User talk:Ali doostzadeh/Archive 2

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[edit] cool

finally archived it..--alidoostzadeh 21:04, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Salam

I wanted to say that I am very happy persons like you are around. I also thank you for your support to the truth. It was a;lso very nice of you knowing that aside georgian, also bakhtiari and Armenian is used in fereydunshahr county, however the city and the towns and villages which i mentioned still speak Georgian. I have also read some other of your editions. I meet forward to read more from you and maybe meet you in real time. Please feel free to contact me at my yahoo anytime Babakexorramdin 23:22, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Translation

Salam. Man yek tarjome ba moqayese se tarjome qabli neveshteam. Lotfan nazardahid.talk:Iranian revolution#chosen translation--Sa.vakilian 03:53, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Translation (for moderators since this is wikipedia english): Peace. I have written a translation and compared to three previous translations. Please give me your opinion. --alidoostzadeh 04:10, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kiarostami

Hi Ali! I am going to nominate this for FA soon. It is now under peer review. It would be nice if you could take a look at it and comment on it. Ba sepaas. Sangak 14:47, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Ali jan, dastet dard nakoneh. list e film ha ro ghablan dorost kardam ke badan be iek safheie joda tabdil shod: Filmography of Abbas Kiarostami. Rastee iek maghaleie jaleb peida kardam darbareie naghshe Irani ha dar French New Wave. iek section be Iranian cinema ezafeh kardam dar morede asar irani ha rooie French cinema! Take care! Sangak 09:31, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Personal Attack

Can you please provide diffs? Khoikhoi 09:57, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I think it would be better if you acted InShaneee to handle it this time; I'm pretty busy right now. Khoikhoi 10:16, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bukhtishu

Ali jan! Take a look at Bukhtishu. He is Iranian, isn't he? Sangak 21:04, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Also Yuhanna ibn Bukhtishu. Sangak 21:04, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
The user admits that Yuhanna ibn Bukhtishu is not Arab (see the edit history), still added him to the List of Arab scientists and scholars!!Sangak 21:04, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Persian transliteration

Salam!

Please see [1]. We need to change the WP:MoS for Persian transliteration. MoS forces us to use Arabic transliteration for Persian words. It makes no sense. Please see the problem I have now on transliteration of Kiarostami. [2] Sangak 12:21, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Let's make a guideline: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Persian) / WP:MOS-PE. ANy idea? Sangak 12:37, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
I copy/pasted the Arabic guideline to my user:page. let's work here first and then propose it. User:Sangak/Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Persian)Sangak 12:45, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Safavids

Hi Ali. This is my suggestion:

[edit] References

  1. ^ Encyclopaedia Iranica. R. N. Frye. Peoples of Iran.
  2. ^ Iran in History by Bernard Lewis
  3. ^ "... Although many languages and dialects are spoken in the country, and different forms of social life, the dominant influence of the Persian language and culture has created a solidarity complex of great strength. [...] Likewise the Baluch, Turkmen, Armenians and Kurds, although with bonds to their kinsmen on the other side of borders, are conscious of the power and richness of Persian culture and willing to participate in it. ..." Encyclopaedia Iranica. R. N. Frye. Peoples of Iran.
  4. ^ "Why is there such confusion about the origins of this important dynasty, which reasserted Iranian identity and established an independent Iranian state after eight and a half centuries of rule by foreign dynasties?" R.M. Savory, Iran under the Safavids (Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, 1980), Page 3
  5. ^ R.M. Savory, "Ṣafawids", in Encyclopaedia of Islam, Online Edition, 2006: "... the Safawids restored Persian sovereignty over the whole of the area traditionally regarded as the heartlands of Persia for the first time since the Arab conquest of Persia [...] During the whole of that time, only once, during what Minorsky termed "Iranian intermezzo", did a dynasty of Persian origin prevail over much of Iran [...] For the rest, Persia was ruled by a succession of Arab caliphs, and Turkish and Mongol sultans and khans ..."
  6. ^ "... The Turkish speakers of Azerbaijan (q.v.) are mainly descended from the earlier Iranian speakers, several pockets of whom still exist in the region. A massive migration of Oghuz Turks in the 11th and 12th centuries not only Turkified Azerbaijan but also Anatolia. The Azeri Turks are Shiites and were founders of the Safavid dynasty ...". Encyclopaedia Iranica. R. N. Frye. Peoples of Iran.
  7. ^ "The origins of the Safavids are clouded in obscurity. They may have been of Kurdish origin (see R. Savory, Iran Under the Safavids, 1980, p. 2; R. Matthee, "Safavid Dynasty" at iranica.com ), but for all practical purposes they were Turkish-speaking and Turkified." Encyclopaedia Iranica. Iran. The Safavids (1501-1722)

I believe that this is the best and most neutral version. Everything is sourced and all major points are mentioned. What do you think? We could even add a few words about Turcoman militancy to it ... then everything should be fine. Please also see my comments to Grandmaster Tājik 17:34, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kiarostami: FAC

Hi

I would like to invite all those who reviewed "Abbas Kiarostami" during last two months to comment on the article at this "final" stage. The article is now featured article candidate. In case you have any comment, please let me know on the Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Abbas Kiarostami page. Thanks.Sangak 16:17, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bidel Dehlavi

Hi Ali User:Ariana and I had a discussion on Bidel Dehlavi. I think Bidel has a stronger presence in Afghan music than Music of Iran. Apart from that Bidel has a strong presence in Iran similar to Saeb Tabrizi. User:Arania does not accept it. He thinks Bidel's poetry is incomprehensible to Iranians. Also he does not accept having "Bidel" in the article and replaced it with "Bedil". Just in case you have time please take a look at Bidel's talk page. Thanks. Sangak 13:41, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

A link to an Afghan researcher's article [3] also see [4] Sangak 13:59, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RfC - Iranian Azerbaijan

I opened the Request for Comment as a step in dispute resolution on page Iranian Azerbaijan [5] Please provide brief statement of your arguments in first section (Statements by editors previously involved in dispute) The section "Comment" for third party opinion not involved in dispute thus far. You may wish to get acquianted with rules pertaining to RfC [6]--Dacy69 22:53, 1 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Kiarostami was promoted!

Salam

Another Featured article for Iran :-)

I need to thank you for your kind support. Thanks and All the best. Sangak Talk 11:33, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Azerbaijan (Iran)

Feel free to add those sources to the article then. Just make sure you don't make the intro too complicated. I think the main point is that people in the Republic of Azerbaijan call it "Southern Azerbaijan" (such as GAMOH), and Iranians resent this. Khoikhoi 19:33, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay done. But I do think it should be moved to the new section usage and etymology. The official position of Iran should be respected in such articles. Also I do not see the reason why controversial matter should be delat with in multiple articles. --alidoostzadeh 19:37, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Persian)

Please participate in the discussion. Jahangard 21:46, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Come on, for obvious reasons. He just keeps helping Iran-Related article and I appriciate that. Arad 03:09, 10 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Kurds in Turkey

which info are you talking about? Are you guys (you and Heja Helweda) referring to the {{main}} ed parts? They were copy of the main articles of those rebellions. There were already some {{main}}'s. I added some more. If it is something else, let's add that information as well. If it is about Heja Helweda's recent addition, I put the reference somewhere up there in the text, if you guys (gals) want to, we can add the following sentence:

Since 1984 Kurdish resistance to Turkification has encompassed both a peaceful political struggle to obtain basic civil rights for Kurds within Turkey and a violent armed struggle to obtain a separate Kurdish state.

I thought this was a repeat, now I see it may not be. Maybe, we should explain what other basic civil rights (other than language related ones) were lacking specially for Kurdish people after 1983. --deniz 05:30, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Once again it's me, Deniz. This time it's about your revert to Khoikhoi's edit on Turkey article. The book is available on Amazon.com, and we can 'Search Inside'. I checked page 199, and I edited accordingly. Can you please revert back, I should not do it, I am on the verge of breaking 3RR. I am happy about this 3RR rule, we get to have a chance to talk maybe because of that :), but you are not talking back. Does doostzadeh mean 'son of best friend'?

ps. search for 'most scholars' on the book's Amazon.com Search Inside site. deniz 03:27, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR

I wanted to advise you that you are at your limit for reverts for the day. If you revert one more edit, you will be in violation of the 3RR. I mention it so as to give you the opportunity to calm down. You are encountering resistance to your removals, and that should indicate that it isn't some conspiracy blocking you. There are people who feel for the correct reasons that the statements should be included. You should take the time to read them before either getting yourself blocked for 3RR or ending up in an edit war, which doesn't aid the article. I didn't need to tell you this, Ali. I wanted to, in the hopes that you understand that people can disagree with you and still be correct. I hope you can find a way to contribute positively to the article in the future. -Arcayne 02:42, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Nowruz

Hi, I think it is now enabled. Newroza ve jî pîroz be! Asoyrun 18:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please don't use insulting edit summaries

This sort of edit summary, which you left in Newroz as celebrated by Kurds, is not acceptable. Instead of engaging in these attacks, please invite Heja helweda to the talk page of the article. Thanks, – Riana shiny disco balls 05:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Hi Ali

Isn't [7] this true? Thanks. Asoyrun 14:14, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Population numbers

I do not want to insist on this, but just take a look at the population chart in that page. The numbers simply do not add up to 54 million. This only damages the credibility of a good article. Just for one moment forget about my presence and sum up the numbers in the table, you will see what I mean. Cheers.Heja Helweda 05:52, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay you might be right. --alidoostzadeh 02:07, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
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