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Contents 1 Comments 1.1 Comment 1.2 References & Footnotes 1.3 New article for the church?

[edit] Comments

[edit] Comment

(Note by Andrys: Correction: "Kung Gagik" should be "King Gagik" and I've corrected that on my source page, thanks.)

Thanks, Andrys. Please open up a Wikipedia account & start contributing with your wonderful images! :) mu5ti/✏ 19:27, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)

never mind..! --Mightier than the sword 09:20, 12 April 2006 (UTC), --Mightier than the sword 20:00, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] References & Footnotes

I have removed the footnote references for Hewsen, Robert H. (2001). Armenia: a historical atlas. The work is a tertiary source and all the information about Aghtamar contained within it are already contained in the works cited in the references section. I don't think any of the points that had the those Hewson citations needed citations anyway, since none were contentious. Meowy 02:17, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

It's always nice to have references for facts. I still don't see why you've removed the references. I can imagine some people disputing the fate of the Armenian monks on the island during the Armenian Genocide, as well as people (e.g. the Turkish government, or others working for them) disputing that there was an Armenian catholicos there upto 1915. Serouj 06:36, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

But you don't need references for facts that are undisputed. It just breaks up the flow of the page and (in a way) it suggests that undisputed facts are actually in dispute. I can see a point in having a reference for the 1915 event (so I should not have removed that reference), but better maybe to use a primary source (such as Nogales, who was an eyewitness) rather then a tertiary source like Hewsen Meowy 17:38, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New article for the church?

It might be a good idea to have a new article for the church since it has been restored and that there are quite a few sources in the Internet about it + pictures already.. If there is one already, take no notice, maybe I just missed it.. Baristarim 23:31, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I would wait until the actual re-opening. Meowy 00:34, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

No worries, I was just throwing it out there :) Baristarim 00:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Btw, about the Kurdish pronounciation of the island's name - I have been to Van and can say that most of the local population still pronounce it the original way. That is not a source of course! But I imagine that there must be language websites out there that would indicate that there is no "gh" in modern Turkish, but that there is in Kurdish. Meowy 14:55, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I updated the intro and removed the fact tag for the moment - however I don't know if anyone else will ask for sources. Baristarim 23:01, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

By the way, on follow-up to my note from a week earlier above, there was an article created today at Akdamar church - it included only one paragraph taken from this article, and no improvements on it whatsoever. I went ahead and was bold and redirected here. I thought that there would be no problems since I aired a similar proposal for a new article before. It still stands obviously, but I think we might take another look at it since it is not clear how we will seperate content between articles since the island is only notable because of the church. Obviously, if anyone wants to write a new and longer article for the church, go ahead. Just wanted to note the merge for the record.. Baristarim 22:51, 30 March 2007 (UTC)