Talk:Abstract hip hop

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needs a list of abstract artists. ReverendG 00:27, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aesop and CanOx

Whoever wrote this article must not understand the lyrics of the artists mentioned. Most Aesop and CanOx tracks talk about poor urban cityscapes, just like the Gansta rappers. And it shouldn't be considered abstract just because you don't understand the metaphores. You kids need to study more.

[edit] Tribe Called Quest - abstract hip hop

wouldn't a tribe called quest be considered abstract hip hop? q-tip refers to himself as the abstract (poet) Scenario, check the rhyme, jazz, bon. applebum, buggin out, and others primarely deal w/ hypothetical and/or conceptual aspects. and abstract is a tough word to operationally define. so what is being use to refer to 'abstract hip hop'?

 Person referring to others as 'kids'

isn't a metaphor an abstraction of (relatively subjective) reality? thus, metaphors are abstract. and abstract doesn't always have to represent the selective concentration on certain aspects of reality and/or the concept that is being expressed. the abstract can refer to sensations, emotions, and sometimes even society. thus, abstract : concrete :: femenitity : masculinity hence, the abstract pertains to socio-emotional aspects of one's existence; the concrete is w/ regard to goal-orientation and the physical aspects of one's existence. do you consider a Tribe Called Quest 'abstract hip hop'? do others think that abstract hh is a subdivision of conscious hip hop? conscious hh typically focuses on social issues, ie, the aspects of this physical existence that do not pertain to traditional constructs of space and time. would others consider the majority of Native Tongues Posse hip hop artists pertaining to the abstract? Buekerc1 23:00, 7 February 2007 (UTC)