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[edit] External link on Astoria, Queens

I removed the link you placed: Community profile from Long Island Exchange in the external links section b/c it's not a community site, but a commercial one. According to them:

Long Island Exchange, a subsidiary of Searchen Networks Inc., is a special interest media and publishing company focused on the business and entertainment markets here on Long Island New York.

Alcarillo 20:31, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I do recognize that this company is a business, but then again so is The New York Times and Newsday and Amazon.com, all sources of other links on this same page that I added and that no one seems to object to. What is it about Long Island Exchange that would make nondescript links from their site linkspam but the others OK. Please note that I have no connection to Long Island Exchange, other than as a source for some neighborhood information that I have not found anywhere else in an organized fashion. Alansohn 22:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Idema

I'm new to wikipedia and have been editing the article on Jonathan Idema alone for a couple of days. I was wondering if you could take a look and tell me what you think. It has a long way to go, but I think it is moving in a good direction. It had issues with neutral point of view and lack of source citation, and still does. I've been adding references and have neutralized some wording.

I'd like to add one of those "TF7 not for release" photos you see here Google Image results. The photos come from an ABC website, but I don't know who holds rights to them.

Thanks, Xpanzion 04:41, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for everything you did for the Idema article. I really appreciate you bringing your wikipedian experience to the article. I'm proud of the progress we made! Xpanzion 17:50, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

That's what it's all about. :) Alcarillo 18:54, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I think it's pretty funny that someone listed your username as an alias of Joseph A. Cafasso. It would be obvious to this blogger that you aren't Cafasso if they looked at your history, they would see that you were not involved in the article until moderation became necessary. They would also see that your edits are not acrimonious, like much of the material in the old versions. Xpanzion 21:11, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I'll work on getting rid of those bullets sometime. Xpanzion 21:11, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Sadly, there's a lot that should be obvious to person like this blogger. Oh well... Alcarillo 00:15, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Military brat

Two threads archived here: User talk:Alcarillo/Military brat


[edit] St. Simons

I'm pretty sure it is "Mallory". I'll try to check the street signs sometime when I'm over there. The phone book has Mallory. Bubba73 (talk), 05:41, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply! That was my inkling as well. Then I found this [1]; no "Mallory" at all (??). And same the US Census -- only "Mallery". I'm wondering if it's just a peculiarity that in local custom both are acceptable but in "ofishal" circles it's Mallory. I've some family on SSI -- I'll check with them, too... Alcarillo
It is "o" on the roadmap too (as well as the phone book). I live about 15 miles from there, but I'm over there a couple times per week. I'll try to look at a road sign. Bubba73 (talk), 17:33, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
This is the feedback I got from one of my family members:

"ANSWER: BOTH! Yes, it is one of the unique and charming features of the St. Simons Village...some parts of the road are spelled with the "o" and others with the "e". I read the folklore on it some time ago, but can't remember what the hell it is all about. Makes for some interesting small chat."

There you have it! :D Alcarillo 20:06, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
I crossed the street today and I intended to look, but I forgot to. Bubba73 (talk), 20:03, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Another interesting thing with streets is Demery Demere on st. Simons. People who live here pronounce it "DIM ir ee". Outsiders invariably say "dee MIR". So if they say the latter, we lean over menacingly and inquire "you're not from around here, are you?" Bubba73 (talk), 16:22, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I know -- it happened to me many years ago. I just received a shake of the head and a fairly polite chuckle. (It's "Demere", BTW... ;)) My guess is that it's a French word in origin, spelled "Demeré" at one time. Alcarillo 17:53, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:BLP Violation warning

Regarding this edit:

You have made an edit that could be regarded as defamatory. Please do not restore this material to the article or its talk page. If you do, you may be blocked for disruption. See the blocking policy. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 22:17, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

How silly. I've replied on your talk page. Alcarillo 22:30, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

moved from my talk page

I'm puzzled why you would label this edit to Joseph A. Cafasso as defamatory. I'm not accusing him of anything, just pointing out that his name comes up in many blogs, and that it's not favorable. Anyone googling his name can see that clearly this guy is drawing fire for some reason. Alcarillo 22:32, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I am not familiar with this person, but your edit is in violation of WP:BLP. Blogs are not considered valid sources, (See WP:ATT#Reliable_sources). If you find such allegations described in reliable published sources, you can attribute these allegations to these sources. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 23:53, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
The point of the paragraph was that Cafasso is drawing substantial ire from certain quarters on the web. The article never made any assertions that what was being said about him were true or not. It's like posting information on Henry Kissinger that some people believe he should be tried for war crimes. Alcarillo 00:02, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
This was your edit:

Recently, Cafasso has been the subject of numerous blogs attacking him for his activities, even labeling him a con artist. He has also drawn negative attention from websites sympathetic to convicted mercenary Jonathan Idema. Although prior to Idema's incarceration, there appears to be no direct relationship between the two. It is currently not known whether Cafasso has been prosectuted for criminal offenses.

You are asserting on that edit that he has been called a "con artist" by some blogs. But blogs are not to be used as sources for controversial material about living persons. You also added: It is currently not known whether Cafasso has been prosectuted for criminal offenses. that is in contradiction with our policy of original research. You are a good contributor, don't take me wrong. Just please be extra cautious when editing biographies of living people. That's all. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 00:08, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Granted. Still, I would have preferred you raised this with me here before issuing the warning. Alcarillo 00:11, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
But I did.... here ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 00:13, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
I've never had to deal with Wikipedia admins before, and I'd like to bring in some other voices because frankly, we are at an impasse. What are my options to seek redress of your actions regarding this article? Alcarillo 03:00, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
If you have concerns about the actions of any admin, you can place a notice at WP:ANI. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 03:22, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
But if your concern is about the edit itself, you could place a request for comment so that other editors can weigh in. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk)

Alcarillo, WP:BLP is a policy that is taken very seriously at Wikipedia, and it explicitly excludes blogs as a source for negative claims about living people. Unsourced speculation about whether someone "has been prosecuted for criminal offenses" is also clearly prohibited. Jossi has been kind enough to gently point that out to you, rather than taking stronger action. What other action do you feel needs to be taken at this point? Jayjg (talk) 03:50, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

It's just more of circular policy logic from the WP Politburo, unfortunately. Alcarillo 18:46, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
That was not nice, and not useful, Alcarillo. Is there anything that you need clarification about that I help clarify? ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 20:37, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
No. We're through here. Alcarillo 21:11, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Public record re: Cafasso

I sourced a non-speculation that Cafasso has spent time in the Middlesex County NJ jail with a link to the phone number of the jail's records room. Speculation as to whether Cafasso has a criminal record (he doesn't) does not come out of the blue. Sourcing with the records room phone number was deemed unacceptable. (Original research, maybe?) Pleasantville 15:58, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

No, I don't think that would qualify as proof. It would have to be records made public and published somewhere (I have no idea whether court records are available to anyone but people in the courts system), or if there was a newspaper article that referenced the case. Alcarillo 16:14, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
A lot of this stuff is just plain public record, but one has to deal with whatever kind of bad website the govenment agency throws at you. In the case of the Middlesex County jail, members of the general public can call the records room and obtain information (or confirmation of information), but to get it in writing from them requires a court order. Also, they will not tell you the reason for incarceration. Why these restrictions? I don't know. But the basic info is available to the general public. As nearly as I can tell, Wikipedia considers making a phone call original research, whereas Googling isn't. Also, voyaging into government public records databases is considered original research, whereas citing the smallest hometown paper isn't, as long as it's on the web.
Since I have other venues of publication, I won't even go as far as saying that this is disturbing to me, since I don't have to live by these standards. But there is plenty out there that is quite verifiable that doesn't meet the standards of Wikipedia editors like Jossi with whose positions on citation I disagree.
There's a lot of patent nonsense that makes it into the mainstream media; citations of court cases, public records, etc. should trump random newspaper articles. But often the public records databases are the worst implemented on the web. (This is especially true of things like corporate registries. Ever tried to use the Panama corporate registry?!? And then there are the Florida and Nevada registries. Yuk.)
From my standpoint, public record = verifiable. I think if you are dealing with matters of public record, even of records that are difficult to get at, Admins should be gentler in their tone. Pleasantville 18:56, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
This is not an issue of "admin gentleness". It is an issue of complying with our content policies. That's it. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 20:39, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Public records are "primary sources" and so need to be handled with great care, if at all. Secondary sources are much preferred for encyclopedia writing. Typical problems with public records include not being sure if the person mentioned is the same as the subject, taking single episodes out of context by not including the outcomes, etc. If the topic is notable there will be secondary sources available. -Will Beback · † · 00:26, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
  • rolls eyes; tears hair out* Pleasantville 20:04, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I've been accused recently of actually being Cafasso by one of Idema's wannabe minions. If that were the case, I could definitively say whether or not Cafasso has a criminal record, but it would still be of no use b/c it's a "primary source." LOL!!!!! Alcarillo 21:38, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Yeah. I saw that. The conspiracy theories never stop in that orbit. Welcome to the conspiracy. (If I am simultaneously stalking JC and his co-conspirator, wouldn't -- like -- know if you were JC? Maybe you are sececretly JI impersonating JC impersonating Alcarillo . . .) Pleasantville 00:01, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gary Gordon/Randy Shughart ribbons

The tables look good to me. Betaeleven 15:05, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Robert Young Pelton

Actually... it is a puff piece written by the subject who has been using it as a linkfarm for articles he has written...--Isotope23 19:11, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm not 100% sure it is the actual guy, though. Anyone could have set up that 'RYP' username and populated Wikipedia with Pelton's PR. As for why someone would do that, if it wasn't Pelton himself, just take a look at all the kookiness going around the margins of articles related to the subject of Pelton's License to Kil. Alcarillo 20:18, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Alcarillo/browncoat

Please see WP:USER#Images_on_user_pages. It's not so much bureaucratic idiocy as common sense - we are permitted to claim fair use on copyrighted images to use them in building an encyclopedia, not to decorate personal pages. ˉˉanetode╦╩ 20:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

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