Talk:Airport security
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[edit] Several issues
Most large airports have their own police force
- Did the original writer mean that most airports have police on site all the time (undoubtedly true) or that most airports have a dedicated force e.g. the JFK airport police force. If the latter, is this true in the United States. It isn't true in, for example, the UK so should probably be changed. Pete 13:20, 18 Nov 2003 (UTC)
- I don't believe that what the writer meant is important. What matters is what it appears to say. In this case you could take either position. I took it to be their own police and not a dedicated force from the local department. After looking at the intro it seems to have several flaws including the one you mentioned. Another being the use of military. I believe that in some countries the military is the normal security force. I'm going to redo the introduction to try and make this a bit more accurate. Vegaswikian 18:42, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
The world's worst failure of airport security was the September 11th attack on the World Trade Center and The Pentagon using hijacked jetliners.
- This is an awkward one. Didn't the hijackers have no weapons to speak of? If so, in what sense did airport security fail? One could easily argue that, for instance, the Lockerbie bombing was a greater failure. Pete 13:22, 18 Nov 2003 (UTC)
The author may be referring to the box cutters that were used as weapons to intimidate the passengers and crew. Box cutters were legal to carry onboard prior to 9/11. So, I would agree that the article should be revised to reflect this fact.
[edit] Content to merge or ignore
- Removed from Airline Security (which needs review):
Currently, in the United States of America, airline security is largely handled by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), which provides airport security at major airports (400 to 429 airports).
The terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 spurred the adoption of heightened security measures. New technologies were developed prior to September 11, 2001, which would have provided airline security without requiring security screeners at airports. Prior to September 11, 2001, most airlines paid the salaries of the airport's security screeners. TSA is considering allowing the airlines and airports to rehire security screeners because the Federal Government and TSA believe too much money is being spent on security at airports.
- Not sure how much is salvageable or not covered here, but airline security clearly should not duplicate airport security. zoney ♣ talk 15:38, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
[edit] New article?
The world's worst failure of airport security was the September 11th attack on the World Trade Center and The Pentagon using hijacked jetliners.
I think that was true if it is viewed as a failure of policy in that the airports carried out their instructions correctly, but the instructions were flawed. They didn't include a wide enough definition of what a weapon was. Airport and airline security are two sides of the same coin. Perhaps there should be a new article called something like Commercial air transport security which both redirect to. --Jll 16:21, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- indeed, the sept 11 terorrists didnt carry anything onboard that was banned from carrying at the time.. even today, we can carry bottles of wine, a sock full of coins, and fists and feet onboard a commercial aircraft. unbelievable! --Kvuo 02:25, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Airline vs. Airport security
I'm not sure what needs to be done with Airport security and Airline security. I think we need to really look at these two articles and move some of this stuff around, at least for the US operations. It is not clear from the articles where airport security ends and airline security begins. I don't believe that the TSA is responsible for security at the airport. They screen passengers and baggage. They also supply, at least at some airports, the bomb sniffing dogs. Airport security, I believe, is assigned by the FAA to the owner of the airport who then designates the responsible agency or department. The airlines are responsible for the security of their airplanes and must follow directives from the FAA and TSA and probably Customs. Access to secure areas of the airport are controlled by the owner of the airport with direction from some govermental agency. I think it is important to get this correct in the articles. Vegaswikian 07:05, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Recent developments
I think it would be interesting to actually add a bit of how security messures and policy has developed as well as were we stand today. However, I consider most of the airport security nothing but a scam to keep the public calm and what I can come up with just sounds a bit too partial. So I challenge somebody to give a good overview, prefereably with references. P.S. 00:06, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Need for history section?
Hi. It would be interesting to have a history section that outlines the development of the security process and the machinery itself.
[edit] Israel
There needs to be a section for Israel on here. Ben Gurion Airport has the tightest airport security in the world, with some very unique security measures. --Mrskippy 09:50, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
- You read my mind, Skippy --- five months before I had the thought! :-) --Micahbrwn 17:21, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
