Talk:Alfredo Astiz

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I've commented out the qualifications "horrific and indiscriminate" referring to the violence exerted at the ESMA. While it was surely horrific, I think that's an emotional word that does not belong here (besides, descriptive words like "torture" and "concentration camp" already deliver the message). And "indiscriminate", in the strict sense, seems wrong and positively POV-pushing. I don't want to fall into the infamous pro-military justification, algo habrán hecho ("they must've done something"), known to all Argentinians, but I would not state flatly that people were kidnapped "indiscriminately", i. e. at random. This would imply that the goal was not subversion control, but simply terrorizing the general public with the idea that anybody could disappear, at any time. If there is serious research showing evidence of that, it should be referenced here (and of course everywhere else, as in Proceso de Reorganización Nacional and Dirty War). --Pablo D. Flores 12:41, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Usually "indiscriminate" is used because of the military ends-justify-measures policy of kidnapping family members or friends of presumed montoneros and keept abducted for several weeks, and also tortured, only to gain information about the location of the terrorists. Perhaps it should be better explained. -Mariano 14:31, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Needs to mention when he was born. This page has a date but (a) I don't know if its correct and (b) I would rather point out flaws in Wikipedia than help it.

Where does he live?

Last thing I knew, he's under arrest in the Zárate Naval Base, and some were asking that he and the rest of the military accused of Dirty War crimes be moved to regular prisons so they don't take advantage of their contacts in the Armed Forces. [1] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pablo-flores (talk • contribs) 20:06, 27 January 2007 (UTC).

Wasn't he locked up in the Tower of London briefly after his capture during the Falklands war? If so, well worth mentioning - its dungeons are among the world's most famous and historic.

I highly doubt that the Tower of London is used to house prisoners any more. I think Hess was the last one 60 years ago. Darkmind1970 09:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)