Talk:Animal Face-Off

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[edit] What the heck happened!?

This show just vanished, apparently. I loved watching this back in `04, but it seemingly vanished since. Does ANYONE know if it still comes on? I`m missing this show desperatly!

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[edit] Biased result

This show does not reflect the real world. First, in Amazon forest, Anaconda cannot handle a jaguar, let alone beating it. Then, grizzly bear brings down Siberian tigers, which is also not true. In Siberia, where tigers and brown bears coexist, brown bears will often try to steal or rob the tiger's kill, but the success rate is low, and the large brown male will choose to take on much smaller female tigress to avoid becoming another tiger's diet item. In Siberia, some tigers feed regurlarly on bears, and one male tiger named Dale is documented for this behaviour in the Siberian tiger project. Now, lion vs nile crocodiles. Crocodiles are known to have digested leopards, but a lion is too much for them, especially a male. In Asia, tigers often kill crocodiles which dare attack them or steal their kills, lions and tigers are about the same size, so this is unlikely true, and in the stomach of nile crocodiles, there has never been a lion reported. And lastly, lions beat tigers. It takes a pride of lions(at least 3) to bring down a buffalo 680kg - 900 kg. It takes a single tiger to bring down a gaur or water buffalo 1000kg - 1200kg( a gaur can weigh even much more, and water buffalo horns can span more than 2.5 metres tip to tip). Tigers sometimes attack elephants, and they show no fear toward them. They have been documented to single-handedly kill a mother rhinoceros. Lions mostly avoid elephants, when an elephant comes across, a pride of lions often have to give way, or the elephant will chase them away anyway. This is no opinion, but observed fact, you can consult naturalists about lion-elephant relationship if in doubt. So clearly, in the wild, tigers have more of an edge, both in strength, skills and courage. This show is just for entertainment purpose. they simulate the attacking force of the animals, but not their skills, courage nor intelligence and potential, and hence the result.

Yeah, I don't agree with the lion vs tiger one either. But I have heard that crocodiles do beat lions and anacondas do beat jaguars occasionally. Not sure 'bout tiger vs bear...211.72.108.18 02:21, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah they really went with the whole fairy tale Lion King of Beast BS when they made this conclusion. They didn't take in consideration that the Tiger has the largest canines out of all the Big Cats. This would have played a major role in the fight. During the middle of the fight when the Tiger had the Lion pinned down for the kill and the Tiger bit it's throat and it did absolutely nothing to the Lion is complete BS. SO they are saying that a Tiger having the largest canines in the cat family and a bite force of over 1000 pounds could not bite through a few inches of hair around a Lions neck. That's another thing what cat goes for a through bite during a fight???? I mean this was nothing for than fairy tale crap.

Not to mention that they didn't take the Bengals superior strength and agility into consideration. Complete BS!!!!!!!!!!!

If you want some real Tiger vs Lion action here you go

http://www.youtube.com/results?search=Tiger+vs+Lion&search_type=search_videos&search=Search

There are about 15 fights on this site between a Tiger and a Lion and the Tiger wins 12 of them, you tell me whose the true king of the Beast.

In the Wikipedia anaconda page, it is stated anacondas may eat jaguars. In the Nile crocodile page it is stated that no African land vertebrate is safe from Nile crocodiles (supposing the vertebrate went near water of course) except full-grown elephants and hippopotamuses. Even rhinoceroses are attacked.61.230.72.211 00:57, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

But who proves that it's true? To tell the truth, I never saw a nile crocdile of any size take on anything larger than a zebra. On the wiki tiger page, they say croc's bite strength is 2 tons, but after being bitten by a croc, an adult zebra or a wildebeest sometimes still getaway almost unhurt ( I just watched another TV show on national geographic: the real serengeti, in which this is the case). So, I suggest: believe what you see, do not believe something you are told but sounds unrealistic.

Yeah, I REALLY don't agree with lion vs tiger. Dora Nichov 11:52, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

YOU never saw a Nile crocodile eat a lion. Are you a guy who studies crocodiles? If not, YOU can't prove anything either. About tiger vs lion, I've heard that the mane is no protection from tigers when tigers and lions were forced to fight. The tigers simply crunched the backbone. Dora Nichov 10:28, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

You don't know what your talking about, how could a crocodile attack a fully grown elephant(which it can't). Crocodiles take on Wildebeasts and zebras all the time, I know I've seen. The Anaconda won fair and square,the tiger could've beat a lion, but as shown in the movie the lion wins thanks to it's mane. Idiot, read the articles!!

Are you talking to ME? If you are, let me say that I never said that crocodiles can kill elephants, and that I agree anacondas can beat jaguars. In real pit fights, tigers beat lions by biting the spine, not the throat. Dora Nichov 09:14, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I agree with the results. Lions are the only cats which live together. There, they can practice fighting more and probably learn a thing or two from parents, aunts, or uncles. However, tigers are solitary, therefore the young learn more of the hard way. Radical3 04:04, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm... But that would also mean lions are more accoustomed to fighting in a pack/pride instead of fighting alone. Though it is a close match, I'd still say tiger in a one-on-one match. But if you're talking about a lion pack vs one tiger, I have nothing to say. Dora Nichov 09:47, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

But I do disagree with some of the other scenarios. For example, polar bear and walrus, are you sure the walrus wins for one my friends told me the bear won the battle. Also, I disagree with tiger and brown bear, and alligator with bear. Radical3 17:41, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree with tiger vs brown bear (unless the tiger ambushed) but not loser: American alligator vs winner: black bear. Dora Nichov 10:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More Episode Pages

Sorry I have to request pages.

  • 1. I can't create a page
  • 2. I haven't seen Animal Face-Off, though I do know the results.61.230.72.211 02:14, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reformatting the results?

Does anyone else think that it would be cleaner if the results were on the same line as the episode rather than a separate list?

e.g. Saltwater Crocodile vs. Great White Shark (winner: Great White Shark)

Rayasmith 03:50, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Agree. Dora Nichov 09:11, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bob's Animal Fights

I know this is a bit off topic, but has anyone seen a website called Bob's Animal Fights? It's completely and utterly absurd. MUST be fake. Just look:

  • "Bob" supposedly gets animals from these "zoo keeper friends". How would a ZOO agree to let people borrow animals for FIGHTING!?
  • Polar bear vs swarm of wasps: Polar bear farts, wasps die. Stupid.
  • Cat vs alligator: Cat kills alligator with gun. Who'd beleive THAT!?
  • Giant panda vs some-kind-of-shark-I-don't-remember: Giant panda does this Dorsal Fin Lock and shark dies. Whatever that is.
  • Electric eel vs army ant colony: "Bob" apparently puts the electric eel on land and the army ants swarm and kill it. Silly.
  • Gorilla vs ostrich: Ostrich "gets some stamps in but the gorilla was just awesome!" (Quote). Why'd they fight in the first place? Gorilla and King Kong are not the same. Sure a gorilla would probably win this fight, but what a strange combination!
  • Great white shark vs yak: "Bob" puts yak in water and great white chomps it. Huh.
  • Beaver vs. fox: Beaver got eaten by a fox.
  • Lion vs. garbage bull: Lion wins. Garbage bull lost.
  • Spider Monkey vs. vulture: Spider Monkey beats vulture with a teeth.
  • Giant squid vs. Gorilla: Gorilla wins. Giant squid lost.
  • Lionfish vs. Tiger Shark: Lionfish beats Tiger Shark with a poisn web thing.
  • Croc vs. hippo: Hippo wins. Croc lost.
  • "Bob" even has a link to "How To Confuse Animal Rights Activists".
  • "Bob" calls himself "professor". As if! *Snorts*
  • There's "pictures" of the animals fighting, but even a baby could tell they're fake. Don't believe me. See for yourself then.

There's many more! But I can't remember. Like I said, go see for yourself! Dora Nichov 11:52, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bald Eagle vs California Condor

Was there really such an episode? Dora Nichov 00:34, 9 September 2006 (UTC) (Winner: Califonia Condor) (Loser: Bald Eagle)

[edit] Other Episodes

Last time I read the article, I found WAY more episodes. Were they fake? Radical3 04:01, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

YES! I keep reverting but they persist. Wait until I get my "paws" on them... Dora Nichov 09:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Bald Eagle and California Condor? I thought there was something fishy. Man, I do hate it when people vandalize. Radical3 17:37, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah. And it seems there's LOTS of people doing it, not just one... They're done for... *looks at ball* *howls* Dora Nichov 10:01, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

O.K. then. Radical3 20:56, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Someone edited the article and wrote "Zinadine Zidane vs. Marco Matterazzi" (you know, he headbutted him) and it said "Winner: Red Card". THAT WAS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STUPID!Radical3 21:00, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what that means but I deleted it anyway. Dora Nichov 06:47, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

You don't get it? Never heard of Zinadine Zidane? Headbutt? Fifa 2006? Man, you really need to watch the news!Radical3 18:17, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Uhh... Still don't get it, don't watch TV much, especially news LOL. Dora Nichov 09:41, 21 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] YouTube Clips

Hey! Has anyone seen the animal face-off clips on YouTube?

You can't see it really well, but at least you can still watch it. Radical3 16:19, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

Nobody has apparently cited a source for the episodes or winners before now. I found one and removed the {{unreferenced}} template. Any further additions that do not provide a citation can be considered vandalism. --Ginkgo100talk 20:51, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Animal Face-Off Episodes

[edit] ===Results....===

  • Great White Shark beats Saltwater Crocodile.
  • African Elephant beats White Rhinoceros.
  • Lion beats Tiger.
  • Hippopotamus beats Bull Shark.
  • Cougar beats Gray Wolf.
  • Walrus beats Polar Bear.
  • Brown Bear beats Tiger.
  • Nile Crocodile beats Lion.
  • Anaconda beats Jaguar.
  • Gorilla beats Leopard.
  • Black Bear beats American Alligator.
  • Sperm Whale beats Giant Squid.

[edit] === More than biased : It's incompetence....===

As "biased results", i want to say if "discovery channel" don't make really good show with animals (it's TV standard shows, you know), Animal Face-Off is litterally a shame.

They take as fact things we don't know (better exemple : Strengh of a big white shark).

They seem to not know how really act animals when they fights, or don't care.

White shark attacks on big mammals are well documented. I don't think a WS even THINK to attack an Hippo in this manner. Seem they think because hippo can fight Bull Shark it's the same thing with Shark that actually attack big animals...

The wolf vs cougar is a laugh. Yes, a cougar can kill a grey wolf more easilly than a GW can kill a cougar, but first we know wolf kill more ofter cougar than cougar wolfs because wolf is a GROUP animal - put a group animal against a predator specialized in one-to-one fights and have a weight of two, three or even five than him is pretty stupid), and two a wolf NEVER attack than that. Damnit, he attack the TAIL of the cougar ?! Oh My God, the discovery channel "expert" have hear, i suppose, that canids attack biggers carnivors by attaking their back, and they conclude they attack the tail ?! NO reall expert make that error. NO ONE !

Lion against Tiger : There is a lot of fights in the past. All the real experts say the same thing : The tiger is more powerfull than the lion and kill him the more.

Etc., etc., etc.

Talk pages are not messageboards. Make a suggestion to improve the article or get off wikipedia Kplzthxbai.

K00bine 17:38, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

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