Talk:Alt.sex.stories
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I removed these links from the External Links section; they seem unrelated to alt.sex.stories.
- Sex Stories Archive -- Alternative collection of free sex stories (home to over 4400 authors) with ability to read alt.sex.stories and alt.sex.stories.gay.moderated newsgroups from web browser.
- Gay Sex Stories -- Alternative collection of free gay sex stories (home to over 1000 authors).
24.23.134.238 19:06, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Link to Eli the Bearded's user page
I have removed the link from the article to user:Eli the Bearded, as per Wikipedia:Avoid self references it is not apropriate to link to Wikipedia user pages from the article. These links cause problems for our mirrors, the vast majority of which do not mirror the user: namespce. Even articles about Wikipedians, e.g. Jimmy Wales, there are no links to his user page here in the text. The only link to user:Jimbo Wales is in the External Links section, and is formated as an external link - i.e. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jimbo_Wales. Only on articles about that person are such links generally allowed, hence there is no link to Jimbo's user page on the Wikipedia article. Links to user pages are fine on article talk pages, as again these are not generally mirrored. Thryduulf 16:55, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
- Okay, I didn't understand that when I reverted your edit. Thanks for explaining. At the time I was just thinking "why link to a non-existant page when there's a decent bio on his userpage?" --W.marsh 17:28, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Speedy Deletion Tag
I was surprised to see a Speedy Deletion tag posted, ostensibly because of "notability" and "illegal material." Let me address each one:
First, lack of notability is a criteria for deletion, not speedy deletion. The Usenet hierarchy alt.sex.stories is critical to an understanding of the growth of the internet into its present form. Usenet predates the Worldwide Web by well over a decade. Many people who are not familiar with the history and background that gave rise to the internet tend to think of the Web as the internet. That's simply not true, it is only one aspect of the Internet and only the most recent.
Before there was a Web, there was Usenet. And one of the most important portions of Usenet that drove the popularity of the web were the stories told through the alt.sex.stories hierarchies. This was an important factor in drawing people to the internet in the first place. As detailed by the article itself, understanding the alt.sex.stories hierarchy is critical to understanding how the internet was born. To say it lacks notability is absurd.
As to "illegal" materials, there is no "alt.sex.stories.pedo" as far as I can tell. If one was created in the past (and a Usenet group is easy to create), there is no indication that it in any way has propogated. My Usenet service is among the most comprehensive, with over 120,000 Usenet groups. There's no "pedo" subgroup. If any such group is out there, it is certainly not being distributed. Nonetheless, even if it was out there, it would still be protected under U.S. law; written materials --even involving minors -- are protected by the First Amendment.[1] There's no such thing as an "illegal" textual description of a sexual act.
I believe this nomination was made in bad faith and without any checking of notability or legality. Therefore, I will be removing the tag after a period to allow responses. Jtmichcock 12:31, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
