Talk:Adam Shapiro
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this is a poorly written extremely pov article - I've tried to give it some npov additions, but frankly the man isn't that interesting (other than as a certain kind of breed of self hating jew to spend much time or effort. Incorrect 06:04, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
And a word about sourcing: to say the NYPost called AS an American Taliban, linking to the NYPost site, BUT not to the actual article so declaring him, is not sourcing at all and is completely worthless - we all know the NYPost exists and is a paper in NY, there is no need to source that for any reason whatsoever - a link to the actual article is what sourcing is all about. Incorrect 06:08, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- And how do you suggest I source it? I go into Lexis and find the dozens of NYPost articles on this guy, but they're not available on the internet, so how's giving an exact reference any better than just naming the paper? - the.crazy.russian τ ç ë 14:29, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- Wait a second, do you think my POV is pro-ISM or contra-ISM?? I don't get it. Here all the vandals wrote that I was hopelessly biased against the guy, and you went ahead and changed character assassinations to purported character assassinations? They were real, even if they were right to assassinate his character. There was nothing purported about it. - the.crazy.russian τ ç ë 14:33, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Actually on the whole I think your article is now fairly well written (other than the sourcing issue, I'm not sure what to do there, you do what many others do, but I still am not sure it makes a great deal of sense to site a general source to authenticate a point not made in that site); I think your article is on the whole pro - ISM, I put in the word "purportedly" since I don't think the sited article was a character assasination, rather, it was an accurate assessment of the man. Incorrect 03:31, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
- Wow... that's awesome. No, I personally think they should rot in hell in a serious way. But I tried to be fair and balanced ;) in writing the article. - the.crazy.russian τ ç ë 04:28, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
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- I've modified the description of the homes destryed by the IDF to those homes of terrorists since those are the homes being destroyed - not to present that modifying word would leave the impression that the IDF is going around willy nilly destroying homes in general, a charge that has not been made.Incorrect 21:27, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
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- I've tried to make it less POV as there have definetly been a lot of cases were the Israeli army have demolished homes of non-suicide bomber families, otherwise how do you explain why there have been so many demolished houses? Firstly, i wrote 'Palestinian homes' but as you had problems with this i changed it to 'some Palestinian homes' and i can't see whats wrong with that. You are now spreading misinformation. Israel does do bad things and you have to accept that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.36.79.232 (talk • contribs) .
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- This discussion definitely does not belong on this page. I am not even going to debate it with you. Take it to the intifada article. Please stop changing it here. I will continue reverting you. - the.crazy.russian τ ç ë 16:10, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
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- I dont want to get into an argument with you, what i'm saying is that not ALL houses that are demolished by Israel are the homes of suicide bombers. By putting this down it creates a false image of the situation. By saying some Palestinian homes it becomes NPOV. However as i am not a member of Wikipedia i dont think it is fair for me to change it back and will leave it to someone who doesn't want false information to spread which makes others suffering look acceptable
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It is poorly written, it doesn't even really discuss Shapiro's activities that got him publicity, and it doesn't even have his date of birth, which surely must be out there somewhere. As time permits I will work on the article. It needs it.--Wehwalt 12:59, 9 September 2006 (UTC)