Talk:Afro-Latin American

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[edit] Archived discussions

All discussions which had their last dated entry prior to December 2006 have been moved to |/Archive 1. If there is anything there than needs to be resurrected, please start a new section on this page with an appropriate title.

By the way, I realize that all the items on this page --at this moment-- are signed by me. Please do not conclude that I considermyself "owner" of this article or the supreme authority. It just seems that for the recent past no one else is taking an interest in this discussion page. For my part, I'd welcome other users to join in --JAXHERE | Talk 15:40, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help with Population estimates

The table in the IDB population estimates section shows "50%" prior to the main table, which is somehow added by the system. If anyone knows how to remove this, your help in doing so would be much appreciated. --JAXHERE | Talk 14:04, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. The problem was the Colombia had an extra column, and the "+" directly after the "|" in the code was causing it to do weird things. I put a space between the + and the | and removed the extra column. --sony-youth 14:50, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks a lot.--JAXHERE | Talk 15:55, 9 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] IDB Population Estimates Section

Some users have been changing information in this section which is an extract from an official report. Nothing in this section should be changed unless there has been an error discovered in the material quoted from the report.

If the report is in error and there is sourced material to correct it, I'd suggest adding a footnote at the end of the section, with the corrected information and the reference to the source of the new information.--JAXHERE | Talk 15:40, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of famous

Is is possible to create a list of famous black Latinos?24.185.49.151 20:59, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

What, you mean like Pele? I think that sounds a great idea --Episodiod 21:02, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Some of the individual countries list a few. These could be expanded, a separate section could be dedicated to FBL's if there were sufficient, and I suppose, if the list proved extensive enough even a separate page would be justified. JAXHERE | Talk 21:09, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I do not know how many Latinos are in the United States, but I heard that 1.7 million of Latinos in the United States self-identify as black. Is this true? And how many Hispanic people are there in the USA?24.185.49.151 15:07, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nicaragua

Mainly found on the mostly undeveloped Caribbean coast.
I changed it too:
Mainly found on the country's Autonomous regions of RAAN and RAAS.
Someone Undid my revision with the comment "vandal". I just wanted to know if/why my post wasnt apropriate.
LaNicoya 20:57, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Well precisely, after all what do the Red & Anarchist Action Network or the Renin-angiotensin system have to do with Nicaragua. Well callaed vandalism, SqueakBox 21:15, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, i apologize, i hadn't noticed that. I was referring to Región Autónoma del Atlántico Norte and Región Autónoma del Atlántico Sur which would i thought were RAAN and RAAS.
LaNicoya 21:48, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Well do the edit again than. I am sure if you link correctly it will be fine, SqueakBox 21:49, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I owe an apology to LaNicoya for labeling the revert to "vandal", I had my doubts as to whether it was intentional, but when I followed the links that were placed they obviously had nothing to do with Nicaragua.JAXHERE | Talk 13:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)



IDB population estimates

  • This table is terrible! Who elaborate the table is a racist and afrocentrist! Overestimate the black population in America. View:
  • Peru -> "Predominantly Indigenous, with much greater African than white contributions to the genetic pool. Britannica Yearbook puts an upper estimate of 10 percent on Blacks." (Note the racist bold text.)
  • Mexico -> "The colonial population was always predominantly Indigenous with an important zambo/African strain. Black genetic contributions are probably equal to or greater than white." (In Mexico blacks does't exist or are very small minority. White pop. are 10-15%. Afro-mexican are 1% or less! Racist and no neutral point of view!)

and others cases of racism in table!

  • This table is a great joke!

Anyone wikipedian, please, delete the table.

[edit] IDB table is wrong

The source can be reputable, but that doesn't make it infallible. Its product can still be wrong. Many of the claims are very much at variance with the preponderance of data. Overblown claims about the black genetic contribution and a constant downplaying of the white contribution does give the document a tone consistent with an Afro-centric agenda. SamEV 23:37, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Sam, I agree with your first thought, however, one of the rules of Wikipedia is that all information must be Verifiable and from a reputable source.
If you have some reputable source which disputes or is different from the IDB information it would be excellent to provide this information together with a citation to its source and then let readers decide for themselves which is correct.
Unfortunately Wikipedias rules do not allow us to provide "True Facts" unless they have been published in a recognized publication or uttered by someone who is a "recognized" expert or authority on the subject. --JAXHERE | Talk 18:07, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Hello Jax. I'm sorry I didn't see your reply until tonight. Thank you. You're quite correct about Wikipedia's rules. I'll do as you advice and will be adding alternate information this week (unless I change my mind, that is). I'll also try to finish reading the IDB report so that I can comment on it in a bit more detail. Take it easy. SamEV 08:54, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] merge of Afro Costa Rican

If there were any valuable information in that article I'd be for a merge, however, Afro Latin American already suffers from too much unsourced material and would only be adding to this problem with a merge. --JAXHERE | Talk 16:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Population estimate table

I dont understand it, by total population does it refer to the total population of blacks in the specific country?

On Costa Rica is says "Predominantly mestizo with more important white elements" Predominantly meztizo? How? 80% of the costa rican population are white.

On Nicaragua "Significantly mestizo and some zambo with important white contributions in many." How? The black population in Nicaragua is 9%, compared to the white population which is 17%. LaNicoya 09:15, 6 April 2007 (UTC)