonny

An open proxy just reverted me on Romania. Can you help out? I just listed it on WP:RPP. —Khoikhoi 19:26, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

User notice: temporary 3RR block

Regarding reversions[2] made on June 3, 2006 (UTC) to Wikipedia:Romanian Wikipedians' notice board

 You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future.
The duration of the block is 12 hours. William M. Connolley 21:55, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Dude, I reverted vandalism. I thought anyone could revert vandalism as many times as they wanted. It wasn't a content controversary. Further more, we believe the person in question is the banned User:Bonaparte. See here. --Candide, or Optimism 22:02, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Having taken advice, I agree, and will unblock you. Apologies William M. Connolley 22:21, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, no problem. Thanks. --Candide, or Optimism 22:23, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Eat shit from Node ue

Node

I don't really care what ethnicity he is. I'm Jewish too, and part of my family is from Transylvania (Sălaj and Maramureş) so I guess that puts me at an all-time low. :p But seriously, all I want is that Bonaparte will perhaps someday get up from his computer, and actually do what he claims he says he's doing, which is studying for his PhD. Maybe then he'll be able to understand where other people are coming from instead of following his own naive views. Pe curând. —Khoikhoi 20:04, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Actually I'm jewish too. But node is not, or at least he's just a part of it. Pe curând. Once you said that you're hungarian Khoikhoi/Hottentot. --141.14.139.166 20:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm not Hungarian. My great-grandfather spoke Hungarian, but he was also fluent in Romanian (as well as German, English, and Spanish). —Khoikhoi 20:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
I don't mind Jews, but one cannot claim to be something and then spit on it. There are many Jews that consider themselves Romanian, or have contributed for Ro, and we're proud of them. See Tristan Tzara.--Candide, or Optimism 20:17, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
...or my distant cousin Ernie Grunfeld. ;) —Khoikhoi 20:20, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Is Node really a Moldovan (or of Moldovan descent)? If he really is 17 years old (like Bonny claimed), then he would have lived in Moldovan SSR for at least three years, so he would have had some command of the language before the borders opened, and his family would normally continue speaking it after moving abroad. If this is not what happened, then the claim is moot, because the Moldovan ethnicity (like the Montenegrin and Macedonian ethnicities), wasn't created (i.e. invented by a communist dictator, just like in the other two cases) until after the establishment of the USSR. --Telex 20:23, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

He claimed to be 17, but maybe now he turned 18. He doesn't have Moldovan/Moldavian ethnicity, ie. no Moldovan blood. From what we know, he has never been to Moldova. --Candide, or Optimism 20:25, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
What religion are the self-declared Moldovans? When the communist dictators invented the Macedonian and Montenegrin ethnicities, they also invented Macedonian and Montenegrin Orthodox Churches (actually, the Montenegrin Orthodox Church already existed, but received special promotion). Is there a Moldovan Orthodox Church? --Telex 20:32, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Well, Principality of Moldavia had its own church, etc., and now Moldova has its own church. Moldovans are indeed Orthodox. Btw., I thought most Arvanites identified themselves as Greeks and hated Albanians. At least that's what I've read. --Candide, or Optimism 20:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Yes, that's about right. See this article. --Telex 20:37, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
There are two churches one is under Romanian control one under the Moscow control. Who do you think goes to the russian church? The russians and ukrainians...--141.14.139.166 20:39, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Anittas, please concentrate on the content and leave Node alone. He is whoever he considers himself and he considers himself Moldovan. The rest is none of our business. Almost none of the Soviet Jews of the post-war generation spoke any Hebrew or Yiddish and almost none ever been to sinagogue. The majority could not (sadly) tell the main differences between the Judaism and Christianity. Still, they all felt as they were Jewish which they rightfully could, especially in view of sneaky and officially denied anti-Semitism of the post-war Soviet Union.

The person ethnicity is what he feels first of all and in any case it's none of anyone's business. Deal with his edits and put the rest aside.

I suggest you don't engage into any discussion with any of the Bonny's socks and, better yet, eliminate his entries from your talk. Please help us all with more articles on medieval battles or whatever that you want to do.

It looks like I am mentoring you. Sorry. That's not my intention. Deng is enough for me. Take care, --Irpen 21:16, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

If I were to say that I feel Ukranian, and then say that Ukranians are not Ruthenians, but something else (Poles, Russians, whatever), and make propaganda against your people, would you then not tell me off? I think you would. And I think you would say that I'm not Ukranian. --Candide, or Optimism 21:38, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I would not care about what you say on your ethnicity and would concentrate on you article's edits. I suggest you do just that. Leave Node alone just because you may end up banned fro stalking him if not for any other reason. Why not start writing articles? --Irpen 21:44, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi there

Just stopped by to thank you for commenting on what I left on Jimbo's talk page and I noticed that you are Romanian. My grandfather was from Romania. I only met him once when I was a small child, but can say my memory of him is very sad and sweet. He was the gentlest and sweetest of all my family members. I almost want to cry when I think of him. Please leave a comment on my talk page any time, or even on my user page and feel free to say anything you want. I may or may not get offended, but if I do, feel that this is my problem. Also, please don't worry about some of the strange images on my user page. I just have a unique way of saying stuff. Thanks again. Metrocat 22:21, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi again, thanks for leaving me a message. I agree fully in what you said about people having their voice heard. It's real important. I live in the U.S., in a small country town. Are you a he or a she, if I may ask? I'm a she. Metrocat 22:42, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Oh yeah, sorry. I didn't read it too carefully and I have been reading a lot of articles and user pages lately. Metrocat 22:50, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Np. :p --Candide, or Optimism 22:53, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Np. :p ? Metrocat 23:18, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
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