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Could you please elaborate on why you think the image is in the public domain? (Please answer on the image page) Thue | talk 09:50, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Punjabi Newspapers

Can you please add the list Punjabi newspapers in List of newspapers in Pakistan. Can you please also add following category to Punjabi newspapers newspaper-stub and Category:Pakistani newspapers. You can check the format of other Pakistani dailies in List of newspapers in Pakistan. Siddiqui 15:15, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Faisalabad

Hi there, I notice in the lead section for Faisalabad you changed Urdu to Punjabi. Could you please explain why that script is Punjabi and not Urdu? Thanks in advance. Green Giant 22:38, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Because Faisalabad is acity in Punjab province and punjabi language is spoken there which has the same oldest history in same script as urdu was developed after the mughal invasion while Punjabi has been written in that perso-arabic script even in 13th century as poetry of Baba Farid is its proof. Abulfazl 05:56, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Luna Gotra tagged for speedy deletion

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[edit] Jhang map

Hello, you uploaded Jhang map . We can have this map with slight change for all districts of Pakistan and also similar maps for other provinces of Pakistan. What do you say? --Spasage 11:12, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Sure, there is no restriction. Abulfazl 05:40, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

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Thank you,

Cygnus_hansa 01:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Happy Father's Day

I noticed you were a father, so here is something other than a necktie. Happy Father's Day 2006.     ―Linux|erist 03:52, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A request

Dear sir, I noticed that you are from Jhang. I am a Punjabi too and what's more, my roots are in West Punjab. I was thinking that Punjabi Wikipedians should make articles on the various dialects of Punjabi. Have a look at the Punjabi language article. It lists the major dialects of the language as listed by the Punjabi University, Patiala.

I see that you have made an article on Jhangochi or Jhangi. On this side of the border, Malwi, Majhi and Doabi are the major dialects. Dogri was recognized in 2003 to be a separate language rather than a dialect of Punjabi.

This leaves us with the dialects spoken on the other side of the Radcliffe line. Siraiki, like Dogri has been recognized as a separate language.

Remaining dialects include Bhattiani, Powadhi, Wajeerawadi, Baar di Boli, Jatki, Bahawalpuri, Thalochri, Thali, Bherochi, Kachi, Awankari, Dhani, Ghebi, Swaen, Chacchi, and Punchi

Articles on these dialects have not been created. Since most of them are spoken in Pakistan, I would request you to try and develop articles on all these, if you have the resources available. I will try for the ones on my side. Do tell me what you think. Regards. Rajatjghai 18:09, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Insha Allah By gods help You will see more changes soon in Punjabi dialect section. I wiil try more to get the stuff. Abulfazl 08:50, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Punjabi

Hi,

I see you have the ability to write in both Shahmukh and Gurmukhi. I was wondering if you're willing to do the translations of the language boxes for Punjabi? If you can help, please do say so! Thanks. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 11:39, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi! I've replied on my talk page. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 11:09, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Allama Hassan Turabi

Thanks for your extensive and diligent work on the Allama Hassan Turabi article. It looks really good. I was able to make some modifications. I would be interested in your participation in the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict article since you seem to have an original perspective on the subject. Peace, 67.62.78.191 01:00, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] a request

Hey there, I noticed you've been writing a lot of articles on the bar region. The articles, while admittedly still stubs, are quite helpful. However, I have a tiny request — can you please use spellcheck? I am Indian, so I know that some people have trouble with English spellings if it isn't their mother tongue. I have learned that Google Toolbar is really good for spellcheck if you write articles straight into the Edit page instead of writing it in a word processor first (although sometimes it fails to recognise some fairly common words!).

Also, please make sure you pipe your links when you link to Punjab, as this is a disambiguation page, and generally speaking, links shouldn't point directly to it.

In the meantime, I hope you keep writing more new articles, you have done a really nice job! Please don't take offence at any of my remarks above... this is what Wikipedia is all about, collaboration of ideas, helping each other learn and improve! I know that you are doing your best to contribute to the encyclopedia and spread your knowledge, but just little things like using spellcheck make articles look so much more professional. :) If you find me doing anything wrong, feel free to point it out as well!

Cheers, — riana_dzasta • t • c • e • 11:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I am so glad you took my suggestion the right way! Unfortunately I don't know enough about the subject to contribute. However, there is a WikiProject for Pakistani users, where you can collaborate on articles. Perhaps you can ask some people there if they can provide more information?
Also, I noticed you signed your post manually... all you need to do is type ~~~~ and it is automatically converted to your signature, which provides a link to your userpage, and the date.
Thank you for your response, and I hope you have a great day! Regards, — riana_dzasta • t • c • e • 11:04, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] علی علی علی ...

سلام

من می خواستم ولادت حضرت امیر را تبریک بگم. سلام علیه یوم ولد و مات و یوم یخرج حیا اگر حالی دست داد من را هم دعا کن.[1] [2]

[edit] Hello

Hello abufazl, I'm Afghan Historian a Pakistani wikipedian. I'm back from my long break and looking for some articles to work on. I read your user page and your interests and linguistic abilities fascinate me. How long have you known how to converse in Farsi and Sindhi? I'm also wondering if your Indian or Pakistani. I was wondering if you could help me with a historical judgement I've been trying to make. I try to be very neutral in studying Indian and Pakistani history, withouht being biased in favor of Muslims over Hindus or vice versa. I've often been of the opinion of Pakistan being historically part of Indian civilization, with its unique differences being regional, like those of northeast India and south India. Ultimately Pakistan covers the bulk of ancient northwestern India, and as such of course will identify strongly with its unique history. But many Pakistanis like to use this to show others that Pakistan was historically different and that Indian history as a whole is the same for all of its modern regions. I counter this with the idea that Indian regions all have distinctions and it happens Bangladesh and Pakistan covered parts of regions and therefor theri histories somewhat unique. I've done more reading on the matter, and yet I'm stumped for a decision. Do you think Pakistan is historically a separate civilization or do you think it is part of historical Indian civiilizationa and it went a separate way from August 14, 1947 thereafter? I would appreciate your help. Thanks! Sorry if this paragraph got a little muddled grammatically in the middle. -Afghan Historian 01:41, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 47 in Memoni, Shina and Sindhi

Hello! I noticed you speak many Indian languages. I am collecting the name of the number 47 ("forty-seven") in as many languages as possible. So far I have translations in over 516 languages. However, I don't have Memoni, Shina and Sindhi yet. Maybe you can help me and tell me the proper translations in the proper script, if you happen to know? I'd be most thankful! You can reply on my user talk page. — N-true 15:47, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edit to WP:RFA

Hi Abulfazl, I just reverted this edit of yours at WP:RFA. If you are interested in applying for adminship, please first read the guidelines on this page. It may not have been your intention, but while adding your nom, you removed another rfa. Please be careful not to do that in the future. Please let me know if I can be of any further help -- Lost(talk) 08:47, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments on my page. There are two different points that I would request you to consider. This may get long, so please try to be patient while reading it.
  1. I understand it can get very frustrating to see people vandalise a page that we create with so much care. But if it is only blatant vandalism, not only you, many other editors will also revert it. I have also put the page under my watchlist now. However if it is a difference of opinion, then its always better to come to an agreement with the other editor. That is the nature of wikipedia. Protection of a page may only help in short term, but what will happen after a month or a year. Someone else will still come and try to add information. You and I may not be around then.
  2. To become an administrator, you need community consensus. You need to have proved that you have the capability to work with other good faith editors and resolve disputes amicably. My suggestion is dont try to go for adminship now. Wait for a few months, see how the administrators function. In any case, an administrator would generally not use his administrative powers in an article that he is involved with. Its always better to seek third party mediation in such a case.
I hope my words make sense. Please dont hesitate to ask if you think I can help any further -- Lost(talk) 10:53, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Your complaint on my talk page

Hi Abulfazl, I am not an administrator. You can seek administrator intervention on WP:ANI. I am on a wikibreak these days and am only editing intermittently else I would have helped you out. But try speaking to the other editor in a calm rational manner. That usually works. Else have a look at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. Admin intervention is usually required only against vandals and not established editors -- Lost(talk) 08:59, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Khan Ghulam Abid Baloch

I've added the "{{prod}}" template to the article Khan Ghulam Abid Baloch, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at Talk:Khan Ghulam Abid Baloch. You may remove the deletion notice, and the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. voldemortuet 15:09, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sheikhan

This page has too much detailed information. You should consider removing irrelevant info from this page. Siddiqui 17:56, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your comments in Dr. Mohsin Mighiana edit summary

Please stop. If you continue to make personal attacks on other people, you will be blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Thank you. Szhaider 18:45, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your input requested

Can you please check following page where Indian contributors have made accusation against Pakistani contributors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents Siddiqui 02:10, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Help

Can you please join in the following discussion

Aga Khani Islamic Cults

trueblood 04:56, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Abulfazl Hi,

Read your comments and appreciate . The stereotyping of people is common , Muslim Stereotype in the west , Hindu stereotype in Pakistan , Pakistanis Stereotype in India , Shia Stereotype in Iraq . All Hindus couldn’t be money lenders (even if they wanted to) , and all Punjabi Muslims of Pakistan can not be descended from Arabs or Persians ( even if they wanted to be) .

Nor are all South Asian Muslims descended from , relatives of the Prophet , or the Prophet AND all Hindus are not descended from Shri Ram . Concocted genealogical histories on Wikipedia are rampant. Makes one wonder why?

Stereotypes while on the one hand can be vicious and are deliberately perpetuated by vested interests, often they are also perpetuated by ignorance .

Your comment on the Hindus was a common stereotype we often hear ...it didn’t make me angry .....I find the stereotyping of Hindus in Pakistan as Cleaver, weak , scheming ,money lenders funny . It is steeped in Pakistani self-denial of their own history. Strangely I also find this deliberately aggressive negativity focused from Pakistanis for not only Hindus but also Shias and Ahemdias .

Notwithstanding the above your articles are wonderful! Intothefire 05:43, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] next

Intothefire 15:30, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi again Read your post on my talk page .Well its interesting to know you have read the Gita and Granth Sahib....Great to hear this because I have read the Koran an english Translation by Marmaduke Pickethall . In the begining of Alberunis book on India chapter 2 he says an interesting thing the gist of which is that "the belief of educated and uneducated people differs in every nation " ....well this seems to have been the case then for the last 1100 years .In India there is a vast difference between what Pravin Togadia an extremist represents to enlightened Hinduism as compared to what for instance is practiced by Sri Sri Ravishankar one of many Gurus in India . Simillarly the shahi imam of Delhi s Jamam masjid seems to be practicing a completely different form of Islam than we know from the enlightened words of Maulana Wahidudin Khan of DELHI .

There are basic simillarlities as well as basic differences ...but I guess the likes of Togadia and the Shahi Imam Bukhari work on the differences and Sri Sri Ravishankar and Maulana Wahidudin Khan work on the simmilarities ....!

We in India are lucky to be exposed in our daily life to a vast number of different religious denominations . My best scool teacher and a role model was a Shia . Regards Intothefire 15:08, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dulla Bhatti

Another great article , enjoyed reading it ....and then printed photocopyed and distributed to many and also informed them that this the work of someone called Abulfazl on wikipedia . Intothefire 17:25, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi Abulfazl

Had no mal intention what soever ! was a bit surprised to read your comment . Cheers Intothefire 07:55, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Datt

Have you seen this page ....this community of Punjabi Hindus are also known as Hussaini Brahmins ...ever heard of them ? Thaught this may interest you !Intothefire 16:47, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Punjab

Asalamalikum, Abulfazl! I thought you might be interested in WikiProject Punjab as you seem to be an avid contributor to Punjabi realated articles. In addition, I noticed that you are able to write Punjabi in both Gurmukhi and Shahmukhi. Your'e invited to join the project if you would like. Thanks again for your contributions to Wikipedia! Khuda hafiz, AnupamTalk 04:54, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Hello Abulfazl and congratulations on being the first Pakistani user to put your hand forward in collaboration between Indian and Pakistani Punjabis. I would like you to do a bit of Pakistanization on Portal:Punjab when you have time, as it is very Indian centrist at the moment. Also, you may have to wait for WikiProject Punjab to fully cover Pakistan-related articles. Unfortunately Szchaider (a Pakistani user who upgraded {{WP Pakistan}}) is opposed to the concept of WikiProject Punjab being a child project of WikiProject Pakistan and WikiProject India and has thus reverted my edit to {{WP Pakistan}} which include a punjab=yes parameter as well as a punjab-importance parameter. So for now, all post 1947 Pakistani Punjab related articles will have to use {{WP Punjab}} while all post 1947 Indian Punjab related articles can use {{WP India}} and use the Punjab parameter. — Nobleeagle [TALK] [C] 05:05, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Criteria for barnstar

Abulfazl, thanks for your inquiry. Any user can award barnstars to other users. Barnstars are rewards to Wikipedia contributors who demonstrate hard work and due diligence. You can read Wikipedia:Barnstars if you would like more information. I hope this helps! With regards, AnupamTalk 20:11, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please contribute

Hi I started a new topic Punjabi wedding traditions, I propose to make this a common topic including Muslim ,Sikh , Hindu , Christian Punjabi traditions . To begin with I have tried not to include any religious flavour but since this is essential I welcome posts from all Punjabi wikipedians the different religious , ethnic ,regional variations . Cheers Intothefire 13:31, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please see

Thank you for stopping by and reading my comments. Instead of leaving my comment here I have put it on the relevant Talk:Sheikhan page. Do visit. --Webkami 10:34, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Attacks in the article Bawa Sada Hussain Shah

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This is taken as an attack since a quick search doesn't show any relation to the name mentioned. As such I take it as a reference to a local person and as such it is eligible for deletion as an attack. Andante1980 06:55, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

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