Talk:Allen Welsh Dulles

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A user copied-and-pasted from https://www.cia.gov/csi/studies/95unclass/100Days.html into the middle of this article. It appears to be a copyright violation, and it does not at all work with the flow of the article. I'm going to delete.

Quadell 16:03, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I am just wondering why nobody has every seemed to mention the name of Elenor Dulles who as far as i can remember was responsable for Checkpoint Charlie or the Berlin desk. Why is this the case. If we are indeed talking about the Dulles family which is a possiblity of where and why I wound up at Allen Foster Dulles and John Foster Dulles does this wonderful woman who made a wonderful sacrifice patriotically for her nation not be mentioned.

* The article is about Allen Dulles, not the Dulles Family. But, maybe you should mention Elenor Dulles (Allen's wife?) and create a link to an article about her.--AI 23:35, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Allen or Alan?

If it's Allen, the spelling should be changed back. If it's Alan, the page should be moved. Quadell (talk) 14:55, Jun 28, 2004 (UTC)

It has been almost a year, and no response to Quadell's comment. Is it Allen or Alan?--AI 02:13, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Errors

I just cleaned up a couple somewhat exaggerated claims. First off this article mentioned Operation Mockingbird as if it was a generally acknowledged event. In fact, if you look at that article's talk page you'll discover that we had trouble verifying the program's existance. It doesn't seem to be widely believed in outside conspiracy theory circles.

Second, this article described Operation Northwoods as a proposal to kill American citizens and frame Cuba. Our article on that proposal says nothing about killing any Americans, and at most suggests the possibility of making wounding attacks on Cuban expatriates. Isomorphic 04:39, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I rarely see his middle name mentioned. Do you think this should just be at Allen Dulles? john k 03:33, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Several comments: Firstly, It would probably be better if this were at Allen Dulles with a redirect from the full name. Secondly, the article says that he was the first DCI and the table at the bottom of the article says that Gen. McCone was his predecssor; it doesn't make sense that both could be right. Thirdly, I don't think that his brother John Foster Dulles was the "main shareholder in the United Fruit Company" as the article states, this is more conspiracy theory. (This is not to deny all connection between the Dulles family and United Fruit; it is apparently an established fact that the brother of John Foster Dulles' assistant secretary for Latin America was the brother of United Fruit Co.'s president, which is significant, but hardly makes the article's allegation true.) Before correcting this, I wanted to mention this on the talk page and attempt to get other comments.

Significant error in text regarding Dulles' firing: the article mentions Dulles being fired over Operation Northwoods in 1961. The problem here is that Northwoods was not developed until March of 1962. Dulles was fired over the Bay of Pigs, after a decent interval. Northwoods was a Defense Dept. proposal requested by Edward Lansdale, who was running Operation Mongoose out of the White House. Neither the CIA nor Dulles had anything to do with Northwoods.

(above individual forgot to sign) Allen W. Dulles was the first CIVILIAN director of the Central Intelligence Agency. His predecessor was General Walter Bedell Smith, not a civilian. 71.116.217.242 21:34, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

This article fails to mentions Dulles' extensive links to the German industrial sector, including many leading Nazi figures, both before, during and after WW2, nor does it address the many accusations made against him concerning his Nazi allegiences. It also fails to address the significant clashes between Dulles and Kennedy that led to his first dismissal, nor does it explain how he managed to get himself reinstated as head of the CIA after Kennedy's death, nor does it expand on Dulles' contribution to the expanded US role in foreign conflicts. NWilhelm 31Jul06

[edit] Allen Walsh Plagiarism

While researching Allen Dulles I came across this site from CNN that has the exact same text as the Wikipedia Article. Neither source seems to reference to either source; therefore, somewhere along the line plagiarism has occurred

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/kbank/profiles/allen.dulles/ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.148.229.234 (talk) 15:49, 28 February 2007 (UTC).