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This is fantastic E Pluribus Anthony! Do you think we should also have a map showing not only the core countries, but the secondary countries in a different colour, and perhaps even the tertiary countries?--Cyberjunkie | Talk 16:31, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for your comments; I thought about that! I only included the five core countries since those are indisputable. If authoritative reference(s) or a list can be cited indicating what the secondary and tertiary countries are (did I miss this?), then I'm all for it. I was also concerned, since English is a modern lingua franca of sorts, about having the map a 'sea of blue' unnecessarily and, therefore, less usable. Thusly, there also may be some overlap – and perhaps confusion – with the Commonwealth of Nations, et al. Thoughts? Thanks! E Pluribus Anthony 16:44, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

This is true. There really is no authority on the Anglosphere, and the countries which constitute it, aside from the "core" five, are a matter for contention. I suppose I was more thinking of highlighting Éire, India and others in different shades as countries identified as "prospective members" (as the article now states). But on reflection, I think perhaps you're right: such a map would be better suited to another topic/article.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 13:11, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Hello again! Hmmm: with some research, if we are to take the following at the Anglosphere Institute's website to be authoritative (wikified):

The Anglosphere, as a network civilization ... without a corresponding political form, has necessarily imprecise boundaries. Geographically, the densest nodes of the Anglosphere are found in the United States and the United Kingdom, while Anglophone regions of Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, and South Africa are powerful and populous outliers. The educated English-speaking populations of the Caribbean, Oceania, Africa and India pertain to the Anglosphere to various degrees.

Thus, by my count there are seven 'core' countries (the dense and powerful/populous outliers) in the Anglosphere. As well, there is another map depicting Anglosphone countries worldwide. If there are no objections, I'll update the article text and this map appropriately. E Pluribus Anthony 17:10, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't think Quebec should be included, neither its current or historical roots are particularly english, aside from a few montrealais enclaves.--68.250.203.153 22:38, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

I disagree with this point of view: the map depicts 'top-level' jurisdictions – countries – for ease; as cited, Canada is among them. Moreover, both English and French have equal status in all federal applications. E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 23:09, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, but why still including South Africa? It is without doubt not a country with a predominant English speaking culture. Nor is it primarily settled by anglo-saxon immigrants. Hell, not even the US is. Even among the whites in SA, it is only a minority. SA has only about 2-3 million English native speakers. That is less than 5 percent. --Lucius1976 22:36, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Just to point out that a new version had been made which shows some of the countries mentioned above --Astrokey44 13:43, 26 June 2006 (UTC)