Talk:Abdominal thrusts
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[edit] Clarifications on when not to use
Yes, I know this text is redundant within the article. However, it is previously indicated in italics rather than in the emergency procedures. I feel it's more likely to be noticed if it is mentioned redundantly, and it is critical information. --Steven Fisher 13:26, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Need for Explanation
"You should not call for help while the victim is able to respond verbally, as the help may attempt the Heimlich maneuver. Only if the victim is unable to reply verbally should the Heimlich maneuver be attempted."
- Is this intended to suggest that one should not seek assistance for a choking person not yet requring abdominal thrusts just in case the person who comes to assist decides to do them anyway??!!
That's what it sounds like to me. You don't want to hurt the person if they can still breathe okay. TheMrFrog 19:02, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that the heimlich manuver can bruise or even break a person's ribs. Somebody should add what injuries the heimlich manuver canresult in. Also, how did austraila replace it, what do they use down under? On a lighter note, I found the description of a chocking person really funny, I always wondered what it meant when a person turned blue.
[edit] Better Image
I think it would be clearer if a photo of an actual demonstration of the maneuver was used, or maybe a diagram showing how it is performed should be included. Eilu 14:00, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
The image should demonstrate a person performing the technique properly, the current image displays the person performing the thrusts with his leg between the victim's legs, this is improper because if the victim were to become unconcious, the rescuer's leg may become broken.67.68.10.170 20:39, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Fabricated results?
On Drowning, someone added the following text to the advice against the Heimlich maneuver for drowning: "Furthermore, news articles have raised concerns that the entire concept is not only useless, but that Dr. Henry Heimlich used fabricated case reports to promote the idea: http://complaint.active.ws". Can someone clarify this, and if possible expand this Abdominal thrusts article (if true) or work comments on the critique in the article somehow if false? Thanks -- Chris 73 | Talk 21:58, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Spelling
Several editors have been doing mass changes in connection with the spelling of the word "maneuver" I would suggest that we are seeing UK vs US and classical vs modern styles. Let's stop the editing on this long enough to settle on one style. Pzavon 16:56, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Clarity
The wording of this whole article is a mess. This article needs clear instructions without redundancy. To me, this article looks like it has been translated from many different languages using an Internet translator. Master Thief-117 19:20, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
- I disagree. The entire article seems to me to be in standard, correct English - perhaps with a flavor of the style of the UK rather than America. I don't see a mess here at all, and certainly no problem with the use of the language. Pzavon 01:03, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Controversal?
The article mentions the procedures is controversial but fails to explain exactly why it is controversial. The controversy, which I have never heard of, should be made clear in the article, if it indeed does exist. --Cab88 09:39, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
- The controversy lies in resuscitating near-drowning victims. The American Red Cross says to go immediately to CPR, Dr. Heimlich says that the Maneuver should be performed 4-6 times, to make sure no water is in the lungs before beginning CPR.Cgirten 19:08, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
