User talk:Amenra

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[edit] Welcome

Hello, Amenra, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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PS: When adding categories to biographies, please use the additional "sort key", otherwise people will be sorted by their first names. For example, [[Category:U.S. Marine Corps officers|Robertson, Pat]] versus [[Category:Critics of Islam]]. In the first instance it will listed under "R", while in the second it will by under "P". For futher info, see Wikipedia:category and Wikipedia:categorization. Thanks, -Willmcw 23:36, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
If you have any questions about how to do this, please let me know. -Willmcw 19:52, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Erm, the categorisation doesn't make sense. Fred Nile is a critic of Islam. Irshad Manji is a Muslim who strongly criticises some tenets of Islam, but isn't attacking Islam as a whole. She's a critic of Islamic fundamentalism, but she's by no means a critic of Islam. Ambi 03:10, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Please don't assume that someone is ignorant simply because they disagree with you. I'm quite well-read myself, and I still see no evidence that she's a critic of Islam, as opposed to Islamic fundamentalism. Ambi 03:30, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hagarism

I gave a reason for each of my edits. Some of the statements I removed were original research. Assume good faith. If you have problems with any of my edits, please point them out specifically. BhaiSaab talk 22:01, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Amenra/List of critics of Islam

Hello Amenra. There it is. Cheers. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 23:05, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Seeing Islam As Others Saw It

Your edits here make little sense. Despite what you may think about the historiography of early Islam that book seems to be very supportive of the Muslim view. The review even states that it was trying to show that non-Muslim texts say the same thing as Muslim ones. I have no idea whether or not it properly did that or not but you're portraying it as if it's "refuting and contradicting" the Islamic account of history--which clearly was not its purpose. Please make this article an explanation of Hoyland's work--not an explanation accounts of early Islamic historiography. They are completely different endeavors. If you can find reviews from journals complaining about the book that would be fine to add. I personally have no idea if this book is 'right' or 'wrong'--I have not read it. But from what I've read about it it is a sympathetic view and it should be portrayed as such. gren グレン 05:27, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Agreed - the review directly contradicts the original research in the article. BhaiSaab talk 05:39, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
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