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[edit] The Carricks and the Tyrones

Just writing to see if you know about Barrow's new belief regarding the decent of Robert I. The theory is that Nicholas, the son of Donnchad mac Gille Brigte, earl of Carrick, married the daughter of Niall Ruadh O'Neill, giving the following genealogies:

Niall Ruadh O'Neill
  • Brian mac Neill O'Neill
    • Domnall mac Brian Ó Néill, the kinglet who arranged the crowning of Edward de Brus
Niall Ruadh O'Neill
  • x inghean Neill Ruaidh O'Neill
    • Niall mac Donnchada, earl of Carrick
      • Marthok inghean Neill, countess of Carrick
        • Robert I, King of Scots & Edward, Lord of Galloway/Earl of Carrick

This makes Donal O'Neill the granduncle of Edward, which would help explain Edward's probable fosterage with him. Anyways, Barrow arrived at this conclusion after consulting with a genealogist named B. MacEwen. It's in the new edition of his Robert Bruce book. It would also potentially make King Robert the great, great grandson of Rory O'Connor, as Niall Ruadh's wife was his daughter. It was mentioned here before the publication of Barrow's new edition. I haven't yet decided whether or not I buy it. "Nicholaus" seems a little far-fetched a name for that cultural millieu (... who else would have had that name?), and the idea that "Nicholaus" was just an attempt to culturize the foreign name "Niall" seems a pretty good explanation. On the other hand, the argument has convinced Barrow and does have its strengths. If true, it does make you wonder how "Scottish", as opposed to trans-channel, the Carrick world view really was. Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 21:23, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

By "all new", I hope you understand virtually the only differences are more illustrations and this genealogy part. He's left much of his outdated stuff in there, not that there's much of that though. It is a very important book still. BTW, do you have or know where I can find a full, high quality picture of William Brassey Hole's mural from the Scottish National Portrait Gallery? It has loads of individual profiles that could be used on wiki, as the copyright has expired. In case this artwork ain't familiar to you, it's where the picture in Cináed mac Ailpín comes from. Regards, Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 22:35, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I don't really no what to say to her now; I'm prolly best keeping my mouth shut. BTW, almost finished User:Calgacus/David I. Just need to 1) reintegrate paragraphs after previous shift around from chronological to thematic order and 2) shorten it and open sub-articles. What kinda lenth d'you think it'd get away with during an FA? 80 max? 70 max? 60 max? Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 00:27, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] War of the Pacific

Hello There! Thank you for your contributions to that page. However, User:Bdean1963 was blocked for 1 day because of his revert war with me in that article, and has being clearly warned about such a disruptive behavior here in Wikipedia. You acted in good faith to revert the article and remove a whole section that so far more than 3 Wikipedians have already agreed that doesn't belong to the article, but unfortunately your edition was not respected. I have already informed the respective administrators to take note on User:Bdean1963's behavior, and I encourage you to not be intimidated for this outrageous behavior and put the article back into his original state. Thanks. Messhermit 19:34, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Hello! I have reverted the article back to your edition. Hopefully, User:Bdean1963 will not create more troubles. I was never against creating a separate article, and in fact this has being proposed by more than 1 wikipedian. Please read the Talk Page and tell me your opinion of this dispute. Messhermit 19:45, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
As you can see, User:Bdean1963 has not responded. I wonder why. I'm changing his "Legacy of the War of the Pacific" article for Chilean-Peruvian Maritime Dispute of 2006 Messhermit 14:28, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Hello there! The creation of an article similar to the one dealing with Ecuador and Peru can be one of the many answers for you problems. However, remember that as of today neither side has declared parts of the Treaty of Ancon or the Treaty of Lima null and void, or that there was a historical dispute between both countries for a certain territory. Chile got Arica and Tarapaca in war, and Wikipedia cannot change that. Only minor groups of nationalist reject this, but that doesn't mean that we have an ongoing dispute with Chile. The Maritime Dispute is another separate subject in both political and international context, and I think is better to develop it into a full encyclopedic article that will eventually include Ecuador, one of the parties involved and another country that had (but solved) a similar problem with Peru. Messhermit 16:10, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Now, I'm deeply concern with Bdean's attitude. As you can see he simply doesn't bother to discuss at all and keeps attacking my person instead of my editions. I'm afraid that any change would be reverted by him. I simply don't know how to deal with him. Messhermit 16:10, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
... and this is just random: User:Bdean1963 created this article Chilean-Peruvian Maritime Dispute of to avoid working in the one that I renamed Chilean-Peruvian Maritime Dispute of 2006. Messhermit 16:14, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

The tag Chilean-Peruvian Maritime Dispute of was created to reflect the contemporary nature of the maritime dispute (the conflict continues to this day and did not end in 2006!). Please note that User:Messhermit developed the page Chilean-Peruvian Maritime Dispute of 2006 after erasing the page I had created called "Contemporary legacy of the War of the Pacific" (as the editing history clearly indicates). The page was created in an effort to address User:Messhermit's concerns regarding the epistemological legitimacy of including the current maritime dispute on an entry dedicated to a 19th century war. Nevertheless, I continue to stand steadfast in my belief (shared by the majority of the scholarly community) that the War of the Pacific continues to shape international relations and domestic relations in the respective primary countries involved in the dispute (Bolivia, Chile, and Peru), despite historically naive and uninformed claims to the contrary. User:Bdean1963 13 February 2007

I appreciate your commentary on my talk page and look forward to your input in resolving the editorial dispute over the historical legacy of the War of the Pacific, a major South American armed conflict whose lasting scars have yet to be healed. Regards, User:Bdean1963 13 Febuary 2007

[edit] User:Bdean1963, once again..

Hello there! I'm afraid that this user is once again attempting to create troubles, only that this time it involves the article of President of Peru. To make a long story short:

I finished organizing the Presidents of Peru and added a small footnote that neutrally stated: "President Fujimori submitted his resignation to Congress". Apparently, anti-Fujimoristas Wikipedians want to add that he "resigned by fax", clearly a "Red Herring" fallacy with the clear intention to denigrate this action. Nevertheless, a civilized discussion is going on in the talk page of the article, and all of a sudden User:Bdean1963 is creating problems once again by attempting to force his POV in the article.

Do you think you can help us to sort this problem? your mediation in the War of the Pacific was really helpful and I think that you can give us a hand once again. Thanks Messhermit 03:24, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your quick response in the article of Presidents of Peru. I do not agree with some of your statements, but hopefully your editions can help us to prevent another rv war. Messhermit 18:11, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Hello there! Thanks for your reply. User:Bdean1963 has a clear Anti-Fujimori political agenda, and just by looking at his contributions you can confirm that indeed he is not looking for neutrality but to impose what he considers is "historical record". That's my biggest concern here: that Wikipedia becomes a heaven for people with bias and slander against certain countries or public figures. In this case, the fact that he faxed or submitted the resignation is not the problem - after all, He was impeached by Congress. But why is Bdean1963 so obsessed with the idea of introducing that detail? obviously, to divert the discussion to a more favorable environment for him, a clear "Red Herring" fallacy. 19:46, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Indeedie

Indeedie. Just what I was thinking. This diff proves I think that he is not a new user, though I do't believe there is enough info yet to identify him with you-know-who. We'll just have to see if he starts appearing on the harp page and his other favorite ex-hang-outs. Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 14:48, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey, well hopefully - if 'tis him - he won't make it that hard. Anyways, check out Annals of Innisfallen, s.a. 1094.5. Scottish historians seem to have missed this. Look at the preceeding entry, and tell me if you think this has no impact on our understanding of this period. Regards, Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 15:19, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
The position of the entry follows immediately the entry about Donnchad being slain by Domnall: here
Donnchadh son of Mael Coluim, king of Alba, was slain by Domnall, son of Donnchadh. That same Domnall, moreover, afterwards took the kingship of Alba.
Congal's son, king of Na Renna, was slain.
I think it's funny that this occurs directly afterwards. Did the Galwegians back Donnchad ... how does this relate to the emergence of Galloway and the principality of Cumrbia? I'm working on the fate of latter just now, like to say more, but have to try work it out. Just came across the latter this afternoon reading the Hudson article ... and thought ... hah! Oram and Broun missed that! Oram doesn't seem to know this guy, but devotes a lot of attention to Echmarcach because of his kingship of the Rhinns. Maybe I was jumping ahead of myself ... but we'll see. Regards, Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 20:25, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
He has thrown off the masquerade and gone back to his old self. Check his contribs. Regards, Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 22:47, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A kind request from WP Films

We have a problem in WP Films lately: Categories and lists of films are being CfD'd and AfD'd and some deleted without any notification in the project page. I see now that Russian Empire films is gone. I wish I would have known in time to explain some things about it. Well, if you see another film related issued being in the process of deletion, could you please notify us? We are doing our best to organize the huge amount of articles, we have started a categorization sub-project, and I think we should have our say in such matters. I know there are still lots of messy and incomplete categories, but I think the best way to sort them out is to first let us know about it. The deletion process can be very helpful (and has often motivated great improvements in leaps), so long as we can participate in it. Thanks. Hoverfish Talk 23:19, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. For film categories, in the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Films/Categorization. For lists in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Films. The nominator of the CfD * doesn't show clearly in the archived discussion, or I would have asked him/her too. I will post a request at some of the voters anyway. Cheers! Hoverfish Talk 23:46, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Crichton Leprechaun restored

This article has been restored after its deletion was contested at Wikipedia:Deletion review. As you nominated the article to be deleted via WP:PROD, you may wish to nominate the article for a full deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. -- nae'blis 21:41, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

My undeletion was procedural based on Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion#Crichton_Leprachaun, but you could ask the original poster there for more information on why they were looking for the page. Anything that's survived AFD should not go to PROD or A7 speedy, in my view. -- nae'blis 22:21, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Orkney

As far as I understand it, the early earls of Orkney are regarded as fictional characters, oft. created by duplicating later figures (e.g. Sigurd the Stout and Sigurd the Mighty). I've never really given Orkney my attention, and haven't mastered the material (hence why I don't touch the Earl of Orkney article) though. From what I see from the article, you're taking the best approach to Ragnvald Eysteinsson that a wikipedian can take ... taking him as you find him; the flaws come in when legendary characters who may be inventions get integrated into larger historical narratives and people forget what the first modern historians actually based their interpretations of events upon. Bottom line, he is a work of fiction just as much as Achilles or Romulus. You can have a section (Reality?) talking about modern historical opinions regarding his existence, but that's about it. Good work and happy editing! Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ)

BTW Angus, good work on Flann Sinna. Article looks close to being nominatable for FA (though I'm sure you're taking into consideration the ease with which I have sometimes nominated). You realise that those charming homobots are gonna demand an infobox at some stage?! Anyways, best regards, Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 02:36, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Angus, check out User talk:David Lauder. Normally I've got to go to the National Library or the Special Collection to get access to that kind of source, but apparently 18th century works are easier to get hold of than our crappy 21st century sources. Wonders will never cease! Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 17:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:SCOWNB Participants merger with WP:SCO

As I hope you may have seen I am attempting to tidy up WP:SCOWNB by removing old notices and the duplication that has emerged since the creation of WP:SCO. One of the latter issues is that there are lists of active Wikipedians on both locations which overlap to a significant degree. As WP:SCOWNB is ideally a place for announcements I am in process of merging the lists at WP:SCO and intend to remove the one at WP:SCOWNB when this is complete. However there are a fair number of Users not on both lists. If you do not wish to have you current WP:SCOWNB entry re-appear at WP:SCO please either let me know or edit the latter as appropriate. Thanks for your patience, and continuing support of matters relating to WikiProject Scotland. Ben MacDui (Talk) 18:29, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gormflaith

I saw your name reappearing quite a lot in the edithistory of Brian Boru. I'm a new user on no:wiki, and I have recently translated/rewritten the article on BB to norwegian no:Brian Boru. In the english wiki the text says that Gormflaith was formerly wedded to Mael Sechnaill (as well as to Olav Cuaran) - I can't seem to find verification of that. This marriage is not mentioned in Gormflaith either. If you know anything about this, or could provide me with some hints so as to where to look further, I would be very grateful. I haven't set up a user page here, so please respond if poosible at no:brukerdiskusjon:finnrind. Yours, Finn Rindahl, 22.45 CET —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.88.143.43 (talk) 21:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC).

Replied at no:Brukerdiskusjon:Finnrind#Gorm(f)laith's husbands. I'll update Gormflaith accordingly. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:10, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, just what I needed. I don't have any relevant literature at hand myself, and have to base what I do on sources available on the net. You may want to take a look at Battle of Clontarf at some point, it seems to me that the whole article is based on the not enterily historical Njals saga and popular tradition... Again, thank you for your help :-) no:brukerdiskusjon:finnrind. Yours, Finn Rindahl, 23.35 CET 88.88.143.43 22:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks again Angus, I had one of those articles (9th century) but had not found the others. I didn't know anything about medieval irish history three weeks ago - and now I'm trying to write encyclopedic articles about it... Now I have got some reading to do :-) Finn R88.88.143.43 22:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] re:Nothing personal

I know, you are just doing your job and I was wondering why you dont apply for Adminship seeing that you have over 20000 meanigful Edits and BTW I never saw the comment you left for me and yeah I didnt complain about his Wikipedia thingy because he had contributed enough(about 800..hehe) and anyways Iam not the type that fights with other Editors and I always take things in gud Strides and P.S can you archive your talk page pliz because it took me such a long time to wait for your page to open..Iam on Dial-up you Know(56kbps>slowwww)....Cheers..--Cometstyles 23:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah thats True but as you might have read in my userpage , Iam form Fiji and here the highest internet speed is 128kbps in Broadband which is so low, but anywayz I managed to do quite well because I only edit on Wikipedia when everyone else in Fiji is sleeping which is why I have managed to get over 5300 edits in just 4 months and yeah its true because I do encounter so much Edit conflict because of the internet speed but as usual I manage, anywayz I hope I can increase my Internet speed connection as as soon as possble..Cheers..--Cometstyles 21:30, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

I've replied to your posting atWikipedia_talk:Article_inclusion#Reinserted_a_modified_version_of_the_.22over_time.22_sentences_Jossi_deleted. Walton Vivat Regina! 14:14, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lyderic

See this: Lydéric and Phinaert. I don't know the best way to deal with such articles. Maybe I'll try later, maybe you can merge them. Srnec 20:55, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:new articles

I dunno if that's an invitation for suggestions or not. I just let myself go with the tide of my inclinations ... which I think is always the best way if you want wiki to be fun. If you're gonna work on the long planned SEMAs article, then feel free to use as much or as little of my long abandoned User:Calgacus/Early Medieval Northern Britain, which could save you some time. When my article writing time frees up again in a month's time, I may (as well as continuing by bishops project) turn my attention to William I of Scotland, Alexander Bur, and/or the Alexander Stewarts. I really think Columba is an important one to do too, core topic as it is, so hopefully (if you haven't), I can get around at some point to doing that. I'll try to proof-read Flann Sinna at some point. You could nominate it now if you wanted, so long as you were prepared to respond to all criticisms; FACture seems to be sometimes the only way of getting extensive peer review. BTW, I put your article on your namesake up at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests, hope you don't mind. Would've put little Áed up too, but there's a lack of picture. There's one on BBC, the copyright of which is expired; but it is small and is obviously an anachronistic depiction. Tried finding it on SCRAN, but couldn't, even though the BBC said that's where they got it from. Tough. Happy St Patricks Day! Regards, Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 16:18, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] vandalism??

You may want to look into Brian Boru, there has been some rather strange edits lately. I tried to revert some, but with my limited knowledge of both irish history, english language and the noble art of editing wiki I'm passing this one on to you. Finnrind 20:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gigha

I dare say you are exhuasted from defending the good Jocelin from the forces of darkness, but if you have a moment could you have a look and see if this [1] entry for Gigha passes muster? Ben MacDui (Talk) 10:37, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ani related

Rather than clog up ANI further, I'll comment here: if I wanted to know what Armenian/Kurdish material was up for deletion, reading down the list of your Wikispace contribs looking for XfDs would be an easy way to find it. I don't know that this is how it's done, any more than you know that it's done by email, but it would certainly work. Regards, Angus McLellan (Talk) 12:00, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I am not exactly certain what is it that you are asking. Are you looking for a way to scan my contribs for AfDs/CfDs/TfDs I participated in? If so you can use Interiot's tool. -- Cat chi? 13:06, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
No, what I'm saying is that anyone who looks at this every so often will have a good idea of what XfDs you have commented in and that they may want to comment in those as well. It could be you who is doing the "canvassing" just by your (predictable) editing patterns. Angus McLellan (Talk) 13:13, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Am I being accused of something? Please elaborate. -- Cat chi? 15:00, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
If I were accusing you of something, we'd be likely having this discussion over in wikispace. For now, I'm merely drawing your attention to the curious nature of your XfD contributions. Angus McLellan (Talk) 15:17, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
I was well aware of my nominations. You see a pattern in them? Thats nice. I tend to live a chaotic life. Why is it that you are pointing this out to me? And what exactly is the pattern? You got me confused. -- Cat chi? 15:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
I am still waiting for you to explain yourself. What's up? -- Cat chi? 11:54, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Hey, if you don't see any issue that's all that matters. Angus McLellan (Talk) 15:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Ah OK, is there any other way I can help you? I am a self proclaimed template guru after all :) -- Cat chi? 16:16, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, yes, but not with templates. You're a Commons admin, and I guess that would make you an expert on transwikying stuff to Commons. I've been trying to clean out the backlog of images needing copied, but it's a bit tedious. If Commons is down, can't upload. If Wikipedia is down, can't find images to download. If the toolserver is down, can't get Magnus's commonshelper to work (and too lazy to do it by hand). If the upload server is having a bad day - and that seems to be around half the times I try - no downloads. It feels like I must be being really dim here and that I'm missing something obvious. Is there an easier way to do things, particularly in terms of grabbing the images off Wikipedia? Thanks in advance, Angus McLellan (Talk) 16:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

There used to be this tool: http://hdbot.velirat.de/ but it is broken right now and the programmer says he will be busy for the next 3 months with real life. Sadly commons administrators do not have any tool that is not available to regular users for such a task. So my options are the same as you. -- Cat chi? 07:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
You may want to check some of these tools: commons:Commons:Tools#Upload_media -- Cat chi? 08:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Those commons tools look like they are exactly what what I need. Thanks very much indeed. Angus McLellan (Talk) 08:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Glad I could be of any help. I'd like to point out one important issue though you probably already know this. When you are uploading "free images" from en.wiki to commons you are basically guaranteeing its "freeness"... So it is very important to review each and every image. People often upload non-free images to en.wiki with a free license. It would be advisable to keep a list of images you have uploaded via the tools somewhere on your userspace. -- Cat chi? 15:32, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:David Beaton

Important discussion taking place on Talk:David Beaton. This is not canvassing, as I'm willing to be persuaded if Doc or yourself or others come up with other arguments, but atm don't see his logic. The discussion is potentially highly significant for 100s of articles on wikipedia. Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 17:18, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that. And congrats for being the first to comment on my "new" talk page. I'd actually already came across that link already. Will just not bother for the moment tracking every article written by myself. Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 22:52, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
I take it back ... I hadn't seen that site. I thought it was something else; then I had second thoughts, looked at it and did my search. Thank you very much. PS, I can't believe I've done nearly 900 articles; guess the work now is to sift out all the redirects (can only see a tiny percentage of the ones I know I actually created) and disamb pages and find out what the actual number is. -> see it's sectioned off for me. Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 01:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
PS, the kings of Strathclyde; do you reckon these should be moved to Welsh names. At the time of creation I decided just to go with Gaelic so as not to complicate things or start making spurious judgments of the culture of each one. I think now I was wrong, and should prolly used Welsh as the default. If you wish to change them while I'm on wikibreak (coming soon), then go ahead. Otherwise I'll look at it when I get back. Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 01:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: User page

Hi there! Sorry about the delayed reply; I think you may be a bit confused, as any old userpage I may have created has long since been deleted. I hope this belated note clears up any lingering confusion you may have had. Cheers gaillimhConas tá tú? 19:56, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

You were caught out. Don't play holier then thou routine BernardZ 13:21, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

It was a created in the open. I put it too the group what I suggested. Everyone that responded thought positive of the idea. You could have said something then. Not act like a thief in the night!

But if you have a better idea, go to the group with a replacement idea. See what people say. Then do it.

My favorite is we vote on it. I could put a website up where we could nominate PODs and vote on them at the end of the year. BernardZ 04:00, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cfrm notice

I've proposed merging both Category:Maritime republics and Category:Repubbliche Marinare of Italy into Category:Maritime Republics, per the previous CfD discussion. Αργυριου (talk) 19:26, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Máel Sechnaill/ Sechlainn

I see you are the main contributor to both MS mac Maíl Ruanaid and MS mac Domnaill, so you are probable the person to ask: AFM seem to referr to both of these kings as Máel Sechlainn (Maelsechlainn) - is this a corruption of the AFM text or could there be any other reason? I've noticed that you haven't mentioned this version of their name in the heading (with Máel Sechnaill Mór etc), so I take this is not really a name used other places than AFM??

Secondly, and this might be impossible explain to someone with no knowledge of Gaelic whatsoever, is the meaning of the "prename" Máel and Maíl the same?

And thirdly, in popular tradition the norse king of Dublin, Olafr/Amlaib, is often referred to as Olaf the White. Do you know when this identification of characters started? I just wrote a piece for no:wiki no:Olav Kvite, where I have tried to deal with Amlaib Conung/Olaf Ingjaldson/Olaf Gudrodson in the same article while stating that the identities between them is uncertain. So far it has became more or less a translation of Amlaib Conung with additional references, but I'm working on it.

I don't expect you to be my own personal oracle in these things, but from the number of contributions I see you have made in these articles, I thought you might be the person to ask.

BTW, thanks for the links to Ó Corráins articles you sent me before, they have been most helpful. Do you know if he is regarded as controversial, he does argue against traditional opinions quite often? Best regards, Finnrind 19:00, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for your quick and thorough reply. Good answers tend to bring more questions though, so don't be suprised if I knock on your door again. I've more or less started my private "irish medieval history" project on no:wiki, we really didn't have much on the subject, mostly some spin-off articles from the previous work on scottish history. Strange really, considering the norse presence in Ireland at the time. I noticed reference to some sort of "history of ireland"-project on en:wiki, but there doesn't seem to be to much activity? As it is, I'm doing bits and pieces, one day an article about a king, the next about a battle and then the week after that some ancient kingdom. With the present speed no:wiki should be up to date on irish medieval history in time for the bimillenial anniversary of Clontarf.
If your concidering merging olaf the White and amlaib Conung, you might also concider Kingdom of Mide and Kings of Mide, where they don't overlap they contradict. Thanks again, Finnrind 20:30, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Psalters

Can you explain what Amcl has bween doing on Psalters? We are recategorising Illuminated manuscripts but I was not aware of any discusiion on CfD on Psalters. Most of the items you have recategorised are not in fact Illuminated manuscripts, so should not be in the category at all. Johnbod 13:40, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, please do - you will see in my nom at the CfD there was reference to the head category & tranfer of the printed etc items there. I'd forgotten this CfD item. So please reverse the changes - everything was correct as at yesterday. Thanks Johnbod 14:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Great, thanks - we shall have some "scrap" categories at the end of the process, which I'll do in a job lot Johnbod 14:19, 23 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] My RfA

Thank you for support in my unsuccessful RfA. I appreciate the support, and am disappointed on being judged by what in most opinions seem to be the wrong things. Until next time, edit on! :) — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib 03:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Congregation of the Most Holy Redeemer

Thank you for handling the admin work for the deletion of Category:Congregation of the Most Holy Redeemer.--Kevinkor2 06:11, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Kings of Brega

Hi Angus. Good job on the Mael Sechlainn explanation. And I did expand the Kings of Brega list as much as I could, along with that of Lagore and Cnogba. Hope it helps. Fergananim 17:41, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ross Thomas article

I have edited and improved (mostly, just Wiki-formatting) the Ross Thomas article, found two External links, and generally cleaned it up. You placed the "Notability tag" and the "Uncategorized tag" in the article; I improved the article's Wiki Categories and removed (with Good Intentions) the Uncat tag (I also started the Talk page and noted its removal there). How do you feel about removing the Notability tag? Thanks. ProfessorPaul 20:12, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Categories for discussion - closing requested

Hi! I would like you to take a look at these three CFDs and perhaps close them, since they have been up for more than six days now: 1, 2, 3. --MrStalker 22:32, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] admin

Alright then. If you ever decide to take the plunge into adminship, let me know and I'll gladly nominate you. You'd probably be a WP:100 no problem.--Wizardman 18:10, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Society of the Seven

Please quit deleting my articles about this topic. The Society does exist and you aren't doing anyone justice by deleting pertinent information. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jlcruse (talk • contribs) 07:51, 27 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Shaun Fenton

Hi, why did you request that Shuan Fenton be deleted? Please message me back as I believe it to be a reasoned source, as I am quite expierienced at wikipedia, and you're clearly a noob —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Freakincoursework (talk • contribs).

[edit] Assamese people

Thank you for your comments on Category:Assamese people. I shall take your advice and renominate to CFD at a later date. Though there exists an Assamese language, it has been seen that people who do not generally speak that language call themselves Assamese too. In other words, "Assamese people" is not a linguistic identity. And Wikipedia should not treat it as a linguistic one either. Chaipau 11:46, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New question

Sorry to bother you again :-) Do you know anything about this site[2] (maps of Ireland at different historical times with comments). To me the information seems to be rather accurate, with references to the annals and such. But I would be more at ease using it as a source if you could give me a second opinion about it.

BTW, how do I go about proposing a merger at en:wiki. The articles in question are Airgíalla and Kingdom of Airgíalla, the latter being an orphan. Yours Finnrind 21:00, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Impostor

Thanks a lot for the heads up about the impostor. I have blocked him for 24h. Alex Bakharev 11:28, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ridiculous

Just out of interest, why is your name so ridiculous? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Freakincoursework (talk • contribs).

[edit] Barnstar

Thor's Hammer
To aid in smashing the bonds of ignorance regarding the culture and literature of the Anglo-Saxons, I award you this Hammer of Thunor. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 18:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: AWB

Thanks, that would be great!

[edit] My RfA

  • Thanks for the support position. However, I've decided to withdraw my acceptance because of real WP:CIVIL concerns. I will try again later when I've proven to myself and others that my anger will no longer interfere with my abilities as a Wikipedia editor. Thanks again, and I'll see you around here shortly. :) JuJube 04:18, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Freskin of Flanders

Angus, I noticed that the user changed the name from Freskin to Freskin of Flanders, a title which was never applied to this individual so I left a message on his talk page to re-consider his action. Here is my request http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stijn_Calle#Freskin_of_Flanders. This is where all the mis-understanding has come from. Regards, --Bill Reid | Talk 19:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dunbar Castle

Have done something rather silly and stayed up to late on WP! Especially starting articles that wont be finished by the time that head hits the keyboard. It has been annoying me for a very long time that Dunbar Castle hasn't had its own article, so I have started it and am hoping for a bit of help and input..pleaseplease? I see that you've contributed heavily to the Gospatric, Dunbars and March etc. I be grateful iof you don't have anything more pressing to help me beef it out. Slán. Brendandh 02:18, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Britain and Great Britain

Dear Angus, So you say that there these two are one and the same! Would you like to supply the evidence? Eog1916 12:41, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Maps and more

Thanks for your reply concerning that map-link, and for letting me use the maps on your subpages. The proper templates for overlaying had not been implemented in no:wiki, but I've got a template wiz friend of mine working on it :-). It seems I can't copy your code, so I have to do the work from schratch. If you would like to take a look at the work in progress it is found in no:bruker:finnrind/Kladd3, as part of my draft article on Ireland in the early medieval period.

Since you invited me into your sandbox I had a look around. Good to see that you are working on Eóganachta, I had a look at the article in the mainspace and concluded not to translate it. Would it be ok if I translated the first part of your draft article as an article for no, I believe that would suffice (for now - I'll translate the rest whenever you post it in mainspace.)Finnrind 18:14, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Source cats

Sorry, I missed that one. Frankly I don't think it's all that problematic from an attribution point of view (although we'd have to ask a copyright guru to be sure). I think your idea of making a template detect the namespace is very good, though. >Radiant< 15:19, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template guru assistance needed...

Hello! Hope you're well. I have a simple (for a guru; not for me) template question. How would I add a category to a page if, and only if, the current page is in the Talk: namespace? Hope it's easy! Thanks in advance, Angus McLellan (Talk) 15:29, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

That would require the usage if if/elses - which is a bit complicated. What template is in question? -- Cat chi? 16:40, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
An example would be {{1911}}, although all of the Category:Attribution templates would need changed in time. Please don't change the live one! I need to arrange for a bot to copy it to the talk pages of all the articles first. If you know of an example of a template like that I can copy it from there and make a test one to play with. Angus McLellan (Talk) 16:59, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
I am no admin, I cant edit it :) I'll copy it to User:Cool Cat/1911 and edit. -- Cat chi? 17:32, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Dekteru dekteru (all done), is this what you need? -- Cat chi? 17:45, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Karam Singh

Hi - thanks for the note. i was going thru the Param Vir Chakra wiki page when i observed that there was no article for Karam Singh. I immediately pulled some material. Later when i hit the google search for additional info (details of post-PVC career etc), i came across the "NOTICE". After your message, i have corrected it some more to summarize rather than quote Indian Army website. Please review the same and let me know if this is OK. Kalyan 17:53, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] That Cheshire rename problem...

I think I figured out what the problem was. See my note for more details. -- Prove It (talk)

[edit] Request for input

Hello. Please cast a glance at my effort:

I'm sure that you have a better grounding in the topic than I :) Ta. --Mais oui! 10:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Although I love taking the credit for ideas which are not mine, I fear that felicitations in this case must belong to User:Blood Red Sandman: [[3]!
Cin cin. --Mais oui! 10:37, 4 April 2007 (UTC)]

Hi Angus,

Thank you for the help.

This was the first time i add anything on wiki...i hope im not blocked by entering unallowed material!!

But i dont seem to understand why my link was deleted from the x12 > external links.

My goal is not to get my page highly ranked, becasue it already is highly ranked within the keywords my target audience enters. The thing is that one of our custoemrs asked us:"why dont you have your product listed on wikipedia?!!"...

And upon their request I am doing so...and I have noticed that a product called "stylus studio" is on the list of the external links..and even other software product links.....so, how come they get the privilege to add there link and me NOT!...just wondering..

How can i make our software product available on wikipedia search?..Its not advertising...Its a product in the market that i want our clients to find when they search it up on wikipedia..


Another thing...I am feeling lost a bit here...what is it that i need to know about wikipedia?

1- The welcome page 2- This talk page for when i encounter a problem..?

Thank again for the help :)...

--Nadraabsi 07:37, 5 April 2007 (UTC)NadraAbsi

[edit] Iona

Congratulations on becoming the second user of Template:Infobox Scottish island! If you are inspired to do more the population rank is available at List of islands of Scotland. The area ranks are currently only available there for larger islands, but I am slowly adding to the list. South Walls is currently making a nuisance of itself and if you ever come across a verifiable land area for it I'd appreciate hearing about it. Ben MacDui (Talk) 08:31, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mea culpa

Angus I really am sorry, please forgive my sense of humour. There is an old saying in Gaelic " Is fearr Gaeilge bhriste na Bearla cliste" and 'correctness' in English or if you like 'good English' was never one of my priorities. Lughlamhfhada 14:08, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks a lot

What a coincidence, I am adding more to the sucession as we speak :) Hopefully sometime soon I will have finished with adding the main content and begin polishing it for FA. By the way, what do you think of the 'Insginia' section? I don't know what to make of it, whether it has any relevance or if I should just remove it? Thanks for the comment anyway, --A.Garnet 22:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Máel Sechnaill revisited

Thanks for the link, I really haven't looked much into FA previously. If your answer on the discussion page was "Indeed yes!" Máel Sechnaill did cooperate with the norse, then I'm not sure I can find a reference for that in AF either. The only ref. I find about MS actually having contact with them is him sending messengers to them while they are feasting on some poor norwegians (Annal FA 235).

As I see it, the present article on MSmMR is claiming he was having an alliance with the norse, as opposed to the claims in Cogadh etc that he fought them. That's the reason why I put the citation needed mark in the article. Now it seems the norse where fightinh with MS against Cinaed, while all other sources (I have seen, and that's really not very many...) claims the opposite. Finnrind 00:56, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Forgot to say thank you for your quick response.:-) I'm working on a norwegian version on Máel Sechnaill m MR, that's why I am a bit eager to get this sorted out.Finnrind 01:01, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
To be a little more specific: Do you have any objections to me editing tha Máel Sechnaill m MR article so that it no longer says that he had norse allies?? The argument about Cogadh should also be linked with the comment about Thorgest, and not the fighting of norse in general. Finnrind 10:10, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] removed links???

Hi Angus

Thanks for the help..though i didnt want to have the company's links removed because of me!!..

By the way, since I am new in internet marketing , and you have more experience in EDI..I would like to ask (Thast if you can nanswer) :" What is the best way to get my EDI product reach target audience (poeple who are searching for a product like ours?


What would you recommend?


Thanks for the help anyways..--Nadraabsi 14:24, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 1911 category

In order to keep all the information about this in one place, I've responded to your post on my talk page here. Thanks.—Chidom talk  05:54, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi Angus

I saw your RfA, but since I am boycotting the RfA for some time now, I will not vote:) I just want to let you know that I have started an arbitration request. [4] You may like to comment. Fad (ix) 06:08, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Baseball families CFD

These have been open for two weeks. They look like deletes to me. Any chance they can be closed out soon? Otto4711 14:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Won't have much time today. If they're still open tomorrow I will close them then. Angus McLellan (Talk) 17:23, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Appreciate it, thanks. Otto4711 19:07, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mael Sechnaill again

I did some additional revisions, my point was not to remove the reference to Cínaed but to clarify that MS on that particular occasion was fighting against the Norse. I hope you'll look it over and correct me if there's anything wrong.

I should have just fixed it right away, and left it to you to refix it if I had been in error. I suppose this time I was a little bit to humble, and thus made you waste some wikitime. Take it as a token of my admiration of your work here - I normally just translate articles you've written, without wasting time checking sources (as I do with others). This time there was a slight misleading (in my opinion) emphasis, which should have been clarified by myself, instead of me nagging you about. ;-) Thanks, Finnrind 23:06, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aldfrith

It looks about a million times better than how I last remember it. You should nominate it as a GA. Everyking 04:02, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

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