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[edit] Overhauling article

I'm going reformat this article, "Agung", adding more information, more references and pictures within the next few days. Please bear with the initial mess as this occurs. PhilipDM 22:02, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Major Overhauling Completed PhilipDM 19:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
You may want to revisit your use of citations a bit. In some places it seems a little excessive, such as the 10 citations supporting calling the agung "large". I would think that only one reliable citation is necessary for most statements. --Ars Scriptor (formerly Aguerriero) 18:40, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree. There are too many sources. it's too excessive. mirageinred 18:42, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Also agree. The number of sources may be ok but put don't chop up the sentences so much. Reference only the essential statements not every second or third word. 22:32, 25 November 2006 (UTC)~
Definitely. At worst,people can judge the description by looking at the images. Circeus 02:14, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Second Overhaul for citations

Citing recommendations from above, I'll start reorganizing the citations, streaming lining the problem paragraphs... particularly the Description and Technique areas. PhilipDM 08:57, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Citation overhaul completed. Citations for choppy sentences or paragraphs were placed at either the end of the sentence or lumped together at the end of the paragraph. Other sentences that were not choppy were left alone. PhilipDM 09:53, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] passed nomination

Agung has all the attributes of a good article. Congratulations!--Pinay06 22:31, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Excessive citations

Is it just me, or are some facts on this article overly cited? I think fifteen references at the end of a sentence is a little much. Are the citations meant to source individual facts within the paragraph? If that's what they're supposed to be for, then I would think it would be more logical for the cites to appear next to the specific fact it was intended to reference. Any thoughts? Deyyaz [ Talk | Contribs ] 01:23, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

If you check the citations before the citation overhaul, you will see that each of the facts were verified with cites. Unfournately people said it was too choppy or not to put citations after each word/sentence. So to be fair, I placed them after each appropriate paragraph. I liked the previous one better since it cited every fact throughtly but unfortunately, I don't want to revert back to the previous setup just to get feedback to remove it again... which would really be a headache for me.(see above). PhilipDM 11:48, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I can see what people would mean, saying that the inclusion of fifteen different references in such a small paragraph looks a little gawky. However, I also understand your desire to cite the facts thoroughly. Perhaps a compromise is in order. One does not have to cite every instant of a particular fact that occurs within their various sources. Tying a fact to one or two reliable sources is sufficient. Try and see if you can trim down some of more unnecessary sources. I would think that most of the facts cited should be present in entirety in at least two or three of the sources. This way all of the facts are cited and there aren't excessive lines of reference tags on the page. Perhaps I'm mistaken....whether this is a possibility or not please let me know. Deyyaz [ Talk | Contribs ] 20:14, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
I'll work on this when I get the chance. Right now I'm attempting to overhaul another article (kulintang) so when I'm thru with that I'll fix the citations properly again. PhilipDM 21:25, 18 December 2006 (UTC)