Talk:Airbender

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[edit] Susan?

As a caption of a female Airbender airbending, it says the same is Susan. Somebody please remove that there is no evidence of the name and usually names in Avatar the Last Airbender have Asian roots to the name. Also it says "Female Airbending Avatar, "Susan"". Notice the Avatar part of the caption....

And I quote, from The Avatar State, "The creators (jokingly) referred to her as "Avatar Susan" when asked what her name was at the Pacific Media Expo."

She's a past version of the Avatar seen in The Avatar State when Roku showed Aang various past lives of the Avatar, and the creators called her Susan. It wasn't serious, hence the quotes around her name, but that' still what she's called. JBK405 19:52, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

The caption really should either expand upon that or not say it at all, though. Right now the article (captions ARE a part of the article) gives the name, but doesn't put it in the proper context. Those quotes could mean many things, and a reader has no way to know what they mean here (as this discussion proves.) I think, under the circumstances, just removing it would be acceptable.--Fyre2387 (talkcontribs) 21:08, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Apparently the airbending avatar before Aang was named Yangchen. It was posted in avatarspirit after everyone repeatedly guessed at the passwords for the Nick.com game. So it's revealed but prematurely. Anubisus 04:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Airbending, strongest bending?

Someone wrote that airbending is the most powerful form of bending. The fact that all bending types are equal and that it is the skill of the bender that matters has been repeatedly emphasised throughout the series, i am deleting the abovementioned statemeny. - Eldarion Useless link?

[edit] Useless link

"Unlike other bending disciplines, airbending lacks fatal finishing moves, being an almost entirely defensive art. [1]"

that link takes you to a turboNick short about Airbending, but, the video says nothing about Airbending lacking a finishing move. Remove the Link or the Passage entirley.

[edit] Sub-skill?

Does airbending have any sub-skills? No airbending sub-skills were shown in the series (possibly because Aang is the only airbender in it), so we have to assume that airbending does not have a sub-skill, and thus all that "each bending style has a sub-skill unique to their element" statements in other bending articles have to be removed. Sure we know that the fire nation has electrokinesis, waterbenders have healing powers, earthbending has ferrokinesis, but until it is proven that airbending has a sub-skill, to say that each element has a unique sub-skill is purely speculative and should not be in Wikipedia. - Stretchyrubberbands 17:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

It's actually been mentioned somewhere but I can't find the source currently. H2P (Yell at me for what I've done) 17:56, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Wasn't it the way that airbending can be used to augument an airbender's speed? Why isn't Aang's speed mentioned in the article? From an unsigned in Cherries Jubilee.
It probably is the speed boost. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.83.50.157 (talk) 03:13, 31 January 2007 (UTC).
nah, speed boosts are just part of airbending, not a special sub-skill. no more than freezing ice is to waterbending. we could probably do something like "Each of the four bending disciplines(minus airbending) contain a special sub-skill..." but even that doesnt read very well.--Piemanmoo 19:23, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Until there's concrete evidence of an Airbending sub-skill, the "Each of the four bending disciplines contain a special sub-skill..." phrase should be changed. 201.17.29.200 18:05, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Genocide

I don't believe the series states that the Fire Nation was attempting to kill the Avatar during their attack on the Air Nation, as this would simply result in the reincarnation of the Avatar into another nation. Based on Admiral Zhao's comments upon capturing Aang that he would keep him captive and weakened, but alive to prevent his reincarnation, I assumed this was the original objective of the Fire Nation, in addition to the destruction of the Air Nation. Thus, the line claiming the Fire Nation's attack missed killing its intended target should be removed. ColonelCurt 06:37, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Ending the Avatar cycle requires killing every member of a nation, so he was a target by default, but you're right, we've never had any information to say that he was the specific target of the attacks, and we have generic information stating that the Fire Nation wouldn't kill him even if they had the chance. You're right, that part should be altered, at least (Though I think some sort of reference should remain, since he was the ultimate target). JBK405 23:03, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

But didn't the Fire Nation technically kill the avatar cycle. Aang is the last airbender. When the cycle eventually comes around for the avatar to be reborn into the air nomads, as there aren't any left then the cycle will end. Or have I got this wrong. Maybe someone should add this in the article.Bendragonbrown47 19:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Aang could have children and repopulate the race. Either way, what's to happen in the future is pretty much all speculation at this point.--Fyre2387 (talkcontribs) 19:42, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Maybe there are Air Nomads hiding throughout the world. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.83.50.157 (talk • contribs). 03:14, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Weakness

So, how do you weaken an airbender?

[edit] Kuruk

He arbends in Avatarescape.com, so stop talking him off the list. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.107.220.88 (talk) 22:07, 10 March 2007 (UTC).

Honestly, I'm not sure listing everyone ever known to Airbend is nesscary. I mean, the section is Notable Airbenders, not "Every Airbender Ever".--Fyre2387 (talkcontribs) 22:09, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Kuruk is notable.

That's your opinion, I think this edit war here is evidence that not everyone agrees.--Fyre2387 (talkcontribs) 22:18, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Well since ya finally decided to take it to the talk page, I pay you some acknowlegdent, probably didn't spell it right. First off, don't recall ever saying that we never saw Kuruk airbending, I said firebending. Second, face it, if it weren't for this whole made-up-on-the-spot Avatar Event thingie (which by the way had a super-surpising "it'll be like it all never happened" ending), you wouldn't even know the first letter of of the dude's name, which leads me to wonder why you're so zealous towards all this. Seriously, you think you're gonna win a Nobel Prize or somethin? Eh, probably just an Avatard being an Avatard. Yeah so anyway, like its been said before, keyword "notable", and I enjoyed the comics too. ~Father's Wish 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, but see never Roku Airbend ether. Ruko airbends on avatarescape.com with is also the same site we can find Kuruk airbending and FYI, it's not a made-up-on-the-spot thing, it's real facts. I find lots of stuff her the were just based on that site, and FYI, I've been an Avatar fan since Feb 2005.

Whoa hoa hoa, Feb of 05, lets just role out the red carpet. Anyway, we don't know how canon the site is. It even said Aang won't remember any of what happened. H2P (Yell at me for what I've done) 23:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

No, it says that it will be like he only had a bad dream and it is a canon. Not only have I found many things here that come fron that site, but on TV, they were advertizing it on Nickalodean, repeatively! This get thought that site, you eed code words. The code words were only relieved on Nickalodean. It is a clear sign that it is true what is on that site/

I agree with listing Kuruk as a notable Airbender, he did bend in A:EftWS, if Roku, who was never seen on-screen Airbending is a notable Airbender for being the Avatar, so must Kuruk. 189.4.230.173 22:50, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Roku is notable because he's had an entire minute of screentime. Same can't be said of Kuruk. Again, this section isn't ""Every Airbender Ever".--Fyre2387 (talkcontribs) 03:10, 26 March 2007 (UTC)