Talk:Ableton Live
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This page was placed on Votes for Deletion in June 2004. Consensus was to keep; view discussion at /Delete.
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[edit] Notoriety
Before adding musicians to the notable users section, please see the Wikipedia page on notability in music. Live users which do not meet these standards (or more accurately, cannot be determined to meet these standards in a couple minutes of searching) will be removed.
Hint: Do not add yourself.
For websites, see the external links guidelines. Usually you should not be adding your own site here. In general links from Wikipedia should be to already established sites, not to sites that have recently been created. (i.e. they should be informational, not advertisements, basically) Scott.wheeler 17:54, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Real-time processing (Mild hyperbole?)
The article states: "Additionally because of the performance aspect of Live's design, all of the processing is done in real-time, rather than rendering effects prior to playback as is typical in many sequencers and sample editors."
I do not know of any sequencer that prerenders effects, and all of the sample editors I have used now support realtime effect processing to some degree.
That all processing is done in realtime in Live is well executed and how the interface to that processing is produced is an important part of live, so I'm not advocating deletion, rather that the (IMO invalid) comparison to the other programs be removed and the line reworded. I'll have a shot at it later when it's percolated a bit in my head. --Kristleifur 00:07, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
- Hmm, not sure I'd agree there, though admittedly, it's been a while since I did a run through of the popular sequencers. Part of what I was trying to say was that there isn't even an option for such, though since that was added in 5.x, that's no longer true. (You can now "freeze" tracks.) Scott.wheeler 21:11, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
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- I see what you mean! I think we're basically on the same page :) What about something like this? It's a bit bloated though: "Additionally because of the performance aspect of Live's design, it is possible to do any audio processing available in the program in real-time, and the user interface is designed to be well-suited to that. " --Kristleifur 00:07, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
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- Fine with me. Scott.wheeler 22:38, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Re-alphabetizing
I've just re-alphabetized the list of notable users, so that artists listed under their given names are alphabetized by last name, as is fairly standard. If anyone has any problem with this, or if I broke anything, my apologies.
Additionally, though I don't really have time to add it myself, it might be nice to see the history of Live delved into more - many users are recent, and might want to know more about how the software has changed from version to version; e.g., what features were added when, &c. Just a thought! 66.7.44.148 20:42, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Notable users
This keeps getting larger by the week. Would it be worth making a new article for the list and then just leave some of the more famous users there? --Jimmyjrg 13:14, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
- No, I disagree with making a new list article. I think a category would be much more appropriate if you'd like to create a directory of people who use/used Ableton Live. Wickethewok 19:12, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
- You're right, that is a much better idea. Jimmyjrg 11:52, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
- I agree that the list is becoming less and less useful. Originally when I wrote it it was simply a list of the artists on the Ableton page. At this point as Live has become increasingly visible it makes less and less sense to list the users. I agree that a category is probably the way to go. This will also remove the need to constantly monitor for folks adding themselves. Scott.wheeler 19:11, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- What should the category be called? [[Category:Artists who use Ableton Live]]? [[Category:Ableton Live users]]? Thoughts? Wickethewok 13:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
- [[Category:Ableton Live users]] would be ok. --Jimmyjrg 06:07, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- Done. Listing is now at Category:Ableton Live users. Wickethewok 18:34, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
- Forgive me if I sound stupid, but what encyclopaedic purpose does having a list of "Ableton Live Users" serve? It seems as though much of the article along with the list serves as more of a bunch of Ableton propaganda than anything. In my personal opinion, the list itself should cease to exist and a criticisms section should be added to the article which, although well written, contains no criticism of the software whatsoever.
The "New features in Live 6" section, also, looks as if it's just an advert for Live 6 in encyclopaedic format. It even contains the price and information on a student discount :|...
Finally, there needs to be sources cited throughout the whole article. We should look at providing a comprehensive roundup of the software as I understand it is very popular. senex 07:48, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
