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[edit] Unspecified source for Image:Montauk-airport.gif

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The original entry stated the image was "by FAA" However it got tagged as unsourced. This image is by the Federal Aviation Agency, a U.S. government agency. I have included a URL. I hope this addresses the issue. Americasroof 01:27, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
I can't find this image. I searched for "Montauk" which gave 3 PDFs. I skimmed through them and couldn't find it. Could you put some directions on how to find this diagram from the page you linked please? I do believe this to be a FAA drawing, I hope you do understand that I at least needed the URL you provided, as many people put "From XXX government agency" which isn't enough to claim that it's public domain. Thank you for working with me on getting the source problem figured out. --MECU≈talk 01:39, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
With regards to your follow up question. The FAA website is counterintuitive. You can't link directly to an image because it expires. You have to click on the instructions information in blue below the red lettered warning that tells you to link to that page ONLY. That takes you to a map and entry form. I clicked New York and then searched by city for Montauk. The image is a pdf with other data but I jus cropped the diagram. The link: http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_tpp The link to the Montauk diagram (for today only as it will expire) is http://www.naco.faa.gov/pdfs/ne_161_18JAN2007.pdf Hope this addresses the issue. Americasroof 01:48, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Awesome. Thanks. That's all I needed. I've removed the nosource tag from the image. I made a comment (with a typo in the edit summary) that it's impossible to directly link to the image per the FAA website. That should help in the future if you have problems (not likely). Lastly, to link to an image without displaying it, you just put a : in front of Image:, like this: [[:Image:NAME.JPG]] and it won't display. Thanks again for your cooperation. --MECU≈talk 01:53, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WUSTL Project

 Hello, I noticed you've made edits to WUSTL articles or that you are in some way connected to Washington University in St. Louis. I thought you might want to become a member of Washington University in St. Louis WikiProject . We've recently built the project page and started a drive to improve articles in the WUSTL series. Please take a look to edit an article or add one of your own. Once an article's status has been agreed upon, feel free to stop by and lend a hand in getting it to featured article status. Hope you can participate! 
--Lmbstl 12:16, 25 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Stewart Airport

Roger,

I reverted your last rewrite as it ... well, it created more problems than it solved IMO. Could you have at least followed common practice and put all your concerns on the talk page first, especially given that the article is hardly neglected? The article looks (to me) a lot worse now. I really don't see why, if you complained (correctly) that much of the material was unsourced (although I made a fairly game effort to try to put a bunch in a few months back), you didn't just tag the unsourced assertions and work to find sourcing for them (not easy, I admit, given the limitations of the Record''s online archives and the Poughkeepsie Journal not having much online to search. But there are libraries around here, after all).

In fact, I'm going to revert everything you did so we can start on the talk page and justify every change you want to make (For example, taking the bit about the space shuttle out as "p.r. fluff" is essentially a POV edit. Perhaps it can land at every airport (having seen the main runway in Florida and being told how important it was that it was so long, I'm not sure about that and I'd like to see a source). Daniel Case 02:15, 28 January 2007 (UTC)


Oh, another thing ... re the infobox image, see this about what goes in the infobox image argument:

A link to a photograph of the aiport, or an image of the airport logo

I had the airport diagram where it was to illustrate the section describing the airport itself. That other people have put the FAA diagram in that argument shows that they're lazy and don't read guidelines. (Also, "privatization problems" may seem less POV but the facts are that privatization didn't work out (Jim Wright said as much). A public authority buying a lease held by a private company for a public asset is, any way you slice it, an end to the privatization)

Yes, I know it needed work (It's in my backyard more than geographically: I covered the privatization when I was a reporter (There's a lot there that might source to articles I had written myself! But I've been trying to depend on the Record)

If I go back to what was there before, all the changes you made that are good are still in the history and we can take what we need from them. If you make a list of problems (and there are problems), I'll make a to-do list so other people can fix them as need be.

I don't want a revert war either. They happen when people insist on "my version, all or nothing" and refuse to discuss it on the talk page (Yes, there have been articles I've wanted to do major rewrites on. I usually see how active an interest people take in the page first before I decide what to do). Daniel Case 02:26, 28 January 2007 (UTC)


OK, I have reverted to your last version so I can start cleaning it up (For one thing, why did you chop the opening grafs into little bits? The two tight grafs were in keeping with WP:LEAD. Articles with that kind of scattered look never get featured status. You can see that complaint all the time on WP:FAC).

Actually, you didn't change as much as I thought you had. But some things ... "grassroots rebellion" is, well, we need something a little drier to describe that, like whatever it was that I had (Believe me, I had some section heds and lively writing I really liked at New Coke drained by others in the interest of keeping them encyclopedic. So I've learned the hard way). Daniel Case 03:47, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Alright, I've cleaned it up. As I said, you didn't change as much as I thought. But do take in consideration that prose like this, if it came from your rewrite:

many barracks and other buildings were built on the base with many of buildings still standing

is not going to impress me, or FA reviewers, or any readers. Also, in the history section you eliminated that riff about Rockefeller building all his grandiose projects. Fine, but since there are later references to Stewart being hoped for as an SST airport during that time it needed some explaining, so I had to put something back in.

You probably did streamline it some. But I do take pride in my prose, as I think anyone who has made a living on their writing skills does, and it at first looked to me like the article had been "dumbed down" and made more like too much else here.

Hope we're over this now. Daniel Case 03:47, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

The above comments reflected several edits. Dan and I have exchanged comments on each other's pages. Some of my edits were restored and some were nuked. I disagree with many of the revisions that Dan made since they removed hard facts, hard dates and references. However I will not engage in a revert war over Stewart International Airport. Americasroof 17:40, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:Po-logo1.jpg)

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Thanks for your comments about Image:Po-logo1.jpg It was the original logo for the U.S. Post Office. However a better image is now on the articles so it's fine to go ahead and delete it. Thanks. Americasroof

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:Mo-air-guard.jpg)

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[edit] Unspecified source for Image:Peconic-flag.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Peconic-flag.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, then you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, then their copyright should also be acknowledged.

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You sent me a note on plans to delete Image:Peconic-flag.jpg because there was no source. The flag was used on bumper stickers, pins, letterhead, etc. in the unsuccessful effort in the 1990s to create Peconic County, New York. I have put source information. I hope that meets the criteria. Americasroof 02:59, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Since that is not a flag of a government, nation, or a military, and is not a royal, regal, nor historical flag, it is considered under copyright by the organization. Please upload a PNG version of that flag, orphan the JPEG version of this, and then mark the JPEG image with {{Db-author}}. JPEG compression is inappropriate for this kind of image. If you use Windows, download the GIF version, open it up in Microsoft Paint, and then save it as a PNG. The GIF file format is disallowed on Wikipedia unless you are uploading an animated GIF, because of some old patent issues that have expired, and because PNG compression usually takes up less space on disk than GIF does. Then upload the PNG version to Wikipedia, mark it as a fair use logo, and include a fair use rationale explaining why this image, which would be disallowed in most other circumstances because it is a copyrighted image, must be used in that article. Jesse Viviano 04:49, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mercator Cooper

I can recall no records for other landings on the mainland between those of Davis and Cooper, by the way the landing of Davis is documented and I see no reasons to question it; the wiki article cites no sources of possible doubts (so that remark should actually be withdrawn); I would be interested to see such sources if any. There is a web reference to 'S. Peter's rock' in Bonin Islands, mentioned in connection with another wreckage. The islands were used by the Americans and the British as a whaling base in the early 19th century; as they were later annexed by Japan, the early European names for the individual islands became possibly superceded by Japanese names. Pribilof Islands are highly improbable; I don't think they were even visited by Japanese at that time, and indeed they were Russian islands and by no means "northern Japanese islands". Apcbg 22:58, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for going the extra mile! It's a big help! 02:02, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] North Omaha

Hi. You've contributed to the North Omaha article in the past, and I'm wondering if you can help figure out how to make it more "readable" - its getting long. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. - Freechild 18:58, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Love to get your thoughts on this. Thanks. - Freechild 21:14, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your St. Louis Arsenal draft and the blacklisted link

I saw your request on Meta. The suite101.com site is blacklisted. Suite101.com editors were financially motivated by the company to link to Wikipedia to build traffic and ad revenues, so we ended up with several hundred links. Some of their stuff is good, some is awful (there's not much editorial oversight).

I took the http out of your link, disabling it. Readers can still see it, but neither Wikipedia's software nor their broswers will recognize it as a hyperlink.

I hope this helps. --A. B. (talk) 05:01, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Hello again. Now I need your help. Can you join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam#Suite 101. We can't figure out how you were able to add a live blacklisted link to your new Liberty Arsenal article without getting blocked. It's possible we have a software bug. Can you clarify for us your recent experience with adding the Suite101.com link and any blocks or non-blocks you got? Thanks, --A. B. (talk) 01:02, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
By the way, if you were wondering why Suite101 is blacklisted, here's a part of the saga to skim (but only if you have problems falling asleep):
I heard Jimbo Wales even got involved at some point.
--A. B. (talk) 01:18, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks again for your help. That's a very well done article by the way. --A. B. (talk) 22:08, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mic-O-Say

Pony Express is the only council that has Mic-o-Say only but Geiger is not the only camp. HOA has their camps divided so that Camp Naish is Order of the Arrow and Camp Bartle is Mic-O-Say. Bartle has no OA lodge. Thus the sentence that Geiger is the only camp to offer exclusively Mic-O-Say is incorrect. Jvbishop 20:52, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Your welcome. - Tom Tom Beater Quick Grey Fox - Jvbishop 21:19, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] David Rice Achiston

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. However, it is recommended that you use the preview button before you save; this helps you find any errors you have made, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Thanks again.  ;) — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib 14:54, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

The above unsigned comment probably would have been corrected with the use of preview by User:Revragnarok which have also gotten the name right of David Rice Atchison. I probably use my sandbox more than most. But I would rather get an article right. The Atchison article as written cited no references and had almost no history of his early career. Major changes usually require multiple edits. Americasroof 16:55, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Nothing like a little good faith there. I put too many ~'s apparently - I don't normally preview with a simple template. I was just trying to be friendly and helpful. Since "Major changes usually require multiple edits," you may want to look into {{inuse}}. — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib 17:26, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jarvis Offutt

Just wanted to let you know I did some work on the above article - I am stationed at Offutt AFB, so I was able to get some material from the base library. I expanded it somewhat (I don't think it can be expanded much further, given the materials available), added an infobox and metadata, and made sure it complied with the Manual of Style. Appreciate any feedback or tweaks you might care to give. RJASE1 Talk 23:35, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Nice job! Thanks for going the extra mile. It's sometimes really hard to find that level of detail on line. In the for what it's worth department when I did a search via newspaperarchive.com, there was a tale about him being buried in the wrong grave and they had to look for him. There were some other comments that his family being very prominent in Omaha. Thanks again! Americasroof 04:53, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
I would love to see the extra material you dug up - there must be some way we can incorporate it. RJASE1 Talk 05:04, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

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