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[edit] User:Copperchair

Copperchair (talk • contribs) is under Arbitration Committee sanction and is currently under a 1 year ban from editing. The final decision in their case is here: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Copperchair

As the ban log shows Copperchair has not followed their arbitration ruling and was given a 1 year ban. Since the 1 year ban they have continuously created sockpuppets and continued their edit warring as shown by multiple RFCUs . Their latest sockpuppet is Esteban "Lex" Saborío (talk • contribs) who is currently unblocked and continuing Copperchair's removal of War on Terrorism from the Iraq War.

Summation
  1. A block of their latest sockpuppet.
  2. Change of Copperchair's block from a 1 year block to indefinite.

Reported by: --Bobblehead 05:57, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Blocked Esteban "Lex" Saborío (talk • contribs), plus Kronsteen (talk • contribs), another Copperchair sock. Filled out an RFCU for LaManoTom (talk • contribs), who I suspect is also a Copperchair sock. I'd really like it if something more permanent could be done, but I'm happy to block his socks whenever they show themselves. TomTheHand 19:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Response Socks blocked and ban reset by TomTheHand. Thatcher131 00:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ScienceApologist Off-wiki personal attacks

Further to our ArbCom outcome and remedies and Off-wiki personal attacks, I note the following:

  • I run the Web site plasma-universe.com. *My server logs note various visits by IP address 71.57.90.96 and 216.125.49.252 (Wikipedia contributors) whose timing coincide with the actions from two users named "Asshole" (on 23 Feb | Log (359K) ) and "Anon" (on 25 Feb | Log (285K)). Yesterday (11 Mar) I also received over 400 emails (example available on request) sourced from IP address 71.57.90.96, and another contributor to the plasma-universe.com web site received numerous emails,[1]
  • Both IP addresses 71.57.90.96 and 216.125.49.252 resolve to ILLINOIS, and an email I received from someone at "Harold Washington College" in Illinois, also shows the IP address of 216.125.49.252.
  • WP:NPA on "Off-wiki personal attacks notes that "Wikipedia acknowledges that it cannot regulate behavior in media not under the control of the Wikimedia Foundation, but personal attacks elsewhere may create doubt as to whether an editor's on-wiki actions are being conducted in good faith."
  • The evidence suggests that User ScienceApologist will be shown to also operate 71.57.90.96 and 216.125.49.252, and he is responsible for the vandalism and spamming of users on plasma-universe.com. Will an Admin check the IP addresses and username? --Iantresman 11:51, 12 March 2007 (UTC)


I was informed about this notice from a third party who monitors this board. The first time I heard about Ian's website was when Ian made mention of it at Talk:Plasma cosmology, but I thought that he was simply spamming for his website. Now it seems he is accusing me of unbecoming behavior and trying to sully my reputation at Wikipedia. I have some ideas who might be orchestrating this (I believe it is a student of mine), but I'm pretty upset that Ian would accuse me of this behavior without ever having asked me for assistance. I do use the two IPs in question to log into Wikipedia, but the accusations he is leveling against the ScienceApologist account are not connected with the person who logs into Wikipedia as such. --ScienceApologist 12:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
  • I can also corroborate, as I am the other party who received several messages for "password change request notification." Appx 25-30 on plasma-universe.com and one from wikipedia.com. The one originating from wikipedia.com has been forwarded to wikipedia. Though at that time I didn't have any information on who may have had access to anonymous IP 71.57.90.96 (noted as the originator of the illegitimate password change requests). I assume these were either designed to disrupt use of the system (despite measure in place that countered disruption by outside parties, so usability was not ACTUALLY compromised, thankfully), or as an [unsuccessful] attempt to hack my password on that forum or on wikipedia. I assume it was more of a "nuisance" than necessarily a hack attempt. I can't say with certainty who originated the illegitimate password change requests, nor will I speculate. If ScienceApologist states the IP address is his (I'll accept his statement), but has been in some manner compromised, I hope that further steps to limit such action in the future will be taken. If the machine is a shared machine, say at a university or other educational institution (or the IP is used by a proxy server shared between many users), etc. it may be difficult to track down an actual perpetrator. So, I won't jump to conclusions as to intent, etc. I'll just hope it doesn't happen again. ;o] Anyway, nice chatting with all y'all again. Not quite sure how I got roped into the whole thing, aside from I'd left comments on Ian's talk page on plasma-universe.com and signed it, and perhaps someone followed that link and spammed it too, though not to the same extent as they spammed Ian. Like I said, I can corroborate THAT it happend, but not much more than the IP address noted in the e-mails from here and thereabouts, and the number received. Hope everyone has a good day, aside from this little quibble. I bear no ill will, so long as I don't get roped in any further. =o] Mgmirkin 03:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
  • I may also note that the anonymous user ID 71.57.90.96 and Ian have been having discussions on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Plasma_cosmology in recent days, and possibly contentions elsewhere. As I recall from prior WP experiece, SA & Ian can occasionally be mutually antagonistic over contentious issues. I won't comment on rightness or wrongness of either party, or speculate on whether these contentious issues may have spilled over into vandalism of Ian's site by IP 71.57.90.96 (whether SA or someone else) and current spam issues today. Again, don't really want to get involved much beyond that. Just noting for contextual purposes that both, as I recall (I don't frequent WP much anymore, so I was surprised when I got roped into the spamming bit), have had prior conversations, some of which possibly leading up to today's issue (or not). I hope all this gets resolved amicably, of course. Best of luck all. Mgmirkin 03:25, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Admin comment. WP:NPA#Off-wiki_personal_attacks clearly states that wikipedia "cannot regulate behavior in [outside] media" and "an editor may not be directly penalized for off-wiki attacks". So we can hardly punish these offences, especially since User:ScienceApologist denies involvement. The policy WP:NPA#Off-wiki_personal_attacks does allow off-wiki behaviour to be "taken as aggravating factors when any on-wiki policy violations are being considered", but that is something for WP:RFAR, not WP:AE. I'd be interested to hear what other admins have to say. Bucketsofg 19:52, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
  • plasma-universe.com received another attack last night, this time through a proxy server. Unfortunately the uploading of many megabytes of images, and the double redirects put into place, not only crashed the site, but knocked out a number of my client's Web sites too. As Admins may appreciate, this directly affects my business (I am a Web publisher), which I consider malicious.
  • I can corroborate this too. I was sent an additional appx 40 messages this morning around 6:00 am. I would still prefer to be kept out of this. However, the perpetrator appears to have their own agenda, and may not even know about this discussion, since it may not be ScienceApologist, but another party who has co-opted IP addresses (or these may be proxy addresses used by a proxy server service, and may be used intermittently by different users). Other IP addresses used included: 75.126.48.148, 85.195.119.22, 85.195.123.22, 85.195.123.25, 85.195.123.26, 85.195.123.29 (I note that their talk pages generally indicate that they may be "shared"/proxy/zombie IP's). I don't know whether these were by the same user (sock puppets), or by copycats (I believe I'll remove a comment from Plasma Cosmology ^talk with details of the initial incident in order to curtail copycat issues). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mgmirkin (talk • contribs) 17:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC).
  • I acknowledge that Wikipedia has no jurisdiction over any individuals that may or may not be involved. I will be going over the incidents and my server logs more thoroughly for further clues. --Iantresman 12:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Admin response. Your best recourse may be to contact the ISP of the individuals involved and/or your national law enforcement (since such attacks are illegal in most places). One way or the other, you should probably not bring such matters to this page (arbitration enforcement) since we only deal with enforcing existing arbitration rulings. Again, I'm interested in hearing comments from other arbitrators. Bucketsofg 13:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Indeed, I wouldn't involve ISPs and law enforcement here. Unfortunately the latter is difficult as I am based on the UK, and the culprit is using computers in Illinois (and proxies elsewhere). --Iantresman 14:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ScienceApologist Off-wiki personal attacks: Concluding evidence

Here is what I think is concluding evidence on the three cases of off-site vandalism and personal attacks of my Web site, plasma-universe.com.

  • 216.125.49.252 is an IP address of "Harold Washington College". ScienceApologist is quite correct that as a shared IP address, one of his students could use it.
  • 71.57.90.96 appears to be residential (home) IP address. Its times of use suggest out-of-college hours; My server log files (available on request) include the modified IP-address entry "c-71-57-90-96.hsd1.il.comcast.net". I contacted the customer service department of Comcast.net who told me that "it looks like it belongs to a subscriber .. probably a home"[3]. This would make it very difficult to "compromise" this IP address as recorded on Wikipedia.
  • A student may plausibly have been responsible for the attacks using the shared IP address, 216.125.49.252, the likelihood that they would also have access to the home IP address 71.57.90.96 is slim. The student would require direct access to the home computer, or the installation of trojan software. We also have to assume that the student would have the motive, the will, the expertise and a streak of malicious ill-will again both myself and ScienceApologist. Or the student has authorised access to the home computer, but the owner does not notice.
  • ScienceApologist says he heard about plasma-universe.com after my mention of it on Talk:Plasma cosmology,[4] on 23 Feb 2007 at 20:08 UTC (14:08 CDT). My server log files shows a visit from the home IP 71.57.90.96 at 8:05 UTC (2:05 CDT), 12 hours earlier. It results from a Google search for: "redshift wikipedia" an article which ScienceApologist has been heavily involved.
  • While some of the vandalism was carried out through anonymous proxies such as Anonymouse.org and hidemyass.com, the most recent attack on 13 Mar at 03:08 UTC (10:08pm CDT+1 12 Mar) was preceded one minute earlier by a server log entry from "c-71-57-90-96.hsd1.il.comcast.net", the home IP address.
  • Where the off-site Web site vandals left comments, it is interesting to compare some of them with previous comments by ScienceApologist
ScienceApologist "Asshole" / "Anon"
"Ian Tresman is a catastrophist who supports Velikovskian pseudoscience"[5] You should read Velikovsky.[6]
"Heliospheric current sheet .. it is the largest structure of the helioshpere, not of the entire Solar System."[7] "Heliospheric current sheet .. is the biggest structure in the solar system."[8]
"the 'electric universe' .. publish exclusively on the internet or vanity presses"[9] Redirect Vanity Publication[10]

"IEEE special editions on plasma cosmology are part of the obscure plasma cosmology circle. The usual suspects are only able to publish in an engineering journal"[11]

"The IEEE Nuclear and Plasma Sciences Society .. the only professional outfit willing to publish articles on the plasma universe."[12]
"Ian Tresman' .. Basic ignorance in the fields of astrophysics, physics, mathematics, and the natural sciences in general"[13] "Ian Tresman maintains pseudoskepticism towards the Big Bang, despite having never taken an actual class on the subject."[14]
  • Conclusion. Scienceapologist's IP address 71.57.90.96 appears to be a residential IP address associated with a home PC. The same IP address was also responsible for attacks on my server that has damaged my business. One attack appears to have come from the shared college IP address.--Iantresman 22:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
As I mentioned earlier, I have a student who works on research projects with me and I encouraged him to look into these controversies at Wikipedia (and yes, he shares my home internet connection with me through a proxy network as he cannot afford his own ISP but needed acceses to the internet to conduct research). He has personally admitted to me that he did vandalize Ian's site and has made a few posts under both my IPs at Wikipedia. I have taken measures to prevent this sort of action in the future, but as far as I'm concerned this is a matter best left to private conversation. --ScienceApologist 00:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Admin note There's not much ScienceApologist can do about editing from the college, but certainly there shouldn't be any further incidents coming from his residential IP address. It would be best for Ian and SA to work this out in private; there is no precedent for taking on-wiki action here. Any negative behavior on wikipedia coming from SA's residential address after this has been brought to his attention would be another matter. Thatcher131 00:25, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Grandmaster and User:AdilBaguirov

These users are working together to avoid 1rr and game the system on the Mammed Amin Rasulzade article.

Here is the history of the article: [15]

Here is the history of the article's talk page: [16]

Notice how Grandmaster has not been involved in the article since the 21st of February and did not participate in any of the recent discussions. Here is Adil Baguirov's revert, in which he is adding information which has nothing to do with Rasulzade, let alone his exile: [17] Then, after I revert, with good reason, since the information is completely irrelevant and I have said this many times, Grandmaster comes out of nowhere and reverts back to Adil, saying that "you cant decide on your own whats relevant and whats not": [18] None of what Adil inserted into the article is relevant about Rasulzade or his exile. I keep telling Adil that he should put his information in the relevant article (such as the ADR article) but he wont listen. If you read the full quotes from the sources that Adil is using to put that information in the article, you will see that known of them are referring to Rasulzade. Adil also clearly distorts the Swietochowski quote, which would not be the first time he has distort quotes and information. My conclusion is that either Grandmaster was reverting blindly, without even looking at what he was reverting, or he reverted due to a request by Adil, or maybe because he is stalking me. None of the information Adil is trying to add is about Rasulzade, let alone his exile.

Also note that while Grandmaster is telling me not to revert and wait until there is a consensus, yet he again shows his double standard by continuously reverting to his own version: [19]Azerbaijani 21:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

user Azerbaijani, all my edits you complain about are a response to your insertions of taken out of context quotes (such as Atabaki's poorly cited and ripped out of context quote). Meanwhile, when you attempt to attack Prof. Swietochowski (a preemenent authority on Azerbaijani history in the West), at least try better, and not some weird and baseless "Adil also clearly (?!) distorts (?! huh?) the Swietochowski quote" (really? how?). It's you who try to portray Mammed Amin Rasulzade as some Pan-Turkist maniac, deny his own voice to be heard (MP3 file), remove Academician Iqrar Aliyev's quote (another top authority on Azerbaijani history, and himself of Iranic extraction), try to make Rasulzade appear appologetic for the name "Azerbaijan" and make him appear pro-Iranian (nice -- you are going from Pan-Turkist to Pan-Iranian) and argue about a host of other things. Meanwhile, both myself and GM have been active on Azerbaijan-related pages before you, and specifically, have been active on Rasulzade page before ArbCom, so all your other accusations are just as groundless. All my edits are well explained on the Talk page, and quite frankly, I've presented far more versatile and full information on Rasulzade, as opposed to your carefully selected, take out of context snippets. --AdilBaguirov 07:06, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Admin note Unfortunately the injunction limits each editor, not each side of the dispute (as useful as such a ruling might have been). Reverting in general is poor behavior but I don't see grounds for a block at this time. If you are currently outnumbered you will have to try the dispute resolution process such as a request for comment on the disputed edits or mediation. Sorry. Thatcher131 00:29, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Personal Attack

AdilBaguirov has diverted a whole section on a talk page to personally attacking me: [20][21]

For those of you who know the history, Elsanaturk, Atabek, and Adil have continuously thrown personal attacks against me, and they have been warned by admins several times not to do it again.

He doesnt even know what hes talking about, just his usual OR. For example, not only is he attacking me, but all of his information is wrong. He is not distinguishing the Iranic culture that is till within the Republic of Azerbaijan, the Russian culture that is still within the Republic of Azerbaijan, and the Turkic culture which is still in the Republic of Azerbaijan.Azerbaijani 00:10, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I'll copy this to WP:ANI since it seems to have no relevance to any arbitration ruling. --Tony Sidaway 18:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Personal attacks are not part of the injunction in the open arbitration case. "You're not a real Azerbaijani or else you would understand" is rather mild, but he should be asked to avoid such comments in the future. Thatcher131 16:51, 18 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Reverting page, removing evidence without Talk page comment

User:Artaxiad, who is one of the parties in ArbCom case, has reverted the page removing major part of relevant referenced material [22] and without leaving any explanation at Talk:Varoujan_Garabedian. I would like to remind that another user with the same type of violation [23] was blocked for 5 days. Thanks. Atabek 09:57, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

For faster repsonse post to the 3RR noticeboard. I can look into this later. Thatcher131 16:52, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
By the way this was not a revert, and I have explained my reasons on the talk page, thanks. Artaxiad 17:00, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Response It was not a revert, it was an edit. Not all edits are reversions. Atabek did revert [24] Artaxiad's removal of the information. The example of Adil you cited is also a reversion, [25] Adil reverted to his own version, erasing 11 intermediate edits that had stood for 5 days. However in the case of Varoujan_Garabedian there was no previous version lacking this information and the removal of information is often part of the normal editing process. As an editor I don't agree with Artaxiad's logic in removing the statement; if John Smith is a member of Greenpeace, and Greenpeace is an environmental organization, then it strains logic to say that the sentence "John Smith, who is a member of Greenpeace, an environmental organization, participated in a Global Warming demonstration" is invalid because there is no source that says both thingsin the same source. However the arbitration case is about behavior, and this disagreement certainly could escalate to a reversion situation involving penalties if you don't have a meaningful discussion on the talk page. Thatcher131 02:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Harassment and Personal Attacks by User:Fadix

I just wanted to check for how long I will have to tolerate the personal attacks and harassment by User:Fadix on ArbCom Workshop page. His recent proposal and comments were really a last straw [26] in assuming any good faith about this contributor. He is simply unable to move beyond personalities, keeps attacking them, stalking and finally simply lying about my affiliation as "official representative of the position of Azerbaijan republic in the United States". I hope arbitrators can address this ad hominem some time, I will be happy to furnish evidence to dismiss such false claim. User:Dacy69 already provided evidence dismissing the claim [27] . But I just wonder how long this will go on? This kind of activity is clearly contrary to principles and regulations of Wikipedia. Thanks. Atabek 18:17, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

A proposition is not a personal attack, a proposition which has been already supported. There is a conflict of interest and those are really the official spokesmen, if of course we exclude Azeri ambassadors. Fad (ix) 19:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] User:Richardmalter

Richardmalter (talk • contribs) is banned from editing the article BDORT per Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Yoshiaki Omura. He has been soliciting changes to the article at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Maths, science, and technology#Clinical and medical topics, which seems questionable, particularly considering he is banned from article talk pages as well. Diffs [28] [29] [30] [31] etc. --Minderbinder 13:03, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Response A limited amount of advocacy is probably acceptable, as long as he makes his point and then stops. The article ban is for disruptive and aggressive editing and if he is nice and polite and calm on the RFC page then that's probably ok. If he harangues editors who do not agree with him he can be banned from the page (enforceable by block if he continues after notification). However other editors (hello, Crum?) who do not agree with his suggestions would be advised to politely decline and then stop talking and not rise to the bait or continue to engage him. Thatcher131 01:16, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
I blocked Richardmalter today for one month for editing BDORT and its talk page with a sockpuppet or meatpuppet. Details here. SlimVirgin (talk) 01:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Richardmalter has filed an RFC [32] for BDORT linking to an extensive list of edit requests on his user talk page [33]. Is this appropriate for someone banned from the talk page of an article? Doesn't seem much like a request for comment as much as a way to try and work around the ban. An admin should probably have a look. --Minderbinder 15:42, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Left a note on Talk:BDORT. Malter is really pushing the boundaries of improper editing here, as well as my patience. Thatcher131 15:57, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:MarshallBagramyan

User:MarshallBagramyan is under ArbCom on Armenia-Azerbaijan with its 1RR injunction and requirement to always leave an explanation for a revert on the appropriate Talk pages. Today, user:MarshallBagramyan did 3 reverts (and thus re-inserted POV external links that were agreed to be removed with admin FrancisTyers[34]) so far with no explanations on the Talk pages. Specifically, on the pages:

reported by: adil 22:16, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I was never a party to the ArbCom and am not bound by its limitations; adding my name as part of the dispute after its over makes little sense. I'm not going to be baited by you with your disruptive and provocative comments and edits. I'll allow the admins. formulate their own opinion but this borders on harassment. How many times do you have to be blocked in ordered to understand any of the rules on Wikipedia?--MarshallBagramyan 23:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
You are very much part of ArbCom. According to ArbCom admin Fred Bauder 13:48, 15 March 2007 (UTC), "The current listing is incomplete. Anyone aggressively editing these articles should assume they are a party. Add their names and give them notice. No motion is necessary". You have been editing the same pages as other members of ArbCom and are very much part of disputes involcing Karabakh issue, ancient history, etc. That you name for some reason was not in the list until I added it (back?) is an unfortunate shortcoming, but you were well aware of the ArbCom, you were very well informed about the March 15 administrators decision, yet you continued to revert and otherwise engage in disruptive editing. --adil 00:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
No I was not. Enough of your delirious accusations; you delete important references on the basis of the ethnicity of the author and yet you have the gall to accuse me of disruptive editing? Every article you have touched has been locked. Everything you do is related to besmirching the name of Armenians. You have been blocked again for another violation of the injunction. Your baiting rhetoric only hurts you, you're the one who's the verge of a perm. ban, not me.--MarshallBagramyan 00:32, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, you were, you were very well aware of the ArbCom going on. Are you really going to deny this?! Meanwhile, your words on the "basis of ethnicity" - well, that's a nice name for what has become to be known as POV, and being POV, should be removed. Sorry, but external or internal links from Armenian sources, all of them unscholarly, about a controversial topic are not permitted. This case was explicitly agreed to by admin Francis Tyers[41], so yes, you are being disruptive, you do engage in revert warring. Because the number of Armenian editors is at least twice larger than Azerbaijani editors, and some of the former (as opposed to only one of the latter) use a great number of sock- and meat-puppets, not to mention IP anons (Mikara, HyeProfile, Zurbagan, Pulu-Pughi, Ararat Arev, etc), what you allege against Azerbaijani editors (e.g., "besmirching", etc) is not even physically possible, no need to make baseless allegations. --adil 00:45, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Apparently repeating everything to you only hinders your understanding more. I'm just going to let this one slide by; there`s no point in telling people it rains upwards during a storm. You have been blocked 5 times in the past month and are now grasping for straws by trying to bait me into the ArbCom dispute.--MarshallBagramyan 01:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

) Marshall, you've been named a party long before me, and in fact, on March 1, 2007, none other than you left this comment in ArbCom: [42] After this, don't claim you didn't know about ArbCom as you tried to do above. --adil 03:25, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

It was a comment - not an announcement of entry into the ArbCom. Your churlish and puerile comments, on the other hand, continue to reflect the fact that you are still unable to hold yourself to an honest debate. Is there any article that you have touched that has not been locked or ended in up in perpetual debate? The Battle of Shusha, the Battle of Kelbajar and the Sumgait Pogrom were all stable and well written articles (the second being a GA) until you touched it, at the same time the ArbCom is ending.

None of your contributions ultimately illustrate nor suggest that you have maintained an ounce of good faith in your editing.--MarshallBagramyan 07:03, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry that my edits interfere with your POV on the above articles. Truly sorry. But you cannot include Armenian websites in these articles, that's common sense and that's the consensus, which Armenian editors themselves enforce too (generally). As such, there should be no double standards. And pages lock up because of meatpuppets that come to the rescue -- meats like Vartanm, Davo88, HyeProfile, Zurbagan, Pulu-Pughi, etc., none of which are Azerbaijani as you know. --adil 16:40, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Please spare me from sarcasm with your condescending lecture; there's been enough POV edits by you to banish you from Wikipedia for several lifetimes, it's only a matter of time now anyways. --MarshallBagramyan 18:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Response In order to be subject to the revert limitation he would have had thave been listed as a participant in the case and informed on his talk page of both the case and the probation. I don't see that those things ever happened. Thatcher131 17:41, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

User MarshallBagramyan has been named as a party long before the above complaint, by user Atabek, for example. Moreover, user MarshallBagramyan himself left comments on the Armenia-Azerbaijan ArbCom page on Revision as of 14:27, March 1, 2007 [43] As such, I have added Marshall back to the ArbCom at 18:43, March 22, 2007 [44] His name was later removed, despite the clear statement on two occassions by Fred Bauder that anyone who aggressively edits Armenia-Azerbaijan (which certainly qualifies Marshall even by the above involvement in aggressive reverting of several pages) is party to the ArbCom. --adil 01:01, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

He wasn't notified on his talk page. Thatcher131 00:49, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] users Eupator and Fedayee

Both user:Eupator and user:Fedayee are part of the ArbCom [45] but despite the 1RR injunction that mandates leaving Talk page comments for all reverts and changes, have reverted and modified Ramil Safarov page without leaving edit summary and more importantly, any comments on the Talk page [46] for their March 23 and March 24 edits[47].

The appropriate diffs are:

  • Revision as of 14:08, March 23, 2007 [48] (where user Eupator reverted back to the vandalized version of the page (e.g., having some comment on the bottom of the page and misspelling the name Safarov as "Sahib"), which even user Fedayee realized and made changes to below)
  • Revision as of 14:24, March 23, 2007 [49]
  • Revision as of 17:44, March 24, 2007 [50]

Reported by: --adil 00:56, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Desperate measures. My first edit there removed vandalism and I have written in the edit summary to say that. My 2nd edit was the removal of a DEAD image, big deal? Eupator also had an edit summary about his RV. Keep trying! - Fedayee 01:19, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Edit summary is not sufficient, the injunction is clear, and was further clarified by Dmcdevit, that everyone must write in the Talk page, especially when reverting. And especially when reverting blindly, like what Eupator did with "Sahib" and that weird comment in the bottom of the article. --adil 01:29, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Result Eupator blocked 24 hours for reverting without discussion [51]. (That he reverted to a vandalized version is an irrelvant goof, he was reverting the "suppression of a source" per his summary.) He should have initiated a discussion on the talk page about why he felt the Geocities reference was acceptable. Fedayee did nothing wrong. Thatcher131 00:59, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] users MarshallBagramyan and Aivazovsky

Both user:Aivazovsky and user:MarshallBagramyan (even though the latter tries to appear to be outside of ArbCom) are part of the ArbCom [52] but despite the 1RR injunction that mandates leaving Talk page comments for all reverts and changes, have reverted and modified several pages without leaving proper edit summary and more importantly, any comments on the Talk pages. The appropriate diffs are:

  • Revert by Aivazovsky as of 17:03, March 25, 2007 [53]
  • Revert by Aivazovsky as of 17:03 (wow, he was quick!), March 25, 2007 [54]
  • Revision by MarshallBagramyan as of 17:46, March 22, 2007 [55]

Reported by: --adil 05:45, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Stale Please report future 1RR violations to the 3RR noticeboard for a faster response. Thatcher131 20:28, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Let's stop Driako's original research here and User:Drieakko

There seems to be an edit war brewing on Kven and Kvenland which is relevant to Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Kven.

The following diffs show the offending behavior
Summation
The dispute over whether the Kvens are different to the Finns appears to have sprung back up again. Both edits reverted by Drieakko.

Reported by: Sam Blacketer 14:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Response I'm not sure what you want here. The disruptive Kven editor/Art dominique is banned from the topic and if this is his sock it can be blocked for violating the ban. User:Let's stop Driako's original research here has been blocked as a user name violation. If there is a content problem with User:Drieakko and he is not the banned Kven editor then you need to go through the usual dispute resolution process. Thatcher131 15:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I was just bringing it to wider attention because it concerned an arbitration ruling. I'm not myself involved, never been to Kvenland etc. Sam Blacketer 15:19, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
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