User talk:Amnewsboy

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[edit] Supermarket Sweep

I assume that Geauga TV crap was what you had in mind? Lambertman 16:34, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Yeah -- what's up with that, anyway? Amnewsboy 01:07, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia user page conduct

What's up? -- cds(talk) 11:56, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply! A fellow Wikipedian is putting up links to "bogus" articles on his user page. Essentially, they're pages from Wikipedia, tweaked in a "what-if" kind of scenario. (They mainly deal with "what if so-and-so television station was bought by somebody else? What would their history would be like?") They're marked (in large letters) as "NOT A REAL ARTICLE", but they are still accessible through Google and such (which is how I found them.) I couldn't find any kind of protocol or precedent for such a thing in the help pages, and am leery of approaching him about it (because he's currently invovled in several uncivil conflicts right now). Are these pages OK, and if not, what would need to be done next? Amnewsboy 14:38, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
If the pages are in his own user space (For example, if I was to make [[User:9cds/WikipediaSux!], then that's allowed. Of course, if it was anything illegal then that would be a totally different issue. -- cds(talk) 14:45, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
The pages aren't ILLEGAL, per se... they contain deliberately false information, but also have a giant header that says "THIS ISN'T REAL." Should I provide a link? Amnewsboy 14:51, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
You can do, but I think they'll be fine. -- cds(talk) 14:54, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Compare the user's Alternate History WDAF and the real page at WDAF-TV. I wouldn't raise such a fuss, but that IS accessible by Google and all. I'll defer to your call. :) Amnewsboy 14:59, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Ah, they're pretty much accepted as fine, since it's in his user area. They have actually been nominated for deletion, but not enough people cared :) -- cds(talk) 15:04, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Gah -- that kind of situation is exactly what I would like to avoid. Thanks for the help! Amnewsboy 15:11, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Television Stations Local Talent

I think they should stay. Some reporters do move on to bigger and better pastures, such as CNN or CBC Newsworld, and the other way around, too. User:Raccoon Fox - Talk 18:30, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AETN callsign meanings

The calls have to mean something... CoolKatt number 99999 04:37, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Not necessarily, no. AETN says that the letters for KETS PROBABLY stood for "Educational Television Station", and that the other stations were kept as consistent as possible -- but that there is nothing concrete to back it up. Wiki isn't a place for speculation. Amnewsboy 04:46, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
As far as I am concerned, callsign meanings that make sense are not speculation. CoolKatt number 99999 04:57, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
If they're not factually correct (as in -- confirmed by the station, in either branding or history), even if they make sense, they shouldn't belong here. We can't just make up these things for them. Amnewsboy 05:08, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for investigation processed

Hello Amnewsboy. Please note that your recent request for investigation concerning CoolKatt number 99999 has been processed. The administrator's response was: "Archived; CoolKatt number 99999 doesn't seem to have added any further speculative information to articles since the last message, and their edits appear to be in good faith.". This is a form notification, and this page has not been watchlisted; if you'd like to comment, please do so on my talk page. Thank you. // [admin] Pathoschild (talk/map) 04:49, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

RFI's can cause collateral damage - your RFI against me got me blocked. Next time, think before causing collateral damage. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by CoolKatt number 99999 (talk • contribs) 00:26, July 20, 2006.
The block that affected you was not collateral damage, since you were deliberately blocked. Please do not chastice other users for notifying administrators of your actions; instead, respect the policies and guidelines applicable on Wikipedia. // [admin] Pathoschild (talk/map) 01:07, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Amnewsboy and yes, you did come across as a rat CoolKatt number 99999 02:30, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
As I said on your page, you are free to file one if you wish. I would simply point out that had you followed WP:V and other applicable policies, this whole mess wouldn't have started. I refuse to talk about this matter on my talk page any further, and have taken it up on the RfC page instead. Amnewsboy 04:29, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


Hello Amnewsboy. Please note that your recent request for investigation concerning CoolKatt number 99999 has been archived. The administrator commented "A request for arbitration has been filed and accepted, so this request is no longer needed". Thank you. // [admin] Pathoschild (talk/map) 15:07, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My nomination

I humbly accept. Lambertman 02:03, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

So much for that. :) No worries. Lambertman 13:01, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
On the bright side -- there are a lot of positive comments about you there. So, we'll just try it again in a few months or so. Amnewsboy 13:02, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/CoolKatt_number_99999

Hello,

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/CoolKatt_number_99999. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/CoolKatt_number_99999/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/CoolKatt_number_99999/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --Tony Sidaway 00:53, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


Hey Amnewsboy, instead of presenting the current status of the page, please provide diffs instead, thanks. --CFIF (talk to me) 02:17, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up... although it does mean digging through his history... great... ;-) Amnewsboy 02:19, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:IDBBCA2005.jpg

Hi. I was just wondering if you knew the source for where you got the above image from or whether you captured it yourself. Either way, could you enter this onto the image description page. THanks for your help. Wikiwoohoo 17:52, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I captured myself; I'll put that in ASAP. Amnewsboy 21:30, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Great, thanks! Wikiwoohoo 18:19, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 50 Greatest Table

It is definitely an improvement. My one nitpick: instead of asterisking the shows that weren't aired, I might think an italicized (not aired) or something similar in the description field would be a little easier to read. But that's just me. Lambertman 16:35, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Test

I'm testing the new Wikipedia Firefox toolbar I have -- to see if it will do things like bold or italicize or even link Lambertman's 's user page. --Amnewsboy 03:44, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WCBI-TV

I did some cleaning... is there anything else you think should go? · XP · 22:11, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I think it looks fine (thanks immensely!)... but the WBWP part -- if we don't know who owns them, why are they included in the article? Amnewsboy 05:01, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Good point; I missed that. Check it out now: WCBI-TV. · XP · 06:52, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Looks good! :) Amnewsboy 07:12, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 39th Street/Volker Neighborhood

Hmm.. it's interesting that the area is served by the Volker Neighborhood Association. However, is there any documentation that anyone actually refers to the 39th street area as the Volker Neighborhood? I've only ever heard that term used to describe the areas along, and just to the south of, Volker Blvd... --Reverend Loki 17:30, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not 100% sure. I know there are neighborhood banners over there that say "Volker Neighborhood" (much like the ones in Hyde Park, for example), but don't know if it's on paper anywhere. Amnewsboy 00:47, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Strike It Rich

there's a start. It was a pretty decent show as I recall, but around here it aired after Nightline so I usually missed it. Lambertman 18:34, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Helping other users

I've noticed that a user is making dozens of individual edits to an article, rather than making them all at once (and saving them, thus cluttering up the history)[1]. The user doesn't have a talk page of their own -- is it permissible for me to start one to let them know? Amnewsboy 15:44, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, certainly. Cheers, Tangotango 15:45, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I was mistaken (they do have a talk page), but I do thank you for letting me know just the same. Amnewsboy 15:53, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Finders Keepers

The online schedules for Nick GAS are wrong. It is up to the television network to notify them when there is a change which Nickelodeon obviously didn't do because they could care less about Nick GAS. If you tune in at the times Finder Keepers is suppose to air you will see that it is not played, but Legends of the Hidden Temple or Figure it Out is. Tazz765 15:24, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Problem is, not only are online schedules saying that FK is on (in the middle of the night, but still on the schedule), but DVRs show it on their schedule as well. Even if it's not actually AIRING, it still causes a WP:V problem. If it's being listed on schedules but NOT airing, you should probably note that in the article, and provide a way to independently verify that. Amnewsboy 15:50, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nick GaS (Helpme)

The page for Nick GaS keeps being vandalized by an anon IP every couple of days or so -- not consistently enough for it to be considered for semi-protect, but it still requires reverting whenever it happens. What remedies are available at this point? Amnewsboy 16:18, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Not much I'm afraid the IP address being used seems to be within a limited range but does change, blocking that range of IPs could cause collateral damage so is not something we are likely to do unless the vandalism was far more serious. The best thing to do is continue what you have been doing, add it to your watchlist and revert as necessary. --pgk 17:14, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About Mythbusters...

Well, I understand what you are saying, but if Mythbusters said pigs flying is plausible, but their reasoning was false, would that justify stating that pigs flying is plausible on the Mythbusters page? Can I put a note on there that that says see discussions for possible error? or something along those lines? Rewt241

I'm not even sure that would work... simply because the article is meant to recap what happened in the episode -- not whether or not the results are accurate. Otherwise, we run the risk of starting an edit war and/or turning this into the Mythbusters message board. --Amnewsboy 14:27, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Intelligentsia Coffee & Tea

I have reverted your edits. I invite you to engage in a discussion if you have a reason to contest the companies excellence and thus the propriety of this action. TonyTheTiger 22:20, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I am reviewing the article looking for weasel words. The first sentence uses the words "highly esteemed", which seems to be backed up by the second sentence and the honors section. If you want to edit the 3rd sentence, I think another editor might express my sentiment better than me. The 4th sentence uses the words "well known", which I think is backed up by the reference. I still would not call the 3rd sentence an example of weaseling. Please be specific. TonyTheTiger 16:36, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sandra Lee

I got her last name from IMDB [2]which is used as a source in many other Film and Television articles. With that info I was able to confirm what was written at IMDB. Let me know if this makes a difference in your choice to leave out her last name from the article. How could there be an encyclopedia article on an important person, when you only know their first and middle name. In my view the entire article should go bye-bye, if you can’t even come up with her birth name. (That’s a slight over the top remark.) However, I hope you understand my point. knowpedia 18:09, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Local Personalities

Thanks for helping out with the debate on local personalities... I'm finding that it's become a touchy subject.User:Kerusso and someone at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Susan Peters (TV anchor) have taken exception to the AfD's... and it's totally not about the article / author / anchor in question; I hope we can all reach a good consensus that we can all live with. Amnewsboy 09:10, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Amnewsboy,
I'm sort of ambivalent on these AFDs. On the one hand, a lot of these folks hardly seem notable. But then, "notable" is always slightly subjective. The Professor Test indicates most on-air station personalities are notable, in the sense that they would be more widely recognized (by name, sight, or voice) in their DMA than a local college professor. At the same time, can Wikipedia effectively patrol hundreds (or potentially thousands) of such articles? It's clear we need a guideline; until one is in place, those who have written articles which are nominated for AFD may well take deletion personally, because no comprehensive guideline can be cited. So to some users, it will appear "personal", an unfortunate effect. Firsfron of Ronchester 14:21, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree, and although I think I'm effectively presenting legitimate arguments, I can understand why it's being taken as such. For my part, I think I goofed by AFD'ing before trying to establish guidelines, but hope that things are getting mended. Amnewsboy 14:57, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
We just need a "stroke of genius"-type idea that will please everyone, or at least be comprehensive and apply to any situation while still upholding the basic Wikipedia principles at WP:BIO... So why haven't you thought of it yet? ;) Firsfron of Ronchester 15:07, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Local Personalities

Thanks for helping out with the debate on local personalities... I'm finding that it's become a touchy subject.User:Kerusso and someone at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Susan Peters (TV anchor) have taken exception to the AfD's... and it's totally not about the article / author / anchor in question; I hope we can all reach a good consensus that we can all live with. Amnewsboy 09:09, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

AfDs are always a touchy thing. I've been on the receiving end of a few lately, and it's easy to allow yourself to think that it's you who are being rejected - that your hard work is being trashed. I'm just not a big fan of deleting existing articles. I've written quite a few myself that today I probably wouldn't write, but I'd much rather see someone try to improve them and bring them up to standard if possible, than to delete them. I could sense Kerusso's offense even in his response on WT:TVS and my first thought was "after we spent some time trying to bring ideas to the discussion, he has a lot of nerve simply trashing them without offering alternatives." Fortunately, I backed off that sentiment before I put anything down on the talk page. As I wrote there, we may end up not coming to any consensus, but it's still worth raising the issue for discussion. dhett 03:29, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Interview for a public radio show

Hi there,

My name is Neille Ilel and I'm a producer with a national public radio show called Weekend America. We want to do a story on the fine line between an individual who deserves an entry on Wikepedia and one who doesn't. As someone who's weighed in on the issue, I was hoping you might be able to chat over the phone for a few minutes.

We're a conversational show and want to have a relatively laid-back discussion about what goes on in Wikipedia, just to let you know that this isn't a debate-type show where we encourage fighting.

If you're up for it, or if you have any questions, you can e-mail me at nilel (at) marketplace (dot) org to set something up.

[http://weekendamerica.publicradio.org/ ] Thanks! Neille

Neille i 22:31, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Neille! If I don't catch you first, please drop me an eMail and we'll discuss it further. :) Amnewsboy 03:11, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WHAG-TV

Good Morning! While I understand that Wiki is not a directory, I feel that these people are part of the newscast. Ms. Fountain and Ms. Myers are featured on WHAG's website, while Mr. Myers and Mr. Brown are not, they were once. The latter mentioned though are part of the newsteam (at least in my opinion).

Since listed on the website, the former could remain on the Wiki page, and the latter removed....would that be a happy medium?

Rock on...SVRTVDude 17:11, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Heya, that'll work :o) If someone does come through with the same mindset, then I (or you if you ya beat me to it) can take down those four names. Also, I did update the page a little. I added the new website and an entry in the history page and seperated the news, weather, sports, and off-air teams has I did with the WHSV and TV3 Winchester pages. I think it makes it look a little more tidy.
Rock on....SVRTVDude 19:00, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hearst Corporation

How can you remove the Class Action Lawsuit info on the Hearst Corporation page? This is legitimate content. /Timneu22 22:56, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WKYT-TV

Am I wrong for thinking that including every single person who works at the station shouldn't belong in this article? I removed it once, and it was promptly put back by the original author of the article... I hesitate to remove them again because a) I don't want to be seen as inciting an edit war, and b) I nominated Scholastic Ball Report for deletion (another article he authored) because it doesn't establish notability (it doesn't seem any different to me than any other local sports program). Thoughts? Amnewsboy 18:01, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree the bottom half of the article looks more like the list of credits at the end of a program than an encyclopedia article. I appreciate the care you've taken in trying to avoid an edit war. I'm going to bring this up on the article's talk page, to see if we can't establish a consensus we can all live with. Firsfron of Ronchester 00:24, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] WTAE

Saturday morning programming...ok, ya got me there.:) But some of the information could be valueable. Once I get this one article done, I will go through and read it more throughly and edit the kinda goofy things and leave in the more significant items and let you have a read of it. I will let you know when I get that done....should be within the next hour. - SVRTVDude 06:47, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

All right, gave it a once over....I left most of the news-related information. Took out the cartoons and pre-empted The View or whatever (mostly cause alot of stations did, nothing to write home about). Give it a once-over and let me know if further changes need to be made, if so, PM me and I will be glad to make them. - SVRTVDude 07:47, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
You have a point on the anchor thing, so I nixed it. I also took out the actual word-for-word part of the "Hello News" jingle putting in it's place links to SouthernMedia and the audio versions of the actual jingle. - SVRTVDude 09:48, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
You're Welcome....glad I could help. Let me know if you ever need anymore help with any other stations, be it radio or TV. Stay warm....SVRTVDude 10:07, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Indiana State News Center and Discussion

This totally needs to be DB'ed (it's nothing but promoting her vlog), but after looking at the actual blog, I'm not sure if I wanna be the one who DB's it. Thoughts? Amnewsboy 08:44, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deleted, as it's a tripod member's site whose article makes no assertion of notability. As such, it meets the Criteria for Speedy Deletion - Article 7. Firsfron of Ronchester 21:52, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] WCCB-TV

The rumor about Cy Bahakel's alleged right-wing ties has floated around Charlotte for years, apparently with no actual evidence. Of course, that doesn't stop some people from spreading it. Thanks for catching and removing it from the WCCB entry. JTRH 23:40, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] WVLA

I'm having an issue with another user on this page; the user is an anon IP, and continues to re-add material that violates WP:NOT and/or doesn't really add much substance to the article. I've left a note on their talk page offering to discuss it there or on the article's talk page, neither of which were accepted. I don't want to get into an edit war about it. What are my options at this point? Amnewsboy 08:19, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

The IP seems to have stopped several hours ago. If it keeps up without communicating, take it to WP:AN/I. John Reaves (talk) 08:25, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks -- I always like to get guidance in situations like this. :) Amnewsboy 08:27, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey Invitation

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[edit] KAMR

Hey, FoR... I received a message from User:Kida97 about the KAMR article. (She sent it to me over LiveJournal; I'm guessing she doesn't know how to use talk pages.) The gist of it is that she believes non on-air staff should still be listed in the article because they (the station employees, collectively) wanted to leave it there - regardless of whether or not the same information is listed on other TV station articles.

I left her a message on her talk page, explaining why I did what I did, why I believe it falls under WP:LC, and how it may also bring up a WP:COI issue as well.

I do want to make sure that I did the right thing in removing the lists in the first place. Please take a look at the situation and let me know. Thanks! Amnewsboy 03:54, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Am,
I've left a friendly note on her talk page. Yes, listcruft should absolutely be removed. On-air personalities are borderline notable (some articles have been deleted, some have been retained), but off-air staff rarely pass WP:N. We're building an encyclopedia, and these sorts of lists aren't really conducive to that. I never saw a janitor listed on a TV station article, but I did see some secretaries. These folks help keep the station running, but are not notable by themselves: a local resident in Idaho wouldn't recognize them from their work at the station. Drop by my talk page at any time. Best wishes and happy editing, Firsfron of Ronchester 04:49, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sky 12

They didn't own the chopper (as most small station don't) but it was Sky 12. I thought it was weird that they didn't have anything on the NBC12 site either. Oddly, no links on WTVR, WRIC or WWBT about the story....none on WBOC or WMDT for a follow-up. An updated version of the story (via the WBOC link I gave) shows the pilot, Kara Dewitt, does work for NBC12. I am not sure how you would like to go with this since only WBOC has only report (though slightly updated) and nothing on the Richmond stations. - SVRTVDude (Yell - Toil) 20:14, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, I have two links...oddly, only from the Salisbury Daily Times (couldn't find a link in the Richmond Times-Dispatch). [3] and [4] are the links from the Daily Times in Salisbury. There were blurbs on DCRTV.com and VARTV.com, the Radio and TV news and information sites in DC and Norfolk (serves Richmond) respectfully. I wish I could find a link in the Richmond paper, but their site is just too hard to use. Hope this helps. I will keep looking though. - SVRTVDude (Yell - Toil) 07:59, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
These are pictures of the chopper from the Lewes, DE Fire Dept. website [5] That link was on DCRTV.com as well. - SVRTVDude (Yell - Toil) 11:01, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I got a little nuts with the linkage sometimes:) - SVRTVDude (Yell - Toil) 21:12, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WYMT-TV

Hey, I looked over the WP:TVS page and the talk page and I didn't see what you were saying about off-air staff (that list was done by a WYMT staffer, by the way) though I do skim the page so I may have missed it. I reverted for the time-being...could you please post the link and I will re-revert. The WYMT staffer and I keep that list as up-to-date as humanly possible, so it is accurate (even though the IP user likes to mess with it). Please let me know on the WP:TVS rule and I will re-revert. My apologizes ahead of time if I reverted something that is actually in the rules. - SVRTVDude (Yell - Toil) 07:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

If you and Firsfron have reached a consensus with others, I don't want to step on anyone's toes. I probably overlooked the posts about it (I skim the page sometimes too fast) but if you all want to talk about it, please let me know what the final consensus is or if I did indeed overlook something in the talk page. Again, I don't want to step on anyone's toes. (a list with a janitor...that's funny! janitor must have been honored though) - SVRTVDude (Yell - Toil) 08:16, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] KAMR-TV (again)

Hey, FoF... the KAMR-TV article is still being reverted back to the addition of the station's producing staff... at least 2 or 3 times since the topic was brought up the last time. I think what annoys me more at this point is that there's not a willingness to discuss the matter -- the pages are simply being reverted without talking about it anywhere. I don't think the lists belong there (as per policy), but I'm willing to listen -- the problem is, nobody there is willing to talk. What can be done now? Amnewsboy 07:23, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi Newsboy!
This is a very good start. It seems likely an editor will have to see this when s/he edits the article. If this fails, a politely-worded e-mail to the station (using the proper templates or something which addresses WP:COI and WP:N) might work better. Firsfron of Ronchester 07:49, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
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