Talk:American popular music

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Contents 1 Um 2 new opening? 3 Christian contemporary 4 Problem

[edit] Um

"British bands like the Sex Pistols and The Clash found short-lived fame at home and, to a lesser degree, in the United States" "Short-lived fame" please. You can't deny that these bands assumed their legendary status in music, and are still INCREDIBLY famous. Even if you don't like them. Please change this.

Also this article could use heaps of pictures from other articles, one picture to describe each scene/era would be enough.

[edit] new opening?

Hi Tuf-Kat I'd like to suggest simply one paragraph at the opening:

From its roots in West African and European folk traditions, American popular music has developed into a rich variety of styles over the last 200 years, which have had a profound effect on music across the world, particularly since the introduction of recorded music and broadcasting. These styles include ragtime, blues, jazz, rock, R & B, doo wop, gospel, soul, funk, heavy metal, punk, disco, house, techno, salsa, grunge and hip hop, and numerous, less familiar regional styles, such as zydeco, klezmer and slack-key. The genius of these styles lies in their supple, energetic rhythms, their appealing vocal lines, and in many cases their symbolic associations with the plight of the underprivileged.

Tony 05:35, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Lead section recommends three paragraphs for an article of this size. If you really think the second paragraph should be removed, I could live with that, but the lead should be a concise summary of the rest of the article. So I think it's important to give a broad introduction to the field. Tuf-Kat 05:58, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

OK, but I'd recommend chucking the second and third. Let me read the article again. Is the last sentence of the proposed first para OK (I just conjured it up, wondering whether it's correct).Tony 06:10, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I squished together the last two paragraphs into one, removed the second and added a slightly revised sentence -- I thought it was POV, but decided it works if "genius" is switched to "appeal". Tuf-Kat 06:21, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Christian contemporary

"Grant would later produce CCM's first #1 pop hit ("Baby Baby"), and CCM's best-selling album (Heart In Motion)."

I remember that when "Baby Baby" came out, there was quite a stink in the CCM community. Is this really considered a CCM song? There are no lyrics that refer to anything religious. On a related note, the new additions to the article need to be sourced; this is a FA candidate, and it can't stand for just random additions at this point. BrianSmithson 11:29, 3 October 2005 (UTC) --Tuf-Kat 02:42, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Problem

This article suffers from being based on the premise that "the roots of popular American music lie in the early 20th century." In fact, American popular music of the 20th century derives in a straight line from that of the 19th century. I've tried to tweak things here and there, but the article is so unbalanced and shows such a lack of awareness of many major trends in American popular music that mere tweaking doesn't help much. A secondary problem is that the article is almost exclusively concerned with recorded music.