Talk:Animal training
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[edit] External Links
I added a starter external links section. I'm mostly familiar with some exotic animal and pet dog organizations. Re: Moorpark's EATM, I have no affiliation with them whatsoever, but they are very well known and one of the first recommendations you can hear from many people in the field of exotics. Santaduck 08:44, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Need to Add
- Contrast Positive punishment with Positive reinforcement training, and provide a history (including circuses). Also provide examples where these techniques are still used today.
- Background on Skinner and Operant Conditioning, and ways that modern training methods depart from strictly Skinnerian operant conditioning. Also explain why operant conditioning has largely been replaced by cognition in the study of human psychology, but only partially so in animal psychology, and especially not by animal trainers, who often call themselves "animal behaviorists".
- Add publications. For marine mammals, Karen Pryor's Don't Shoot the Dog and Ken Ramirez's textbook would be an example.
- Add more info on topics not covered: show dogs, horse racing and dressage and other show uses, training animals for hollywood, non North American examples (such as elephant Mahouts), herding/police/rescue/DEA/hunting dogs, training animals for cognition & sensory research, training FAQ for home pets, avian training specialty, tiger/lion/bear (e.g. siegfried & roy), and probably a section on various schools of guard dog training. Santaduck 08:52, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Change to Animal training?
Should this entry be changed from animal trainer to animal training? Compare with running, hiking, skiing, etc., where activities and occupations are the primary listing, rather than the noun which refers to a practictioner. However, contrast with entries such as corporate trainer, but note that the activity (verb) and the practitioner (noun) are not exactly parallel: doing animal training vs. doing corporate training the latter refers to being the subject of the activity, rather than the doer, whereas the former refers to the doer. Opting for animal training thus probably makes more consistent
Also I would opt for animal training also because the article could easily be more encyclopedically useful with technical information on the specifics of variants of the method of animal training.Santaduck 11:19, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
UPDATE: moved, and all double redirects fixed
- Well, I didn't get a chance to offer an opinion before all the links were changed. An animal trainer article would not, ideally, have the same information as an animal training article. The former would focus on the role of an animal trainer, the trainer's training (e.g., there are college-level programs and non-academic programs, etc.), kinds of animal trainers, and so on. However, now we don't have a good way of finding those links in the event that someone wants to actually create an article on animal trainers. (This is part of my objection, which I state periodically but nowhere that anyone would ever notice, of course, that piping things that are not synonyms means we lose the fact that there are a whole lot of links to somethign for which there likely ought to be an article on its own; also, please consider giving changes like this more than half a day to give people a chance to respond.) Elf | Talk 21:51, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] To change links back to "animal trainer"
For future convenience, because I think at some point we'll want to change all the piped [[animal training|animal trainer]] back: to find all links that say "animal trainer" but are now piped to animal training, see Special:Contributions/Santaduck from 20:44, 20 January 2006 to 21:04, 20 January 2006.
[edit] Reorganization
Finished a whole host of additional information, new sections, and resource links. Also finished moving from animal trainer to animal training.
The reorganization into various sections is tentative. I'm not an expert in dog, zoo, equestrian, avian areas, so my section titles or even their hierarchy of organizations may need to be changed by a knowledgeable expert.
I've added starter text for most of the new sections, but these are very much stubs, so that relevant experts have some text to bounce off of. Santaduck 22:06, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
I deleted the section on puppy training under the "Methods" heading. It was inappropriate for an encyclopedic article as it was completely out of context and this information is already covered under the dog training article.
