Talk:Afro Samurai

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Needs a character section, with some info on Afro, Ninja Ninja, Justice, The Numbered Monks of that mystery buddhist sect. --Bushido Brown 07:04, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] Episode Summaries

I'm going to reformat and minimize the episode summary section to be more consistent with other shows. Right now it goes a little too far into detail for a summary. Leebo86 14:56, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Also, Thesis4Eva, if you would like to do detailed summaries for the characters, or at least start them, that would be great. That's usually where the more in-depth info goes. Just be sure to move the end spoilers tag below the characters section if you put spoilers in the character descriptions. Leebo86 15:28, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources.

This article does not expand on sources or cite much of any of them. Also, I thought Fan Links were not official or reputable sources? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.112.213.22 (talk) 01:22, 9 January 2007 (UTC).

I don't see any fan sites listed as sources. There are some under External Links (which they probably shouldn't be, I'll review the policy), but the sources are listed under References, and all 6 sources are cited in the article. The lead contains most of them. Please clarify what you mean, and sign your edit with 4 tildes. Leebo86 01:30, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Franchise

The real question for this page is what incarnation of Afro Samurai it is supposed to be dealing with. The TV show? The rumored movie? The original manga? (which is called a series in the article, but was it ever even a full series?) AS is unique in the way it crossed mediums before it was ever established in one. Technically the article should be split up but there's so little info on each thing. Any ideas? Laxcat 03:07, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

It's generally accepted to keep related media (television, manga, movies) together on a main page, and if the individual media deserve their own articles, it can be taken from there. Leebo86 03:06, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Oh... my apologies on reverting the removal of your own text. I saw an anonymous IP remove it, and just reverted until a reason was given. Leebo86 03:09, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Race

The question for me is why was it necessary for an African to be transplanted into Japanese culture, or, conversely, why was it needful that medieval Japanese culture be used as the backdrop for the exploits of an African character? Surely it would be possible to portray the correct races in their own proper cultures in an interesting way. Why is it considered "more special" to watch an African male out-do Japanese males in fighting methods which are native to Japanese culture? Are there political reasons for why this is considered to be a "good" thing? [[User:Jenab][[User_Talk:Jenab] 03:09, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I think you're looking a bit deeper into it than necessary. I think the main motivation is the "cool factor" of having a hip-hop backdrop. The manga was written by a Japanese artist, so I don't think it's a political device for touting Africans' superiority over Japanese. Samurai Champloo is another example of a "hip hop anime". It combined hip hop and ancient Japan, in the same way that the creators had previously combined jazz and space travel for Cowboy Bebop. Hip hop is big in the United States, and Afro Samurai was clearly made with the intention of it being a hit here. Add Samuel L. Jackson's involvment and it seems to be mostly a marketing technique. Leebo86 17:58, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes its definitely the "cool factor" --Oblivious

[edit] Characters section

The characters section should probably be expanded, but I see that someone moved Ninja Ninja up to Afro (so as to cover both characters voiced by Samuel L. Jackson on a single line). This would work fine if it was a "Cast" section, with characters listed after the voice actors, but the section is eventually going to be a focus on the characters themselves. What does everyone else think? Leebo86 07:41, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

That is until its revealed that Ninja Ninja is simply a split personality of Afro-samurai resulting from his traumatic childhood. :D Just a theory of course, but then they would need to be on a single line eh? Livingston 09:47, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I edited the section on Sasuke earlier to correct a statement that his glasses were "homemade", to indicate that they are period glasses from feudal Japan / late dynastic China (many period HK movies feature them). I just thought a source might be appropriate. Found some pics of an actual 18th century pair of Chinese glasses in a similar design: http://www.eyeantiques.com/Spectacles/Chinese_old_style.htm

[edit] Character changes

Anyone remember the afro samurai site a while ago featuring a guy with a teddy bear mask over his head? He was wearing one of the headbands but I forget which. I think his name started with a k but I forget. He's no where to be found on the site anymore so I can only imagine it's a plot change. I think it should be added but I have no info.

[edit] External Links

A user, 3ahmed, wishes to keep a link to the RZA's MySpace page in the External Links. I feel this is inappropriate and removed two insertions of it. I've alerted him to my feelings on it at his talk page, but any other editors' thoughts are appreciated. The guidelines for external links are at Wikipedia:External links. Leebo86 20:31, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tense

This show has already aired, this article needs to stop being in future tense, and perhaps some of the speculative information could be changed to better represent the show now that it's contents are avaliable to the public as well. Cheesechimp 09:55, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I went through and removed all of the future tense that I saw. I know I probably missed some though. Thefro552 14:38, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ninja Ninja

The Ninja Ninja section is filled with speculation on his being an imaginery character. This whole section probably needs to be rewritten to remove this. Thefro552 14:39, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

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