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[edit] Templates

I have a question regarding the use of templates. I tried to find mention of them as being required. You recently commented that in aircraft articles, templates were "required" and I cannot find that stipulation. As far as I can tell, templates are available and can be accomodated but are not mandated as the way to cite references. There are cataloguing conventions already in place in the literary world that cover all contingencies and the use of the Wikipedia templates has a form of limitations, since they invariably prescribe the APA Style which is not the "standard" for literary works. Most books utilize the MLA (Modern Language Association) guide which is more complete and adaptable, compared to the APA guide. Bzuk 6:12 1 February 2007 (UTC).

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Thanks for the prompt reply to my query. One of the problems I have with the Wikipedia entries is the constant reliance on templates where they are not required. IMHO, the Wikipedia template is a template for those who cannot "scratch" catalog on their own and is based on the (American Psychological Association) APA use for psychology, education, nursing and other social sciences. The APA style is typically used in colleges and universities as a "short" guide to references for research students. One thing that is introduced is that the date of publication is placed within the author note and not with the publication which is a bit awkward.

The style that I employ is based on the MLA (Modern Language Association) use for literature, arts and humanities which is the "standard" reference and citaiton guide for the majority of written work. Almost all publishing houses use this style with a variation called the "Chicago style."

FYI My other problem is that I have a background stemming from 35+ years as a librarian and due my ancient teachings, I had gone through rigorous training for cataloguing and reference works. As you can visualize, I am an old fossil but I have in my last few years, been able to adopt newer technology. My last assignment in a high school library was eye-opening as my library technician and I simply downloaded MARC (Machine-Accesible Record Control) information from library collections where the questionable book was already cataloged. What a joy, simply copy someone else's cataloguing and paste it into our data base. To me that is like the "template" system but it isn't always the best way. I did have to resort at times to doing my own cataloguing to correct errors. (:> Bzuk 24:47 1 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Help requested

Since you said "People (nearly always anons) changing specifications w/out citing a source is rapidly becoming a pet peeve of mine..." in a discussion page, maybe you could help me with Sukhoi Su-47 and Sukhoi Su-37? User:Sukhoi47Berkut (who's obviously a fanboy with that username... probably another Ace Combat nut) has been adding uncited specs, yet tells us "Leave this alone unless you have a cite." Heh, he even added "Agility: Extreme" to the Su-47's specs, which, of course, I deleted... I'd warn him myself, but I'm unsure of what template to use, and people tend to not care whenever I warn them, anyway. ZakuTalk 00:11, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the help, but he seems pretty determined to add this crap in... do you think it's time to warn him? Anyway, I cited the specifications, so hopefully that'll keep him shut up. ZakuTalk 23:12, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Avro Arrow

Hi Mr. Aerobird, Thanks for your help on all the aircraft projects to which I have submitted my pittance of knowledge. BTW, I wonder if you could take a look at the Avro CF-105 Arrow discussion page. It seems to have degraded into a discussion over the relative merits of the decision to cancel the Arrow. However, there is an editor that has been compelled to take the discussion into a bizarre turn. He actually backs up his own opinion with comments from an unknown IP address that can be traced back to... him? I don't need anyone to intercede except for maybe an administrator but take a look and give me your opinion. Bzuk 04:39 4 March 2007 (UTC).

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