Talk:Ancient universities of Scotland
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[edit] Dundee
I'm unclear why Dundee is on the page... if it is ancient, then it should be in the list at the top. If it is not, then it shouldn't be on the page at all?
It is certainly odd for this university (alone) to have a major heading at the top of the content of the page?
Should it be in the list, or not? - —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tim bates (talk • contribs) 14:55, 27 April 2006.
- Of course it should be included - it shares every characteristic of an ancient and is a breakaway university from an ancient which one could say continues that traditions. It was also a founding member of the former Scottish Ancients association. I don't think it should go on the list at the top unless it is with some sort of special qualification since obviously it has not been chartered for the several centuries of the others - but it would be completely idiotic not to mention this major peculiarity amongst this group of universities.
- To clarify though, Dundee isn't commonly referred to an ancient (although it does occasionally happen and there was quite an argument about it on the UoD discussion page) but will usually be included when discussing ancients in any sort of way. --Breadandcheese 04:22, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
- Regarding your comment that it is odd to be included. Dundee is included precisely because it is odd. It's a breakaway from St. Andrews making it govern by the Universities (Scotland) Act 1896. It is generally included in discussion of ancients because a lot of what distinguish ancients from others applies to Dundee as well. -- KTC 13:00, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
- I would also like to add that Dundee was also founded via an order in council as opposed to an act of parliament as is usual with modern universities. In addition everything that defines an ancient as an ancient (aside from age) is as a result of being goverened under the univerties scotland act. (Some might even say that being goverened under that particular act IS what defines an ancient) Dundee being goverened under the act therefore shares all the defining features. Dundee is an ancient in all defining features but age. -- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 134.36.37.173 (talk • contribs) 19:19, 30 April 2006.
I think what is odd is that it mentions the Law School individually in the Dundee section. The UofD took quite a few noteworthy departments away from St Andrews: dentistry, the Medical School (although St Andrews created a new one I believe they have to run it in Manchester for half of the degree as a result of having no hospital facilities to hand etc) and so forth. I'm not saying it should be removed, I'm just saying that it is odd to pick it out particularly for inclusion. --Breadandcheese 14:49, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Statutory requirement
I've put a note on the discussion page about Students' Representative Council (Scotland), but just in case somebody here knows about this: this article states that SRCs are required by statute. Is this still, precisely, the case? Aberdeen SA — according to the Constitution posted on its website, here — has changed from having an SRC to a "Students' Association Council". – Kieran T (talk | contribs) 23:23, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
