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Alias Flood

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[edit] Football AID 25 June - 2 July

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[edit] My note to Tulika 99

Hello Tulika 99. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Please also note that an article's talk page is intended for discussion on that particular article and not for social conversations. Only under very special circumstances should one editor alter or amend the talk comments of another editor. Thanks -- Alias Flood 03:26, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

hey!!
thnks for tht..
i realized tht so i edited tht page n deleted it.
wont do it again.
thnks!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tulika 99 (talk • contribs) 04:53, 6 July 2006.

[edit] Fabio Grosso

My note to User:203.118.57.182: Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. The links you added to the page Fabio Grosso have been removed. Please do not add commercial links (or links to your own private websites) to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or a mere collection of external links. You are, however, encouraged to add content instead of links to the encyclopaedia. If you feel the link should be added to the article please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. -- Alias Flood 02:18, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm disappointed that you did not even read the researched links. What citations would you suggest for "independent global media" but commercial newspapers. This is factual content, spare us all you editorials. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.118.57.182 (talk • contribs) 02:26, 8 July 2006.
My response to User:203.118.57.182: Please understand that firstly you vandalised the page Fabio Grosso which was reverted by another editor. You then applied four links to the article under a single sentence. In my message to you, I advised you that Wikipedia is not a mere collection of external links. Please refer to those sections along with WP:VER, WP:RS and WP:NPOV before adding any more links. I would also suggest that you discuss any additions that you propose on that article's talk page. Thanks. -- Alias Flood 02:38, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question

What is the talk page supposed to do, necessarily? ~Tromboneplayer

Hello, Tromboneplayer, and thank you for your message. You will find useful information at Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines
Here are a few good links for newcomers:
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  Alias Flood 02:03, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
You still haven't my question ...
--Tromboneplayer 02:07, 8 July 2006 (UTC)Tromboneplayer
You asked me, "What is the talk page supposed to do, necessarily?". I gave you a link to Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. What further clarification do you require? I am also curious as to why you selected me for this particular question?. -- Alias Flood 02:12, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Look, we both know I'm no Einstein at the subject, and you've had much more experience at this whole thing than me.
The thing that troubles me about Wikipedia that - even though it may protect flame wars - the Neutral Point of View Policy is a bit ... strict. Yes, I know this is just like an encyclopedia on the computer (praise the heavens it has come) and I like Wikipedia a lot - it's my favorite website. But on articles like the Holocaust and stuff like that ( I have a connection to it because my grandmother is a survivor ), I really have trouble not giving non-biased facts, so I basically only look and not touch. Wikipedia is so limited to me, not in the humber of articles, but with what you can do.
Also, I am terribly sorry for the deliberate vandilism - and yes, I did do it intentionally - I caused on the RuneScape page several times. I did it because I wanted to see what messages would be sent to me as a result of what I did. I was only curious ( though it gives me no excuse ) and that's why we're all on Wikipedia, isn't it? Because we're a little curious on what the world is.
--Tromboneplayer 02:25, 8 July 2006 (UTC)Tromboneplayer
Thank you for your explanation. I reverted an edit on RuneScape [1] as it did not conform to NPOV by User:70.83.159.47 and left a message thanking them for experimenting ... etc. [2]. I did this as part of Wikipedia:Recent changes patrol. I now understand that you were that editor. Please check out Help:Talk page which will answer more questions for you on talk pages. I am glad that you enjoy Wikipedia and I hope that you will check out the other links that I left for you. The thought of everyone giving knowledge freely from which everyone may benefit is a wonderful thing. I understand that feelings sometimes get in the way but it is then wise to take time to reflect and gather one's thoughts ... before, perhaps, objectively discussing matters on an article's talk page. If you ever need my help, I will be only too happy to oblige. -- Alias Flood 02:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for all of your help

I'm glad there are people like you here to help me around at Wikipedia, and I'm glad that WIkipedia talkpages aren't like regular chat rooms or forums, where anything goes.

Peace.

--Tromboneplayer 03:56, 8 July 2006 (UTC)Tromboneplayer

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rob Mayth

Just wanted to let you know that you made two identical entries on the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rob Mayth page - once at 03:36, 8 July 2006 (UTC), and once at 16:52, 8 July 2006 (UTC). Unless there really are two of you, in which case, carry on. ... discospinster talk 17:41, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your note about my duplicate entry on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rob Mayth. I have returned to the page and <s> my entry with apologies. Again, my thanks to you. -- Alias Flood 17:57, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] World Cup Sponsorship AfD

Hi, I just wanted to tell you that I’ve made some rather large additions to 2006 FIFA World Cup sponsorship and would appreciate if you could take a look at them and possibly reconsider your comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2006 FIFA World Cup sponsorship. I thought it was a worthy topic, even though it had a wretched article, so I added information about revenue and the sponsorship process, the sponsor related controversies of this World Cup (tickets distribution, Budweiser in Germany, Mcdonalds at a sporting event), and took out the copyvios. Please take a look. Thanks! Vickser 19:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

I have also changed my comment from Delete to Keep. Thank you for your work and for letting me know of the changes. -- Alias Flood 22:09, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] totd

I moved your totd template over soo it was no longer overlaping your userboxes, I hope you don't mind! Mike McGregor (Can) 06:14, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your note and, also, for arranging my totd box so that it does not foul the view of my userboxes. I must confess that it did not obstruct the view on my own monitor but, with hindsight, I should have made sure that this would be the case for everyone. Thank you for resolving this for me. It really is appreciated. Regards -- Alias Flood 00:16, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

I keep seeing you around doing good work, whether its reverting vandalism on an article on my watchlist or improving Liverpool related topics. I considered nominating you for adminship, but these days people rarely seem to pass unless they've been active for at least six months, irrespective of how good a candidate they are. Have a barnstar for now, and remind me to nominate you on RFA in a month or two! Oldelpaso 18:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

The Running Man Barnstar
For all round great work on football topics, I award
you this barnstar Oldelpaso 18:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Jjmath

who are you? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jjmath (talk • contribs) 15:43, 16 July 2006.

[edit] cyLEDGE

The cyLEDGE article has now been edited to take into account justified criticisms by several users. Please accept our apologies for what may have seemed excessive or unclear marketing jargon (the jargon which, for better or worse, we are most familar with...), and have done our best to follow the Wiki Style manual. Though cyLEDGE contains the company site as an external link, it is not so much a marketing campaign than it is an attempt to communicate what we are doing and get reactions from other people working or interested in the field. Since there is a natural affinity to cyLEDGE's activities and open-platforms such as Wikipedia, it is important for us to be present there - an additional paragraph has been added to make as clear as possible what the issues at stake are, and which we are trying to come to terms with. I hope you will reconsider your proposed deletion in view of these changes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Knusper (talk • contribs) 17:05, 17 July 2006.

Comment (posted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CyLEDGE) "attempt(ing) to commnunicate what we are doing" still appears to be marketing and falls foul of WP:NOT, especially this section. Even with the rewrite, the article continues to fail WP:CORP -- Alias Flood 17:34, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello - it's me again

I just wanted to know how to make those little boxes on the right side of the screen where it says "This User..." and everything. When you find the time, can you please message me and give me the information so that I may find out. Thank you.

--Tromboneplayer 00:00, 21 July 2006 (UTC)Tromboneplayer

Hi Trombeplayer,
I am glad that you took me up on my offer of help. I meant it when it was offered.
This link will give you an overview and this link will advise you of the controversies that some boxes can have. This link will take you to an index of the galleries where you will find userboxes to suit most descriptions and purposes.
Putting a userbox on your page is easy. Simply copy and paste them into an information table like this:-
{{Boxboxtop|About Tromboneplayer}}
{{user trombone}}
{{Boxboxbottom}}
Copying and pasting this into your userpage, will produce this picture with words:-
About Tromboneplayer
This user plays the trombone.
...but the picture(s) will be on the right hand side of your page.

I hope that this helps but if you need any more help with anything on Wikipedia, please feel free to drop me a note. Happy editing!

Regards, Alias Flood 00:56, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for all of your help.
I just put down a list of "This User ..." boxes. I have another thing to ask of you, if you don't mind. I want to put down another user box, but the box that says:
Categories: Wikipedians who like The Simpsons
is blocking any more boxes from coming in. Any ideas on what to do?
--Tromboneplayer 02:28, 21 July 2006 (UTC)Tromboneplayer
Hi again, Tromboneplayer,
From your note, I have put some boxes in an info box for you on your userpage so you can see how they work. I hope that this helps.
Regards, Alias Flood 03:17, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pete Kellogg

Hello You voted Delete and redirect on article Peter Kellogg. Please explain? ThanksTrade2tradewell 07:18, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello Trade2tradewell.
Having looked for (this) Peter Kellogg on Google, the only claim to notability that I could find for him was that he was rich largely due to his father. I can see that his father's firm meets WP:CORP (although the article on Spear, Leeds & Kellogg is minimal both in size and quality). I do not see that this person merits an article in his own right but I do not object to the redirect to Spear, Leeds & Kellogg that was proposed by this AfD's nominator.
Regards -- Alias Flood 03:51, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello
Some work needed to be done on the Peter Kellogg article.
I have fixed it. Tell me what you think now.
Thanks
--Trade2tradewell 14:35, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your note. In light of this, I have amended my comment to Keep per expansion and cited notability. Thank you also for cleaning up the article in the way that you have. -- Alias Flood 01:01, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Football AID 23 July - 30 July

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[edit] Jermaine Pennant

With regard to Pennants move to Liverpool, I did indeed provide a reference, Sky Sports. This was offered in good faith, as I assumed it was a reliable source. I did not know that the BBC had the monopoly on such news. I didn't just "hear it on TV" as you said, I saw it on what I believed was a reputable site.--Robotforaday 16:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Please accept my apologies. Your edit was one of many to Jermaine Pennant and Liverpool F.C. during the last 24 hours. From your edit summary, I wrongly interpreted that you had seen the information on Sky News TV. Again, my apologies to you. -- Alias Flood 16:48, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Don't worry, I understand. For future reference, what sources are deemed most appropriate for citation? I have now cited the BBC, which seems the most preferred, however, I also used the news on the Liverpool F.C. official website. Would that have been acceptable? I can understand why Sky Sports might not always be 100% trusted...--Robotforaday 17:12, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello Robotforaday and thank you for your understanding. As with most things on Wikipedia, there are few set rules but one of the core policies is verfiability which links in closely with the guideline on reliable sources. Reading these helps editors to understand that 'verifying sources' should have a degree of longevity and be held in high regard as being reputable. In the main, for Wikipedia, I tend to look for sources such as the BBC, The Times, The Guardian, The Independent, etcetera and shy away from the tabloids (unless the article is linked to tabloids). For football articles, the official website can also be a good source for announcements — whereas forums, blogs, fansites and unofficial sites tend not to be reliable. It is very important, in my opinion and that of many other editors, for Wikipedia not to reflect personal opinion or original research and to that end Wikipedia, along with most reputable enclopaedias, acts as a tertiary source summarising the secondary sources of such well reputed publications. Other links which you may find useful, and generally acceptable for football articles, are those at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Links. I hope that this information helps you in some way and, also, helps to make up for my earlier mistake. Please let me know if I may be of any further help to you in this or any matter here on Wikipedia. Regards -- Alias Flood 02:47, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Acadame North artical

Your comment about Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Acadame north the micronation being a 'possible hoax' has disturbed me Acadame North has about 6-8 pages all on the search engine msn I have found a lot more blogs about it too. Acadame North has a 250 article Constitution along with a 300 article criminal code. Acadame North also proudly displays satellite imagery of our nation. I hope this is sufficient proof that Acadame North is not a hoax questions comments please go on my talk page thanks--Acadamenorth 21:51, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

For my reference: This relates to a debate on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Acadame north that was closed on 8 July 2006. "The result of the debate was Deleted by acclamation." The article, Acadame north, has been deleted and the page has been protected to prevent recreation. This user's talk page is continually blanked by the user who has also been warned for vandalism. Alias Flood 22:20, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Michael Carrick

Hi, just wondering if you would give me some backing here. I've reverted 2 edits already from User:71.136.228.139 how keeps changing Carricks page to say he players with Manchester united. If he does again could you please give him a warning as my warnings so far don't seem to have any effect.

Thanks

Niall123 22:38, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Beatles

You and your fair and balanced editing! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.164.86.38 (talk • contribs) 04:25, 31 July 2006.

Hi there and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your note about The Beatles. Please allow me to explain a little more. When I made this edit, I left you a note thanking you for experimenting with the page and I explained that your post had been reverted. I suggested that you make further tests in the sandbox which many new users find useful as well as referring you to the welcome page. Your edit claiming that "Thiers is huge amounts of evidence to suggest that the Beatles where are the greatest band of all time." did not cite sources and was considered, therefore, not to conform to a neutral point of view. A neutral point of view is required for all articles and the onus for providing sources lies with the editor making the claim. I notice that your edit was reverted also by User:Akamad here for the same reasons. Please take a moment to look over your contributions for spelling, grammatical, and punctuation errors before submitting them in final. This will help lessen the amount of copyediting work that fellow Wikipedians need to do, and will help improve the overall appearance of Wikipedia. This is not meant to be a disciplinary message, but merely a friendly request. Thank you!
I hope that this explains things more for you. Here are some other links that newcomers find useful:
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. You might also find it useful to create an account which affords many benefits. Again, welcome!  Alias Flood 23:41, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your BS Warn Against Me

This warning you gave me was utter bullshit. All I did was add an apostrophe to in certain places in Centurion Tank in the section about the Sho't tank; that is the correct name and previously it had been 'shot'. That is ALL I DID you can check the history for my IP in Centurion Tank and see what I edited (well duh). There's the edits right here. -->

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Centurion_tank&diff=prev&oldid=54296123 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Centurion_tank&diff=prev&oldid=54296081 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Centurion_tank&diff=prev&oldid=54296166

And my contrib page. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=70.118.115.49

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.118.115.49 (talk • contribs) 05:13, 31 July 2006.

My response for reference:

With reference to these edits [3], [4], [5], of over two months ago (21st May) and your note concerning them (31st July), I picked up the amendments as part of my recent changes patrol for vandalism. As the changes were made without any edit summaries, seemingly by an anonymous user (i.e. one without an account), and simply inserted an apostrophe inside of the widely recognised word shot changing it to sho't, they appeared to be nonsense and I left you a note accordingly at that time [6]. For this, I apologise but I am sure that you will be able to understand the confusion. In order to prevent similar misunderstandings, when editing an article on Wikipedia there is a small field labelled "Edit summary" under the main edit-box. It looks like this:Edit summary text box

The text written here will appear on the Recent changes page, in the page revision history, on the diff page, and in the watchlists of users who are watching that article. See m:Help:Edit summary for full information on this feature.

Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed and why, so please always fill in the edit summary field, especially for big edits or when you are making subtle but important changes, like changing dates or numbers or changing familiar words to those not so widely recognised.
In your note to me, you used the term, "This warning you gave me was utter bullshit." Please familiarise yourself with Wikipedia's policy on civility which you will find does not tolerate such rudeness.
Please also remember to sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. -- Alias Flood 00:36, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Football AID 8 August - 15 August

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[edit] Please Help

Hi. Well, I haven't gone on this site for a while and I wanted to edit this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.T._Tinney I don't know why it's protected from editing. Please help find what the problem is and me get the page back. Thanks. (SKITTLES 18:58, 7 August 2006 (UTC))

Hello Skittles,
It would appear that the article to which you refer has been deleted — although I do not recollect being a part of that particular debate. Wikipedia:Deletion review considers appeals to restore pages that have been deleted. It also considers disputed decisions made in deletion-related fora. Before using the Review, it is advisable to familiarise yourself with Wikipedia:Deletion policy and Wikipedia:Undeletion policy. I hope that this helps to point you in the right direction. Regards, Alias Flood 19:07, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry..I don't really recall. So you're saying that it had been deleted before but Wikipedia is getting them back? If so, why are they protected? (SKITTLES 19:11, 7 August 2006 (UTC))

It is unclear whether the article has been deleted on more than one occasion but the page is now protected from recreation by any editor without them first going through the processes detailed in my earlier note. I hope that this helps. Regards, Alias Flood 19:28, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Liverpool F.C.

Hi there. Just noticed that you have just archived the June and July discussions on Talk:Liverpool F.C. into Talk:Liverpool F.C./Archive 2. For your information I followed the move procedure of archiving, rather than the cut and paste procedure, because that will allow the discussion history to be preserved on the archive page rather than on the talk page, and this should make it easier and more direct to trace the edit history of the topics on the archive pages. IMHO it'd be better to follow one procedure for a talk page for consistency's sake. What do you think? --Pkchan 15:02, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi there, Pkchan. I wanted to start another archive as the page had reached 93 kilobytes but as so many of the conversations are current or ongoing, I did not want to leave the main talk page without a history. As you no doubt know, the end result of both procedures is the same except that the page history is also moved to the subpage when the move procedure is used rather than the cut and paste procedure. As there were also conversations that needed to be moved to Talk:Liverpool F.C./Archive 1 as well as to Talk:Liverpool F.C./Archive 2, I decided to use the move procedure. Regards -- Alias Flood 17:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kenny Dalglish

Changed declined back to refuse, if you click on the link at the end you should find the following in a Guardian article:

' Dalglish, a former Footballer of the Year, then refused to give police a statement.' —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.156.33.151 (talk • contribs) 18:11, 15 August 2006.

Regarding the word "refused", I had changed it purely because of the grammar as the following sentence had continued with "also declined". I see that you have amended that now and I am happy with changes. I hope that this article may now become stable. Happy editing! Regards Alias Flood 17:35, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism?

I looked up an article, and it said I had a new message: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:144.134.89.65&redirect=no Is this aimed at me? I never saw the 1984 article, nor edited it. Dying for an explanation! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 144.134.89.65 (talk • contribs) 11:58, 19 August 2006.

Thank you for your message regarding my note dated 27 May 2006 regarding vandalism to Nineteen Eighty-Four. I have looked back through my records and I see that my note referred to this edit. At the foot of the page upon which you will find these notes, you will find the following text: This is the discussion page for an anonymous user, identified by the user's numerical IP address. Some IP addresses change periodically, and may be shared by several users. If you are an anonymous user and feel that irrelevant comments have been directed at you, please create an account or log in to avoid future confusion with other anonymous users. If you're concerned with privacy, registering also hides your IP address. I trust that these details explain things satisfactorily. Regards -- Alias Flood 21:32, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wishful thinking

to be fair to the guy, he was correct. Liverpool were top today, for a while... aLii 22:57, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of beat 'em ups undeletion request

I have nominated List of beat 'em ups to be undeleted, under the reasoning that it is not redundant to the category; it contains many games which are not covered by the category, and may never be able to be covered by it. In addition, the list can do more than the category. It can put date, developer, release date, system, et al., useful especially for articles that would be difficult to create an article for. I hope that you will vote on this and hopefully support its undeletion, on the basis that it does something that makes it not redundant to the category. [7] - A Link to the Past (talk) 22:24, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article for Deletion

I honestly thought you wanted it down there. It looks like a thing for the bottom of the page. Kingjeff 18:31, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

You've accused me of vandalising a site that I've never been to! I'm thinking some spammer has you believing I'm someone else.

Ah the web...

Dean

[edit] Wikipedia talk:Notability (people)#Regarding notability of Football (soccer) players

Hi, seeing you are interested in football this is an invitation to contribute to this discussion to clarify certain issues about football player notability. I think clearer guidelines are needed to avoid repeated inappropriate nominations for deletion and time consuming discussions. Cheers! StephP 20:06, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

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