Talk:Abd al-Qadir

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography. For more information, visit the project page.
??? This article has not yet received a rating on the Project's quality scale. Please rate the article and then leave a short summary here to explain the ratings and/or to identify the strengths and weaknesses of the article. [FAQ]
Other languages WikiProject Echo has identified Abd al-Qadir as a foreign language featured article. You may be able to improve this article with information from the Arabic language Wikipedia.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Algeria, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to Algeria on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please join the project.
Start This article has been rated as start-Class on the quality scale.
??? This article has not yet received a rating on the importance scale.

The 1911 edition of The New Century Book of Facts published by the King-Richardson Company, Springfield, Massachusetts gives his birth year as 1807. Our article gives no source for 1808. Does anyone have a trustworthy source? -- Jmabel 00:12, Jul 19, 2004 (UTC)

Britannica on line says 1808. --Tkinias 15:23, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Such one-year differences are typically the result of a conversion from the Islamic calendar, any one year of which typically overlaps with 2 Western years. - Mustafaa 15:16, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

/me slaps forehead. I don't know why that didn't occur to me then... —Tkinias 18:54, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Move

Good luck with the move, Mustafaa. I suspect you may be in for some strenuous opposition from the folks who don't like "foreign-looking" spellings. Leave me a message on my talk page if there is trouble and I miss it. —Sanāsi al-Grīgī a.k.a. Tkinias 18:54, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm not sure whether to prefer this or Abdelkader (the latter being the usual Algerian spelling), but Abdel Kadir is almost uniquely 1911. - Mustafaa 19:48, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Khaled song

I am told by a native speaker that the Khaled song is not about this Abd al-Qadir, but about Abdul Qadir el-Jilani, a medieval sufi master also known as the Rose of Baghdad, founder of the Qadiri sufi order. Jayen466 15:44, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Freemason

Added section on H. H. the Emir Abd el-Qäder's Masonic affiliation. Two contemporary accounts are in Robert Morris's Freemasonry in the Holy Land (1872), Charles Henry Churchill's Life of Abdel Kader, Ex-Sultan of the Arabs of Algeria, (1867). I didn't exactly know how to cite them in text.

The Emir also participated in a Q and A in regard to religious tolerance at the time of his initiation. It was published in a pamphlet by the Grand Orient of France.

--J. J. in PA 07:11, 5 March 2007 (UTC)