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This is from Stiglitz's Globalization and its discontents. "...... I worked hard to convince those in the National Economic council that it would be a mistake to support O'Neill's idea, and i made great progress. But in a heated subcabinet meeting, a decision was made to support the creation of an international cartel. People in the council of economic advisers and the department of justice were livid. Ann Bingaman, the assistant attorney general for antitrust, put the cabinet on notice that there might been a violation of the antitrust laws in the presence of the subcabinet. Reformers within Russia were adamantly opposed to the establishment of the cartel and had communicated the feelings directly to me......
While i had managed to convince almost everyone of the dangers of the cartel solution, two voices dominated. The state department, with its close ties to the old-line state ministries, supported the establishment of a cartel. Robert Rubin, at the time the head of National Economic council, played a decisive role, siding with the state. At least, for a while the cartel worked. Prices were raised. The profits of Alcoa and other producers were enhanced. The American consumers- and consumers throughout the world-lost, and indeed..........
- Come to think of it, i think we would be screwed if we left these government to save us from M$. Imagine a government, a liberal government for god sake conspiring with a corporation to create a cartel? How would you expect it to break an existing cartel, even if it is within its ability? Really sad world we live in.
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[edit] antitrust
Strange that there's no mention of the antitrust case against Alcoa. I think it was in the 40's. RJII 15:14, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
NPOV - The article reads like a corporate advertisement, note especially the Sustainability and Leadership sections.
[edit] Cleaned up
I cleaned up the article and removed (hopefully) all of the POV info, which looked to be taken from the Alcoa website. Man, that corporate jargon is something, isn't it? Hope everyone is satisfied with the edit. Paul 01:31, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
I added some info about the antitrust case and the monopoly situation . _ Mats
[edit] Location Change
I changed the location to New York and removed the Pittsburgh-based corporations template inclusion, because Pittsburgh is no longer the headquarters. See this Post-Gazette article: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06058/661831-28.stm Dan128 19:29, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
I hesitate to do the second revert in a row but I did individually change this back, NYC is the biggest non-story story I have ever seen (I covered this the day-of go to forums.urbanplanet.org). Go to Alcoa.com and click "CONTACT", go to Alcoa.com and click "GRANTS" they will all give you Pittsburgh addresses. The Global Center has been in New York dating back decades. There is no news here except some line thousand something on page hundred something that states Belda can't entertain in the 412 like he can in the 212. I fail to see how any of that changes the fact that the company keeps insisting its "corporate center" is still Pittsburgh (again please go to the contact website, grant website etc. etc.). Even the corporate locations map has Pittsburgh as the sole red dot in its global empire. In hindsight it seems the PG is trying to sell more pulp to a population that got weaned on stories of Gulf Oil, Westinghouse, Joy, Marathon, Mesta, CNG, and Integra all getting carried out of town by Wall Streeters--or in Integras case by Brown fans, Alcoa might have a maverick CEO but the corporation for all intents and purposes is Pittsburgh based from every financial and Alcoa site available online. If that documentation changes I see no need to list it as Pittsburgh any longer, but until that documentation changes I feel there is no more proof positive one can aquire. Hholt01 04:17, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Question & comment
Firstly, I want to know if Alcoa changed its articles of incorporation from Pa. to NY or just the physical location of its home office, guess that I could find this out myself but hope that someone knows off the top of his or her head.
Secondly, I think that some mention of the change of mix of consumer products needs to be in the article. At one point in the 1960s, Alcoa had its own brands of foil, Alcoa Wrap and the embossed Diamond Foil (motto: "Diamonds are a girl's best friend"). It slowly ceased to put any real marketing clout into these, first abandonning Alcoa Wrap, the Diamond Foil, and seemingly getting out of the consumer market and leaving it to Reynolds, then only later (in the 1980s, I believe) buying the Reynolds Wrap line from its erstwhile competitor. This is remarkable – almost as if Ford had bought from General Motors the right to call its automobiles "Chevys" while abolishing the Ford marque – and really belongs in the article if someone with sufficient knowledge can write it properly. Rlquall 17:04, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
- Yes - not to mention the numerous other items they made such as Kensington Ware [1] and other dishwares etc. --128.230.235.107 18:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sources
There seems to be almost no sourcing of this article. Also, someone keeps deleting the external links page. Please stop. Notmyrealname 16:13, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Alcoa in Australia
This section was deleted which I have just reverted. Please discuss before deleting GrahamP 08:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- This section, while not incorrect doesn't tell the whole story. Alcoa operates through its joint venture with Alumina Ltd which is called Alcoa World Alumina and Chemicals (AWAC), as it does around the rest of the world. This section should be updated to reflect that. A sepearte article exists for AWAC explaining the ownership and management strucutre as well as it's operations. Hence the section on the Portland operations should be moved to that article as well.
- There should only be a simple sentance/paragraph explaining that Alcoa owns 60% AWAC and manages the day to day operations. Strategic direction etc is made in consultation with Alumina Ltd. The other operations in Iceland and South Wales are not owned by Alcoa through AWAC. qwertytam 01:17, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
