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[edit] FAQ

Before reporting problems, please check to see if the solution is already in the FAQ. If you are experiencing long reply times, you may get a faster response at amidaniel.com, or in the VP forums.

[edit] Can't Get Vandal Proof to Work

When I open up Vandal Proof, all I get is a message that says Retrieving User List, please wait, but nothing else happens, is this a bug? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. --Katieh5584 10:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I have discovered that the problems are being caused by Norton Internet Security 2005, has anyone else had similar problems. Its driving me crazy!! --Katieh5584 20:52, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I have Norton Internet Security 2005, and I had no problems. You could try disabling the firewall part while you are connecting, or creating a rule for it. It should have, however, done so automatically. Ale_Jrbtalk 07:08, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
I have tried creating a rule for VP, but it still won't work and I don't like turning off the firewall.--Katieh5584 18:34, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Are you sure there is no other firewall software that could be blocking it? You could also try re-installing Norton. This would have the effect of cleaning out the rules list, so it would ask for confirmation for everything again and you could make sure that you set it to allow, just in case it is hiding under a different name. Ale_Jrbtalk 14:32, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
No, I have only got the one firewall and I have just tried re-installing Norton, but it makes no difference!--Katieh5584 19:11, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Does it work if you disable the firewall though? Have you tried? Ale_Jrbtalk 20:27, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes it does work, but it wouldn't be a good idea to be connected to the internet without a firewall turned on!--Katieh5584 20:37, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Change of username

I've changed my username from Fracture98 to SineWave. Could I get you to update the userlist to match, please and thanks? Oh, and perhaps do me a favor and delete this comment once you're done so there's less of an obvious trail. I'll know you've changed it when I see my new ID in the approved user list. sinewaveTalk   22:53, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] arrr tis not work

I get a script error on line 525 when I log in -- "Object not found" (or maybe it's "Object expected"). url == http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:AmiDaniel/Welcome_to_VandalProof&oldid=77781094 In addition I can't get it to do anything except import the list of admins. Anybody know anything about this? This is with my firewall off. Herostratus 20:38, 27 September 2006 (UTC) I think this is a issue with javascript Disable it in Internet explorer. Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 04:37, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Script error

Whenever I go on any page while using VP, there is a "script error" message continuously popping up. I tried what it said in the FAQ, but that didn't work. Any help? --TheGreatLlama (speak to the Llama!) 00:16, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Recent changes is not ever updating... The Fox Man of Fire 12:06, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CrossOver Linux

Hey, just a quick tip, (this might not be the right section): Vandalproof runs flawlessly on CrossOver Linux, except with one speedy deletion bug I've found. CrossOver is currently available for free download, and the beta lasts for 60 days. All you need to do is install the Internet Explorer 6.0 and the OLE Component packages, and you're up and running! Shadow1 (talk) 23:44, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

It also works with CrossOver for Mac (Intel only). Well..sorta. It doesn't load the login page thingy and doesn't get any recent changes. Meh. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (T | C | @) 01:00, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Crashes

I can't get VandalProof to work properly at all. When I open the program, all I can see is "$$LOGONMESSAGE$$", then it freezes, and I have to kill the process. What can I do to get it to work right? I'm using v1.2.2, and I've tried to fix it by clearing my monobook.js. -- Selmo (talk) 00:32, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User list retrieval: snails pace

Hey, does anyone have a problem with retrieving a user list? mine sometimes will either

  1. Not retrieve it at all, or
  2. Take 50 million years to do it. To be realistic, 1-2 minutes.

It's very frustrating, because you can sometimes see obvious vanadalism, and not be able to click any of the rollback buttons because they only become available when the list is retrieved. --Reaper X 19:20, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Loading of page

Hi - I don't know if this issue has been raised earlier, but I have the problem that the rollback tools don't load until all the images are displayed. This creates a real delay even though I have DSL connection. (1) Is there a way to get round this ? (2) How good is the idea that you enable rollback just when the diffs are available, instead of waiting to loading the whole page. Rama's arrow 23:04, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

You can disable image loading by disabling 'picture loading' in IE prefs, the far right tab called 'advanced' i think. really helps load time. JoeSmack Talk(p-review!) 05:28, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not being recognized

The program keeps telling me that my log-in request failed when I go to the start page; however, it still greets me by my username. I can't click any of the buttons or tabs in the browser either; they're all grayed out. --Jitterro 00:53, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I just installed VP, and I'm getting the same problem. --MrBoo (talk, contribs) 00:59, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm experiencing the same problem. →DancingPenguin 02:15, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Same issue here as well. TheRanger 02:31, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Me 5. Leuko 21:07, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Help us login... help us help you! Dekimasu 05:22, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Same here--Gregorof 02:18, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
<AOL>Me too.</AOL> I was put on the "approved" list a few days ago and am guessing a database of approved users needs to be updated. Raymond Arritt 02:45, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I am still locked out. TheRanger says that we may need to be given access to 1.3 in order to use the program. Dekimasu 14:52, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I had this problem just now. I tried closing and reopening and it worked. Ho hum. Still using 1.2.2--NHSavage 18:48, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Hasn't worked for me. I'm still experiencing the same problems as before. For now, I'm reverting vandalism and warning vandals the hard way, but still... --Jitterro 02:38, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Will this ever be fixed, or should we just give up on VandalProof? It's been several weeks now. Are there similar tools available that are actually maintained? Raymond Arritt 04:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
I left a message on AmiDaniel's talk page two days ago, and have received no response, nor has he responded here. AmiDaniel has made a few edits in the last couple of days, including one since I left my message, so obviously he's ignoring them. I'm ready to give up. --MrBoo (talk, contribs) 12:06, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

OK, it's been a week and a half now, and still nothing. I did notice that if I go to this page in my browser, my user name does not appear in the list of users. If I go to this page, my user name does appear. Could that be part of the problem? --MrBoo (talk, contribs) 13:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Please leave a note if you are expericeing VP this and please leave what Vp version you have. Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 04:35, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
1.2.2, WinXP SP2 (using boot camp 1.1.3). Says "request failed" and greets me by name. O_o --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (T | C | @) 03:37, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Using Version 1.2.2, am not being recognised — Editor at Large(speak) 01:33, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
VP 1.3.5 I can login to Wiki but I can't be verified as a VP user. -edit- I just downloaded an older version 1.3.1 and it seems to work. Yossiea (talk) 15:04, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] VP 1.3

Is version 1.3 going to be released soon? --דניאל - Danielrocks123 contribs Count 21:25, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Feature query

Hey, I see that in the screenshot, VandalProof says "<IP> has recieved no vandalism warnings." I'm looking to improve my own anti-vandalism app WikiGuard, and I'm curious as to how you did this. Any help in that direction would be most appreciated. :) --BradBeattie 05:57, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

If I understood well, VP scans the User Talk and recognizes parts of each test template. Hope that helps! -- lucasbfr talk 00:42, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

That does help, thanks! I saw in the Later Versions section that a Mac version would be desired. I'm not entirely sure what the code base of VP is and how portable it would be, so I just decided to start building something myself.

I'm curious as to how it's grabbing its information that isn't polled from the IRC channel at browne.wikimedia.org. Does it have a direct read-only link to the wikipedia databases or is it grabbing and parsing its information through the web? --Brad Beattie (talk) 03:09, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Problem with automatic warning generation

First off: I am not a VandalProof user, and I'm not especially familiar with it. I've seen VP users leaving inappropriate warnings on user pages along these lines: 1) User adds an insult to an article. I revert, and leave a warning that doesn't use an official test template. For instance, "If you post any more insults I'm going to block you." 2) User puts the insult back in the same article, and a VP user comes around and leaves a friendly, welcoming Test1 message. This seems kind of silly to me. Maybe it's only a small percentage of cases, but VP users and designers need to be aware that the test templates are not the only way of warning users. Perhaps the software could be modified so that if there are messages on the offending user's talk page that are not recognized as test templates, it shows the user talk page to the VP user and gives them a chance to use their discretion about what message to leave. The idea that VP is enforcing the use of the test templates is worrying to me. FreplySpang 13:46, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Vandal Proof has other user warnings that the user can issue. However, my concern with your example is that you warn a user first time with "If you post any more insults I'm going to block you." if it were a mistake or a new user that is not a very friendly welcome, I feel it is very important to assume good faith in the first warning. Also for someone to actually be block it calls for 3 warnings and vandalism after the last warning. Vandal Proof also allows a user to leave a custom warning that they write as well. Just my thoughts on the issue, hope it gives you a better idea of how things work from a Vandal Proof user stand point. In any case thanks for your help in the fight to keep wikipedia vandalism free and the best it can be!! TheRanger 14:20, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
I wanted to keep the posted example brief and clear. For the most part I actually do post friendlier warnings before bringing out the big guns. I even use the official test templates when they are relevant. But the same issue applies there too. Note, though, that it is not actually required to leave exactly three warnings before blocking. If a user has posted "Joe Smith is a FAG, his phone number is XXX-YYY-ZZZZ, call him and tell him he's a COCKSUCKER" to ten articles, I don't feel too much pressure to be friendly! FreplySpang 14:27, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Oh ok I see what your saying, in those case I have issued a final warning or a custom warning. However, as you say it would be a good option to see other comments and respond based on that. The speed at which pages can be check with a tool like Vandal Proof helps greatly in the fight of the vandal. Thanks for your points and help in the battle. TheRanger 16:05, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
In such situations, I always skip test1. I too find it silly to give a "thank you for experimenting" when it is clear that the vandal is not experimenting. I sometimes would like to leave custom messages, but am not yet familiar with editing VP options for that. Prometheus-X303- 20:28, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Minor Edits / Watch this Page

By default, my edits in VP are being marked as minor & user talk pages default to "watch this page" in autosubmit. I can't seem to find where to change these defaults (if that's possible). (Although maybe I should've been marking reverts as "minor" all along ...) Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks! SkerHawx 21:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

You can disable the 'watch this page' box from being checked by default if you created the page in Wikipedia preferences. JoeSmack Talk(p-review!) 05:30, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:UW User warning harmonisation

Hi, Some of you may be aware that a few of us have started a program to harmonise all user page templates and messages. We have listed a number of ideas that we are looking at and are very keen to have your involvement, if only to discuss possible impacts with your software. Currently we are just trying to get ideas, but we will start implementing ideas early next week. If you could just take 5 mins to look through the main project page, the ideas page and it's talk page, and let us know your thoughts, that would be greatly appreciated. Regards Khukri (talk . contribs) 14:56, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Approval

I was removed from the Awaiting Approval list and given a message on my talk page saying I've been approved, but this message had another user's name on it, and I'm not on the list of registered users. Probably because of this, I can't get VP to work. Archibald99 19:07, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Post a note on my talk page saying you cant use VP and list the version you are using. Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 04:32, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not working

I used to be a frequent user of VandalProof until a long wikibreak I took. Since then, a new version has been released and also a patch. I have downloaded the new version and patch, and renamed the file .exe, and all the things I should have done. It no longer gives me the window saying that I have not downloaded the newest version and it registers as v1.2.2, but it freezes up and wont let me on. My username is entered correctly and I am still on the registered users list. Any help would be appreciated. -- ßottesiηi (talk) 19:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your log-in request failed

I suddenly get this message after months of VP-ing. Rather strangely, it appears just above "Welcome to VandalProof, Mr Stephen!". The main tabs are greyed out, so there's nothing doing. I see it on two computers, so it's probably not cookie or cache related. I cleared monobooks & reinstalled popups, but no change. Any ideas? Mr Stephen 10:16, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Further to that...I left a note earlier on the bug page as I am having the same problem. My start up screen says: Welcome to VandalProof %u!. I am not sure who %u! is??? Maybe it always said that and I' just slow :) . Any help would be great. Thanks! Anger22 12:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
My VP does exactly the same to me, I just can't log in. Michaelas10 (T|C) 19:02, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I am logging in the way I always have, however now I get a screen that says (click to enlarge):
--NMChico24 09:37, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
I just got that for the first time today too. --דניאל - Danielrocks123 contribs 01:56, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Not only am I getting that, but it will frequently freeze before it hits that screen, saying "Vandalproof has encountered a problem and needs to close", assumign it didn't freeze first. --Wizardman 03:41, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I am not getting the message about login failed but it is freezing on me and sometimes closing with "Vandalproof has encountered a problem and needs to close". I get the usual two messages: "connecting please wait", "retrieving user list please wait", but then absolutely nothing. The rest of wikipedia is working for me so I am flumoxed. Any ideas out there?--NHSavage 21:07, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
I am having the same problem as some other folks: the tab list is greyed out, and eventually I eventually get an error message that sayd VandalProof has encountered an error and will shut down. I've been using VandalProof for months with no problems... until now. Firsfron of Ronchester 02:34, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm having the same problem. Rama's arrow 17:41, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Ditto. and for weeks now the login fails and the app crashes. I can hardly use it anymore. It's hardly worth trying to use anymore. When is the months-long promised major upgrade coming. Rlevse 17:43, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm also unable to login. I've installed 1.2.2, it even shows up as 1.2.2 and greets my name, but it says that I might not be logged in properly. All the buttons are frozen, I can't do anything. Dionyseus 19:51, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
If you are using VP 1.2.2 Please come to my talk page and Leave a message. Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 04:27, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey guys, I'm sorry about all this -- I've been away from the Wiki for sometime, but I'm now kinda sorta back. I'm going to try to put out 1.3.1, where these issues should have been resolved, this weekend. Sorry for the inconvenience, but thank you for your patience! AmiDaniel (talk) 10:35, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VandalProof

How do I open VandalProof again after I have closed it? •Sean•gorter•(T) (P) 00:12, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Go to the place where you installed VP and click on the executable. ;) --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (T | C | @) 03:27, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

I need someone to revert to older edit vandalism made on article Imelda Marcos made by user 203.111.234.54 on 1 Nov 2006.thanks! KaElin 01:05, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ongoing Issue - "Help Us Help You" (Dekimasu)

For some reason my name has been removed from the list of authorized users. I was added by Betacommand here [1], and he welcommed me here[2]. I had difficulties using it, did everything I could myself, was unable to, so I requested assistance here [3]. Instead of assistance, I was removed from the list. Because I have had difficulties on wikipedia recieving help from administrators when requested, this message is in essence a generic template I am writing on all moderators' talk pages and discussion boards in the hopes of recieving if nothing else a response - ideally, however, a solution. Thank you very much and apologies for my impatience. Gregorof/(T) 05:14, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

--Gregorof/(T) 06:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)Thanks a lot beta. =)

[edit] Recent changes

I'm using version 1.3. I can't seem to get the Recent Changes tab to work. I can select a frequency to update, and I can click Update or Start (depending on which frequency is selected), but no recent changes are ever displayed. Everything else seems to work. What can I do? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by WODUP (talk • contribs).

Look under your preferences om WP and see if you have enhanced recent changes enabled if you do disable. Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 04:29, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
I do not have enhanced recent changes selected. I even cleared my monobook.js, but I still don't see recent changes on VP.  WODUP  Gobble Gobble! 06:50, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Breaking news: I tinkered with the settings, and I was able to get the RC to work only be unchecking Use RSS Feed.  WODUP  Gobble Gobble! 01:05, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
It was the same for me. --דניאל - Danielrocks123 contribs 01:42, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unable to get past Connect to VandalProof

I just recently downloaded VandalProof, but I am unable to get anywhere. I open the executable file, which opens a dialog box titled "Connect to VandalProof." It asks for a username and password, and it automatically recognizes my log-in. I click "Login to VP," which seems to work, then the button "Verify Authorization" is able to be clicked, so I do so. At this point nothing happens. I'm not sure if I need to download something else (the help page mentions "dll's", which I don't know anything about), or what is going on. Help?

--Benwildeboer 18:17, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Got it...sorry...should've spent more time checking it out. --Benwildeboer 18:45, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not on user list

I was on the approved list (see eg [4]) but have been removed. Is this due to some blunder I have made? roundhouse 13:08, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] View

Hi, I recently updated my vandalproof and it seems that I can't get it to show the current and last edits side by side, only the current edit. How do I get the current and last edit to be loaded simultaneously when I click on the article name? Benjaminstewart05:-) 18:29, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User List Error

Vandalproof worked perfectly for me for the past couple of days, and I really like it, but just today an error popped up. When I click "Verify Authorization" to access it, I get an error message telling me that I am not on the users list. I know that I'm authorized, so can a moderator look into this for me? Thanks. I c e d K o l a (Contributions) 21:17, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Update: Now I'm getting an error message that's saying "The Userlist is corrupt. Please contact a moderator to have it repaired." --I c e d K o l a (Contributions) 21:43, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm getting the same error message. Eron 22:05, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Same here. Ddcc 22:26, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok, now it's going back to the original message I recieved telling me I'm not on the user list. I c e d K o l a (Contributions) 04:19, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Won't let me in

When I try to log into VandalProof 1.3, it says that I am not on the user list. What's going on? --AAA! (talk • contribs) 10:32, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Global Notice

VandalProof 1.3.1 is about to be released and due to the merge of the 1.2.2 and 1.3 userlist some users have been dropped by accident. If you were removed please add yourself to User:AmiDaniel/VP/Approval and this will be promptly fixed. We have a new forum for VP; we are moving the discusion off wiki to make handling matters easier. These pages will still exist but if you want a faster responce you may get it at amidaniel.com Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 13:43, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not able to get recent changes list

I am not able to get the recent changes list. if I click update nothing happens. codetiger 12:52, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Also when I click RC preferences, I get runtime error. codetiger 12:54, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

  • You could try re-downloading it. Make sure you have all the necessary files in the same diretory as the application (there are three downloads, I think). If that doesn't help, the official 1.3.1 version is being released in a few days. Ale_Jrbtalk 22:21, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Won't update watchlist

Just starting out with VP, with the 1.3 version. It loaded my watchlist this morning, but now won't update it. Won't load Recent Changes at all. I got the approval notice on my talk page, but still haven't been added to the Approved Users list. However I think it's working at least partially, as when I was trying to learn my way around I accidentally left an AfD notice on an IP vandal's page instead of the intended warning(!). If it makes any difference, I am on a satellite feed, so have to sign in on the secure pages or it will boot me out. I guess I'll try re-downloading. --Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 04:51, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

  • As far as I can see, you are not on the VandalProof 1.3 user list. I suggest that you re-request that your name is added? Unless I'm just missing you, of course. Ale_Jrbtalk 16:36, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Apparently I am attempting to use 1.3, not 1.3.1. I re-downloaded it and today it seems to mostly be updating as long as I refresh it manually. I will re-request being added to the list, if I haven't been added by now. Here is the approval note I got from Betacommand: User_talk:Kathryn NicDhàna#Welcome to VandalProof! 1.3 --Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 20:19, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Umm hi

How do i apply 4 this thanks --"P-Machine" 07:03, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

To apply for VandalProof, or for more information on what is required, you should see User_talk:AmiDaniel/VandalProof to register for the current version. Ale_Jrbtalk 17:39, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Problems

  • When I try to verify authorisation, it says "the user list is corrupt. please contact a mod to have it repaired".
  • I haven't been added to the recently approved list, although an approval message was posted on my talk page...

LibLord 12:47, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

The approval list can be found here - make sure your name is on that list. If not, contact one of the VP moderators. They can also fix the userlist. Ale_Jrbtalk 12:55, 18 November 2006 (UTC)


  • When I attempt to update the Recent Changes list, I get an Internet Explorer script error. Any ideas? --Mhking 02:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Try clearing your Internet Explorer cache and browsing history. Ale_Jrbtalk 10:31, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Nope - still getting the errors. --Mhking 14:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recent Changes Columns

What are the +/- and filter columns used for? I am unable to find documentation as to what they are. Prometheus-X303- 15:18, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

The +/- refers to the number of words (or characters? I will investigate) that has been added or removed. IF it is a significant number, it will be flagged for further investigation automatically. You can customise how the flagging works using the 'File > RC Preferences' menu. Ale_Jrbtalk 16:12, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Populating a watchlist

"My Watchlist" is blank, and hitting "update list" still doesn't populate that window. (I have version 1.3.1, and I use FoxPro). Any suggestions? -- Sholom 16:47, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I'm having a problem and I hope its not me

Sometimes, when I tag a page for speedy using VP I end up creating a blank page like this one Brad Cullian&oldid=90058086 (hopefully speedied itself soon) with the only content being the tag. I thought it might be an accidental recreation -- someone deleted the page just as I tagged it. But as of this moment in time, the page I meant to tag Brad Cullian still exists. (Will probably go redlink soon). Something similar has happened when I tried to speedy a redirect I created by userfying a page from article space. I feel like I'm creating extra work for admins by making these mistakes, -- I'm essentially creating pages that only exist to be speedied. But I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Anyone else having this problem? Dina 18:30, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Problems with verification against list

I have problems with running VandalProof. I was approved to the list, but it still refuses to work. I already discussed problem with moderator Prodego, but even him was not able to help me. I decided to post copy of our discussion here in case anybody had simmilar problem or any idea. --Jan.Smolik 15:39, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Copy of the discussion:

Hello, thanks for approving me using VP. However I still cannot get it working. When I start I get a login window, I my username appears and I am even able to login manualy. But when I click Verify Authorization it just says "You are not on the user list." I tried to login before I was approved, but since then I restarted computer and cleared IE cache. Executable name is "VandalProof 131.exe" so it seems I do have a correct version. Do you have any idea what can be possibly wrong? I cheched the discussion fora and I did not see it was a common problem, so I am writing. Maybe there is still some cache on the way and it will start working in couple of days. Anyway, have a nice day. --Jan.Smolik 22:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Do you have cookies enabled in Internet Explorer? That can cause problems logging in. Prodego talk 22:54, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I do have cookies enabled. --Jan.Smolik 22:59, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok, could you please detail exactly what you do when you try to log in (as in every button you press)? From clicking the exe, what happens? Sorry about the inconvenience in this, it will help rule out some problems. Thanks, Prodego talk 23:02, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I run "VandalProof 131.exe", Language says "en", Root says "wikipedia" (like this, no caps). After two or three seconds my username "Jan.Smolik" apears in the Username. I click "Vefify Authorization". It says: "You are not on the user list." That is all.
I alternatively tried to log out from wikipedia in IE, then clicking "Ch", entering manually my username and password clicked "Log-in To WP", which worked and than "You are not on the user list.", which did not. --Jan.Smolik 23:10, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Well you are on the userlist, and you do have cookies enabled... Hmm, try disabling any firewall or anti-virus programs. Do you use Internet Explorer for your regular Wikipedia use? And is it IE7? Prodego talk 23:17, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I will try to completely disable these. I just checked my other computer and it did not work either (my standard computer is behind NAT, the other one not). However it does not seem to be firewall thing, I allowed this exe to go through... Anyway, I will try it. Yes, I am using IE as my primary wikibrowser and it is version 6. Well, if my name is in the list (and it must be correct, because otherwise notification would not be on my talk page), problem seems to be on my side. I might try my office computer if problem is not elsewhere. Thanks for help. --Jan.Smolik 23:40, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I will let you know if I find anything that can help, Prodego talk 23:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC)¨

End of copided discussion. Any ideas? --Jan.Smolik 15:39, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Did you extract all of the files from the zip folder? --דניאל - Danielrocks123 contribs 22:38, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Indeed. Actually I tried it today on a computer at scholl and it did not work either. It is wierd. I am giving up. However, I am getting suspicious whether there might be a problem with czech windows and czech IE. But my login only involves english letters so there should not be a problem. I do not know. --Jan.Smolik 00:01, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Log-in not working.

I'm using VP version 1.31. It's not letting me log in. When the program starts I'm not automatically logged-in but I know this is OK because I'm not using IE (Netscape running Firefox engine). But even if I press Chg and enter my username and password then press Log-in to WP, I get nothing. I wait one minute and still nothing. The Verify Authorization remains disabled. I am able to access the internet normally with my browser. What's the problem here? LestatdeLioncourt talk 12:50, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Do you have cookies in IE enabled? You might try loging-in in the IE. Then it should find your login automatically. --Jan.Smolik 00:03, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
you will need to try clicking several times I sometimes have to click 10 times until it logs me in (some glitch with IE I assume) Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 03:47, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
  • For some reason whenever I enter a URL into the address bar in IE and press Enter it crashes, so I can't do that. I do have cookies enabled though (but I guess given the glitch, that's usless).
  • How long should I wait between two clicks? Will it log me in in 5 seconds or 100? Thanks. LestatdeLioncourt talk 20:07, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
I dont wait I just keep clicking until it logs me in. But that error with IE makes me think this error is different. Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 02:29, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
I have the same problem and I've tried clicking but it doesn't seem to work. It sometimes works if I download VP again and use the newly-downloaded one, although this rarely works. Thaurisil 06:12, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not on user list

When I click "Verify Authorization" to access it, I get an error message telling me that I am not on the users list. I received the "You have now been added to the list of authorized users" message, so what could the problem be? I have cookies enabled in both Firefox (my default browser) and IE. Nat91 03:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Seems you are second. I have the same problem. See section "Problems with verification against list" above. --Jan.Smolik 12:23, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
I saw. It seems like I'm also in your situation. Nat91 20:02, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Waiting for approval

How long should we expect to wait to hear from a moderator after placing ourselves on the Awaiting Approval list? The registration page implied that it would be within 24 hours, but it has been 2 days for me and longer for others- and it appears that no one has been approved thus far in December. M412k 02:11, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I was wondering the same thing. It looks like many of the names have been there for quite a lot longer than 24hrs. AuburnPilottalk 16:41, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Yep the list seems pretty big now. Also it would be nice to say where the users should put their name, because I've put mine to the bottom of the list and there are people now who added their names to the top after me... Tom.k 17:45, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

This list is getting ridiculously long. Anyone know what's going on? — BrotherFlounder (aka DiegoTehMexican) 00:41, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

*sigh*, alright, alright. Prodego talk 00:44, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for the approval, but how long does it take to reflect on the user list that VP uses to verify you? Because it won't let me in right now, about 10 hours after the approval... Tom.k 10:18, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
It's not letting me in either, after almost 20 days of approval... - Nat91 04:48, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
There is a bug affecting some users, and the cause has not been determined. When AmiDaniel returns from his break, he will have to try to figure it out, because I can not. However, if you are affected by this bug, it may help to write down your internet settings (for IE), what browser you use to edit normally, addons, ect, perhaps in my sandbox. Prodego talk 20:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
I've waited for 7 days already... Are the moderators away again?Insanephantom 02:06, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism Warnings

Hey guys,

Is there any way to customize the buttons that post warnings to user talk pages? I seem to remember having run across a way to do this before, but I forgot how. Thanks for the help! – Lantoka (talk) 11:03, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

There should be a file called CustomButtons.txt in the same directory as VandalProof. This file lists each button, the text displayed ont the button in VandalProof and the template to insert when the button is clicked. You can change the template to point to something else to insert different text (for example I have some warning templates which insert a heading then the standard template text). The only thing to watch out for is the VandalProof adds its own template at the end of the insert text which links to the revert that has been made. I haven't found a way to remove this extra bit. --MarkS (talk) 09:09, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Problem when viewing diffs

If I get one of those annoying runtime errors while I'm going to rollback an edit, and I have to go back to the articles history after I re-open, when I view the diff of when when the vandalism occured I get an "Error retrieving warnings" message in the spot where it usually states the user's username and the warnings they recieved. What makes it more annoying is that I can't rollback the edit. Is there a way to fix this? // I c e d K o l a 03:45, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

A large number of users are getting this problem. You can see a number of threads on this at the bottom of the VP bug page. --MarkS (talk) 09:13, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Can't login / I was approved, but I'm not on the User List

I tried using VP 1.30, when it was still in beta. It kept crashing, so I figured I'd wait for VP 1.31. I just downloaded VP 1.31, and it tells me I'm not on the user list. I checked and I don't show up on the user list, despite having been approved by betacommand. (see diff, history) I've been using the monobook.js admin-like anti-vandal tools by Voice of All, but I'd really like to give VP a whirl. What should I do? Many thanks in advance. AubreyEllenShomo 20:17, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

I saw the box on the approval page that says the list I checked shows only recently approved users. So, I'm not sure where the complete list is. All I know is this: VP tells me "You are not on the user list." when I hit the "Verify Authorization" button. AubreyEllenShomo 20:30, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Verify Authorization

If I click the "verify authorization" button nothing happens! Is something wrong? Go Futurama! User:Sp3000 05:56, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

For some reason it works now... Go Futurama! User:Sp3000 06:03, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] the "rollback" buttons not working and recent changes not updating

When I select a diff, I can't seem to find where exactly to revert it. (screenshot of the "rollback" buttons not working) also, my recent changes list isn't updating. (screenshot) Help? --TorriTorri(Talk to me!) 02:18, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I have the same problem with the rollback buttons not functioning. They're just gray like in the screenshot M412k 10:09, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Same as well, including the yellow "Error retrieving warnings (9)" warning every time i load a change. Any ideas? Goodnightmush 21:14, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Yeah I have been getting this as well. Any news on if its being worked on at all? --Djsasso 04:15, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] other languages

Can this tool be used in other languages, such as French? thanks for your attention, --Pejman47 21:13, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Waiting for approval

I have been waiting over a week for approval. When will anybody be back on? Culverin? Talk 00:21, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Downloaded, what do I do?

Ok, I downloaded VP and received approval. Right now it's in a zipped file. The problem is I don't know how to unzip a file and I don't know what to do next. =( Ed ¿Cómo estás? 19:22, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

I figured it out!!! =D --Ed ¿Cómo estás? 19:31, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

i also downloaded vp and received approval but in a zip file how can unzip it any help would be nice thanks also i use firefox if that mattersOo7565 03:05, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Use ZipGenius. ~~Eugene2x Sign here ☺ ~~ 19:26, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question regarding Rollback (Custom)

I recently used the "Rollback (Custom)" option to revert the removal of a message from User talk:68.126.7.176. VP reverted fine, but placed my custom message in the middle of AntiVandalBot's and also deleted some of its message. Additionally, VP wrote this sentence twice: (I did not write it either time) "A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link." What happened? Thanks for your assistance, Dar-Ape 18:26, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] category

i have joined vandalproof and i put the vandalproof infobox on my userpage and even the category box, yet my name isn't in the category list "Wikipedians who use VandalProof" and i joined. what's going on? --Chikinpotato11 19:05, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image on the VP page

Just wanted to let you know that an image you linked in the new login section, UserloginVP1.JPG, is missing. --SamMichaels 03:51, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] UW Harmonisation

I'm not sure if anyone on VandalProof caught this, but there's a link to a project harmonising user warnings. It looks bloody amazing, and definately something that VandalfProof should affilate itself with :) Rawling 23:30, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Run time error '91'

I am constantly receiving an error notice which then shuts down the program. "Run time error '91' - Object variable or With block variable not set". Please help, this is quite annoying. Neonblak 15:29, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

You're not the only one. I get this error 20 times a day...

Run-time error '91':
Object variable or With block variable not set

It seems to happen when I click to load a new page (on the recent change menu) before the previous page had a chance to finish loading. I'm using version 1.3.1 -- Big Brother 1984 01:16, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Problems :o

I read about the ": (9) Could not retrieve warnings" bug, but, besides that, when I go to the RC pane, the various 'Revert' buttons are grayed out. Is this supposed to happen (there should really be a more comprehensive tutorial for newbies to VP). Any help would be great. Thanks!

--Tyson Moore 14:20, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

UPDATE: I also get problems whenever I click anything. It always says, no matter what the page, that there has been a script eror on line seven, character one. I click 'yes' to let it continue running, but the RC list never pops up unless I disable the RSS feed, and the blacklist/whitelist won't update when using the 'import/export' function.

Tyson Moore 14:28, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User warnings have changed

Heya. Take a look at WP:UTM for the new warning messages. Things like {{test4}} are being deprecated. --Brad Beattie (talk) 21:24, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I've tried integrating WP:UTM into my VP and have had difficulty. The "a link to the edit I've reverted" text keeps being added to the end of my new reverts and my signature is added twice. It's not a terribly huge problem, just a nuisance...makes the warning look terribly long. This is clearly a VP issue and not an issue with the new warnings -- or, probably more likely, an issue with my understanding of how to implement custom Rollback buttons. Ginsengbomb 07:03, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Actually, it would appear the only issue is that the new template automatically incorporates my signature, whereas the old one does not. VP automatically adds the "a link to my revert" language and sig at the end of posted warning templates, so the new template's inclusion of the sig poses an issue with VP. Probably something that is easier fixed in VP than in the new templates, but I won't overly presume! Ginsengbomb 07:06, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Tis far far easier to fix a tempalte than it is to fix a program. Hope you can take this up with those people. Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 15:18, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
PS I think I might be able to get a patch for VP if my Idea works Cheers Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 15:41, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
BTW, to suppress automatically adding your signature to the end of templates posted by VP, simply append "##NOSIG" to the end of the template message in your CustomButtons.txt. AmiDaniel (talk) 04:52, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Problem

I've been recently approved. When I want to run the program, I have a message "You are not in the user list", what does it mean? Why I cannot run Vandalproof? Thank you for you help. Martial BACQUET 17:06, 24 January 2007 (UTC)


Yes, I have EXACTLY the same problem, is there a error or a bug of some sort??? I also noticed that my name is not on the approuval list, even though I was clearly accepted. Chris5897 (T@£k) 18:09, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "You are not on the user list"

Hi, I was approved for VP1.3 a few months back and used it successfully for a while, but now I seem to have fallen off the list and VP1.31 won't let me connect. Anybody help please? --YFB ¿ 03:27, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Scratch that, just seen the Global Message above. If there's a moderator about, I'd appreciate being re-added at your convenience :) --YFB ¿ 03:48, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cryptic words???

  • What do the words under the 'Filter' heading in the recent changes tab mean? It's just that I'm not sure what 'hi', 'oll', 'ass', etc. have to do with the changes on the pages.

*Also wondering what the 'Rollback {{test-n}}', etc. buttons create (I've just made a mistake on someone's talk page and don't really want to repeat it). *Sorry - last point I promise - what do the different colours mean in the recent changes list? And what's the difference between bold and normal text?

Thanks, Rocket71048576∞Talk 18:32, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

OK, have worked out 2 of the above for myself (are now crossed out). Still stuck on top one though. Rocket71048576∞Talk 16:43, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

They are words added to the article in the edit that much a set of common words used in vandalism--see your badwords.txt file for the full list. Unfortunately, as VB doesn't have regex capability and I've not had timee to improve this system, it generally only returns false positives. AmiDaniel (talk) 19:37, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
OK, thanks. Rocket71048576∞Talk 07:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] VandalProof

Hi. When I get on VP, it will work fine for 1-5 minutes, but then I will get an error that says

Run-time error '91': 
Object varible or With Block varible not set.

What does this mean and how can I fix it? Thanks, --CWY2190TC 01:34, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Time to call it a day?

At the moment we seem to be struggling with script errors, run-time errors, no rollback, and no compatibility with the modern warnings. If I may be so bold, the developer seems to have other fish to fry, and there's been no suggestion (that I've seen) that these major bugs will ever be fixed. I think I'll call it a day with VP. Mr Stephen 00:17, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

  1. script errors can be fixed by disabling javascript in Internet Explorer. (This has been said before some where)
  2. I have a patch for the new user warnings at User:Betacommand/Vandalism
  3. in regard to the other issues if you give a little more info I might be able to help there too. Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 01:32, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry that you feel this way, and I do apologize for my lack of availability over the last few month--unfortunately, life has been quite hectic lately, and I've not had time for anything Wiki related. It's not just VandalProof that I've been neglecting, but rather basically all of my on-wiki projects (for example, WikiMonitor, my "other fish to fry", I'd originally planned having finished in November 06...). While the bugs you mention are an inconvenience, the first two you mention are quite easily repaired by the suggestions Betacommand mentions. As for the last bug, this typically results from the absence of needed files such as the default RcPrefs.txt and badwordlist.txt--please ensure that you have these files named correctly and in the correct folder. It is indeed my intention to more or less abandon the VandalProof project, as I've stated before--the software was originally developed as just a simple little rollback gizmo and, due to fundamental flaws in the original design, as more and more bloat got added to the software it became more and more broken. If anyone has the patience to read through my horribly, horribly messy and unanotated source to attempt to derive fixes for these bugs, please let me know, and I'll be more than willing to bundle it up and send it off to you. I, however, do not plan on submitting any more fixes, but rather I intend upon voting all of my extremely limited Wiki time to projects such as WikiMonitor and VP2. AmiDaniel (talk) 05:01, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks to both of you for your helpful replies, and no need to apologize for anything. In a bit more detail the problems are: (1) The script errors are the least of the worries, but my experience is that turning off javascript in IE breaks a lot of non-wiki web pages. I can live with this one. (2) The run time error that gives me grief is (copying text from above) "Run time error '91' - Object variable or With block variable not set". I once recorded the latest viewed RC number for each crash, and got 5, 67, 108, 102, 1, 17, 2, 2, 36, 2, 12, 31, 17, 105, 1, 77, 38, 12, 1, 3, (about) 400, 1, 22. That is to say, it is unusual for VP to load a hundred recent changes without crashing. (3) By no rollback I mean that diffs cannot be rolled back – the buttons are greyed out. This makes (eg) watchlist patrolling harder, as instead of single click rollback & warn (brilliant!) you have to find the last good version, rollback with popups, go into the history, copy the pagename … well, you get the drift. This bug arrived at the same time as Werdna added the number of chars added/subtracted to the RC list. (4) I was unclear what I meant with regard to user warnings. It wasn’t using VP to place the new-style warnings that bothered me (I have already customised my CustomButtons), but VP’s interpretation and pre-reporting of existing user warnings.
I see all these problems on two computers. The datestamps & sizes for my RcPrefs.txt and badwordlist.txt are the same as in the 131 distribution zip. Regards, Mr Stephen 23:57, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I have made this offer before on the bugfix page.... I am a VB6 programmer and I am willing to attempt to help support this great program. I can probably figure out your code, don't worry about the commenting not being great. Thanks, Jerry lavoie 04:23, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your offer. Please see User:AmiDaniel/VP#Requesting_access_to_source. AmiDaniel (talk) 20:04, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How do I revert with VP?

Okay, I've been trying to figure this out since day 1. HOW do I revert an unconstructive edit with those rollback buttons? Do I have to install something else? They're never clickable. Power level (Dragon Ball) 04:45, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

If the article has already been subsequently edited since the time of the RSS feed you clicked on, then the button does not become active. So just to make sure you're doing all the steps, here is what you do:

  • double-click on the program icon
  • login to Vp by entering your username and password, or wait for it to find your IE cookie, then press login.
  • click on the recent changes tab in the left pane header.
  • click <update>
  • scroll through the list and find a likely candidate for reversion
  • click on the title of the article in question in the RSS list.
  • on the right pane, your browser window should show a summary of the diff; if after careful review you determine the edit should be reverted, press the appropriate rollback button.
  • note that if the buttons are grayed-out, there is probably a phrase below the edit summary that says something to the effect of:
Since user badboy edited the page, it has been edited or reverted by goodguy. Rollback has been disabled as a protective measure.

If after seeing the diff, you open the article or the user talk or contribs, the rollback buttons will not be active. Just go back to the left pane, and click on the RSS entry again.

I hope this helps. Jerry lavoie 06:08, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Need help with "Notify contributors" feature

I haven't quite figured this one out yet. Could someone give me a basic run-through of how I notify the contributors to an article, for example one I put up for deletion? Pyrospirit Flames Fire 23:17, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not on user list

Hi, I have just downloaded and installed VP but can't get into it, it says I'm not an authorised user. I got a message earlier today telling me I had been added to the list. Please can someone help? Thanks, Mallanox 23:57, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Try asking a moderator to add you to the list again. Ale_Jrbtalk 00:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removing security measures...

I want to throw out an idea and see if it gets the same resistance now that it did a year ago. Aside from the runtime 91, the warning retrieval error (both fixed in the next release, thanks to Alex), and the script errors (for which there may likely never be a fix unless Microsoft gets their shit together), the only real problem still present are the difficulties users are having "logging in". With VP's current security measures, our quite understaffed moderator body has had to take on a tremendous workload, leaving many users out to dry for weeks while their requests to use the tool are processed. Even then, once approved, users quite frequently have difficulties getting into the program due to bugs in the verification system; as such, many users are rendered completely unable to use the tool. With m:WikiMonitor, which I'm planning to put into beta-circulation in the next month, I plan on having absolutely no security mechanisms although the tool is debatably far more powerful and capable of damage than VP. My reasoning behind this is that I want WikiMonitor to be a fully open-source app (although likely not GPLed due to the MS EULA on some of its components), and that, as such, the security measures will be quite easily bypassed by any one with half a brain cell--putting them in serves only to encourage vandals and the like to bypass the measures, although they may not have had any interest in using the tool to these ends were the measures not in place. I also feel that this limited access seems to be in conflict with the free and open spirit of Wikimedia, and, as it will be an entirely interwiki-project, attempting to keep up with the approval process will be next to impossible. I expect to receive resistance to not securing WikiMonitor; however, this is what I currently intend to do. What I would like to propose presently is either removing or minimizing the security measures in place in VP. My preference would be to remove them altogether; however, I'm also open to implementing a system similar to that used by WP:WDM, which, at startup, checks the user's edit count and blocklog to determine whether s/he can use it, as opposed to checking and having to maintain an "approved user list". I will not, however, take either of these steps unless the users of VP and the Wikipedia community at large are in support of it. I would appreciate if you would please share your opinions on this matter. Thanks. AmiDaniel (talk) 20:10, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I think this is a good idea. I don't think Betacommand will like it though. Prodego talk 20:50, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
I agree that the current method doesnt work, I think something like what AWB uses would work perfectly. Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 21:00, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
If the current method worked properly, I think it would be significantly better than the other method. As it doesn't, I suppose something needs to be changed, so yeah - I guess so. Ale_Jrbtalk 21:40, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
I've changed the login system to no longer use encryption, which will hopefully reduce errors and/or make the issues easier to debug in future. A solution to the approval backlog would be to find a few users who have had VP for a while, and see if they're interested in moderating. Michael Billington (talk • contribs) 01:18, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
There have been some attempts at expansion, but the main problem is a lot of inactive mods. Checking everyone's background on that list is torture, let me tell you... Prodego talk 01:20, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Version 1.3.3

I downloaded VP 1.3.3, which ATM seems to be the latest version on amidaniel.com, despite what it says on the start page (1.3.4). And ... "You are not on the User List". Odd that - I'm using 1.3.1 to post this! Mr Stephen 13:13, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I know about this problem - it's because of the space in your username (in fact, I have it too!) and I already have a fix for it. I'm discussing the whole thing with ASmiDaniel, so expect a fix within a day (or two). Until then, please use V 1.31. Thanks Ale_Jrbtalk 18:29, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I am experiencing the same "You are not on the User List" message, yet I don't have a space in my name? Thoughts? -Seinfreak37 19:47, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Could you get on before? Ale_Jrbtalk 20:27, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Nope, I was recently (a few days ago) authorized, and finally had a chance to download the app and try. -Seinfreak37 20:33, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, you just haven't been added to the userlist at all. Try asking to be approved again =). Ale_Jrbtalk 20:49, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I get the same thing. Nice to hear that it's being fixed, though. :3 Blast 23,02,07 2324 (UTC)

[edit] AIV summary

Why doesn't VP give an edit summary when reporting a user to AIV? Or, if it does, but the problem is just me, how can I fix it? Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 21:58, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

What version are you running? This may have been a bug that was accidentally introduced in 133. AmiDaniel (talk) 04:20, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
I have 131. Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 19:36, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Try installing popups. If you already have them, try clearing your monobook.js file then installing only popups. Ale_Jrbtalk 13:45, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
I did that and upgraded to 134, it still isn't giving an edit summary on AIV. Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 01:50, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Where is version 1.34?

When I opened 1.33, it take me to the main page where it asks me to download 1.34 because 1.33 doesn't work. The link only takes me back to the 1.33 version page. Anybody else have this problem? User: Hdt83 | Talk/Chat 02:32, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, this was a problem of the website not getting updated (I forgot that modifications to the downloads page are sent to a temp cue, where I have to approve them). Should now be fixed. AmiDaniel (talk)
I love 1.34. Seems like all my favorite bugs got fixed. Great job! Philippe Beaudette 06:01, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] 1.34 Won't load Recent Changes, Scripts error is back

For the past couple days I've been getting the scripts error over and over in v.1.31, so I just downloaded 1.34 to see if it's fixed. The icon on my desktop says it's v.134, but the page when I open it still says 1.33. The Scripts Error window pops up as soon as the browser opens, before anything loads. I tell it to stop running scripts and it manages to load the intro page, but it won't load Recent Changes. V.1.31 used to not load RC sometimes, but for some reason it started working more smoothly over time -- I honestly don't know why -- so I don't know why this is happening. Between the scripts error, the not loading and the crashing I may have to go back to 1.31. ARGH. ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 07:43, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not completely compatible with the new warnings

I am currently using VandalProof 1.3.4. The start page claims that VandalProof is completely compatible with the new warnings, but when I click Rollback (custom), I find that the old warnings are still there. Squirepants101 19:46, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I've decided to report this to AmiDaniel himself. Squirepants101 21:28, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not on User list - only in 1.3.5?

Since I was approved a couple of days ago, I've had problems getting VP to work. Recently I requested to be re-added (thanks Betacommand). However, using 1.3.5 still gives me a Not in User list problem, but if I try with 1.3.1 I can get in (though I occasionally get crashes and script errors and whatnot). I'm just wondering if there is a fix to this? So far it's been great help though, so thanks anyways! --RazorICEtalk 05:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Um, an investigation reveals that you are not on the 1.35 user list, so that will be where the error is coming from... I'll look into this a bit more later. Ale_Jrbtalk 08:00, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I goofed and all my approvals last night are not 1.3.5 compatible i plan on fixing that today Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 13:14, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Alright, thankyou both for the reply. At the moment I'm still not able to use 1.3.5, but I'm managing with 1.3.1, so no hurry to get it fixed or anything. :) --RazorICEtalk 07:28, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiMonitor logo...

The m:WikiMonitor splash screen.
The m:WikiMonitor splash screen.
Proposed logo
Proposed logo

This is completely off the topic of VandalProof; however, I was wondering if some of you out there who are more artsy than myself would care to assist me in creating a logo for the up-and-coming WikiMonitor app. I already have a working splash screen (shown right), though I'm totally open to suggestions of improving it as well. What I'd really appreciate would be if someone could help come up with a nifty icon for the app (an icon to be displayed, i.e., as the exe icon). As of yet my only idea for an icon has been the typical eyeglass meme, which I think is quite lame. I'm hoping someone out there may have some better ideas :). The only restrictions are that it has to be freely licensed (GFDL, CC, PD, etc.) and must adequately convey the concept of the app. Ideal would be something that could also convey it as a tool that is both international and free (in the GNU sense of the word). Note also that the foundation logos (the Wikipedia globe, etc.) are trademarked, and though I'm putting in a request to the board to use these logos in other parts of the application, I do not yet have this permission, nor do I really want anything foundation-specific to be included in the icon. Any help will be appreciated, and the winning design will get mention in the credits! :) AmiDaniel (talk) 05:44, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

How about the MediaWiki logo with a magnifying glass over it? V60 VTalk · VDemolitions 03:39, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
A prototype is on the left. Comments? V60 VTalk · VDemolitions 04:02, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I like the idea. But right now I would not recognize that thing under mangifying glass is a mediawiki logo. If the magnifying glass was relatively smaller and the rest of logo was visible around it, it might be better. --Jan.Smolik 16:14, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
The glass could be more transparent. This app would be mediawiki dependent, so the PD logo for that is not a bad idea. Prodego talk 03:32, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I can't comment much now, but just thought I'd let you know that the other suggestion by Eugene2x is shown on the right. Will comment later. AmiDaniel (talk) 18:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cannot Update RC

Got 1.35, but nothing loads up when I click the update button. - Penwhale | Blast the Penwhale 15:05, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Same problem is happening for me.

[edit] Filter

Is anyone else have problems with the filter not working in 1.3.5? ---CWY2190TC 00:58, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] VandalProof 1.35 not responding

I was authorized for Vandal Proof last summer and reapproved just today, however everytime I log in to version 1.35, and I click "Verify Authorization", the VP window pops up and then...nothing. No Recent Changes updates, none of the Rollback buttons are active. And all cookies are excepted on my CPU. Please advise. Netkinetic(t/c/@) 04:49, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The RC filter

About your message on the start page: I actually use the filter quite a lot. The fix is extremely simple. All I did is went to badwords.txt and added a space before and after six or seven words. Those words basically were the only ones that were constantly generating false positives. Pyrospirit Flames Fire 01:18, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] It seems VandalProof is unusable to me

I've been wanting to become a user of VandalProof for quite some time. I spent alot of time fighting vandals the hard way and thought getting access to this tool would help me. However, I haven't been able to use it for weeks. I was able to finally add a Welcome message to a user's talk page today, but I have to deal with hundreds of Script errors before I'm able to do anything. I don't even have the patience to try and learn the program because I deal with about 50 popups in 20 minutes so I shut it off and do something else. I also have greyed out rollback buttons. I know what you're thinking, check the FAQ, I did.

At first I thought it was an issue with Firefox because I absolutely hate IE with a passion. But I used it anyway so I could fight vandals. I get the same script errors though and I'm unable to rollback anything due to the buttons being greyed out. I've cleared the cache of IE and the temporary Internet files and I've also cleared out my monobook.js file and added {{subst:navpop}} towards the end of the file.

I hope I'm the only one that is having these issues, I'd hate to know that everyone is as frustrated as I am. What am I doing wrong? BrianZ(talk) 01:09, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I downloaded version 1.35 and I'm now able to use the rollback buttons. I'm still left with the annoying script error popups though and popups are the main reason why I hate IE so much, so if anyone has any other ideas other than what is in the FAQ about deleting Temp Internet files I'd appreciate it. BrianZ(talk) 01:16, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
I used to constantly get the script error until just recently, when I installed a quick fix to my monobook.js. Seeing as you have a large amount of JavaScript, I'm pretty sure what the problem is. You have a large number of scripts that work in Firefox, but are incompatible with IE. To fix this, place the following in your monobook.js:
var detect = navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase();
var IE;
var place = detect.indexOf('msie') + 1;
if (place) IE=true;
if (!IE) {
   /* Place your Firefox scripts here */
}
Then, move in all scripts incompatible with Internet Explorer into this area in place of the comment. Any scripts you put in there will be disabled when you run IE. It works; see my monobook.js, which uses this. Pyrospirit Flames Fire 04:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Great, thanks Pyrospirit, I'll check that out when I have a minute. BrianZ(talk) 14:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks, but help!?

thanks for the approval. i am having trouble with the software. it recognizes my user name, when i log in, but when i try and verify, it tells me that i am not on the list. i am using IE/VISTA/NORTON07. thanks. the_undertow talk 21:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

You might want to download a previous version. I have the same problem with 1.5, so I run 1.4 instead. Yossiea (talk) 14:19, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Recent Changes dosnt update

But watchlist does. ffm ✎talk 13:11, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, fixed by turning off RSS.ffm ✎talk 13:15, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] When will we get 1.36?

It's been quite a while since you put up the message saying VP 1.36 will be available in a "couple of days". Where is it, and about when will it actually be ready? Pyrospirit Flames Fire 15:15, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

As soon as I get around to approving it. See my talk page. AmiDaniel (talk) 15:34, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Ok. Any idea when that will be? Pyrospirit Flames Fire 23:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not on user list

Hi - I was approved by Betacommand, but when logging in, it says I'm not on the user list. I was on previously with another username (Philippebeaudette) but went through usurpation to this one. Vandal hunting is WAY easier (and more fun!) with VP, and I'm missing it. Thanks! Appreciate any help... Philippe Beaudette 01:27, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 'My Watchlist' suddenly won't populate

Sometime over the weekend I I lost the ability to populate/update 'My Watchlist'. If I load some recent changes, a small subset of the RCs appears in the list, all in the form

Article { - admin}

I get this on two PCs. Anyone else seeing this? Any fixes? TIA Mr Stephen 08:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Error

Hi. VP is a great program, however, every time I load a page I get an error message:

  • An error occurred in the script of this page
  • Line 57 Char 6 (always)
  • Unexpected call to method or property access.

I would appreciate any help. Thanks. GDon4t0 (talk to me...) 17:22, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried this? Snowolf (talk) CON COI - 18:31, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
That seems better. Thanks. GDon4t0 (talk to me...) 19:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is there a problem with approval?

I have submitted my name twice for approval recently, only for my name to be removed twice (1 and 2) with no explanation in the edit summary or notification on my talk page. I was previously approved as Mattbr30 but have since been renamed (I even noted this in my first request), and with nearly 9000 edits, I believe that I meet the approval criteria and I am a bit confused as to why I have not been approved. This diff also shows that users are being approved who are not on the awaiting approval list, with everyone on the list being removed at the same time. Others appear to have had a similar experience, so is there a problem in the 'system'? mattbr 13:09, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

You should find that you are now on the list of approved users. Sorry fopr any inconvenience. Ale_Jrbtalk 21:34, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
It's OK, thank you. mattbr 22:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
im on the approval list, but not on the 'user list,' according to the software. can you look into this, plz? the_undertow talk 22:01, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
You submitted your username as "the undertow", while it is actually "The undertow". I fixed that. Also make sure you have the latest version of VP: (3.05). Prodego talk 22:46, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What does it take to become a moderator?

I was wondering what it takes to be a VP or VP2 moderator? Do I have to be an admin already? <humor>Do I need to have a background check done? </humor> ffm ✎talk 00:07, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

There are no set requirements for becoming a moderator - they are picked by AmiDaniel as and when they are considered to be needed. And beeing an administrator helps, but isn't required. Ale_Jrbtalk 11:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
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