Talk:ABC (first aid)

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This needs an urgent merge with First aid, Cardiopulmonary resuscitation, Advanced life support or Advanced cardiac life support. This list of ABCs has been covered in numerous articles, and it makes no sense to rehash them in a seperate article. JFW | T@lk 23:13, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Ok; I was just afraid to add to much content to First Aid; also, i wanted to link other pages, particularly the ABC acronym page to this one. Actually, wait, maybe there could be some more talk, but i'd rather have it here so people could reference it directly. Let me know if that doesn't make sense. JamieJones 05:43, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

There is a good point in moving all ABC stuff to one article. I'd change the title (there's no need for CamelCase) and provide some references here. The ABC is followed even in advanced hospital settings, so you're probably correct that it is best dealt with on its own page. JFW | T@lk 09:35, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm afraid i don't know how to do this. See, I wanted to create a link from the ABC disambiguation page. I can't just have this be the ABC page. So I added the first aid part to make it separate from the ABC disambiguation page. I looked again, and that's what most people did, but sometimes with brackets. Check it out and let me know if there is a way to fix it? I can't move pages because i am new. I think! JamieJones 15:15, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

I suggest the page is renamed to ABC (resuscitation). New users can't do page moves, but I'll perform the move if you think this is the best name. The reason for the page move block is a user called Willy on Wheels who disrupted Wikipedia by moving popular pages around, e.g. to ABC FirstAid on Wheels!. JFW | T@lk 18:00, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Awesome yeah. If you wouldn't mind. Could you also fix Category:First Aid, CPR and First Aid to have the right links? Thanks! JamieJones 02:08, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

PS - if you have a second, can you look at Talk:Veganism...is that person being sarcastic?

[edit] Proposal

Re: the proposed merger/move. We have ABC, ABCD on wikipedia (that I know of, there may be more). We also have ABCDE (from ATLS), ABCDEFG, and many more which exist in the medical world. Nobody really knows what each of the letters is supposed to stand for. Take ABCDE - Airway, Breathing, Circulation, Disability, Exposure is the classic; but we also have A = Airway & cspine control, or assess; B= Breathing, or Bleeding, or Breathing & Bleeding; C = circulation fairly consistently, D = Disability, defecits etc. ; E (which is the most problematic) = Exposure, Environment, Emotions, Examine (or any combination of these, and more!) etc.... Perhaps we should create a page called "Medical assessment priorities" or similar, and talk briefly about each system and its variants? --John24601 07:03, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

That sounds good to me. —Keenan Pepper 15:19, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I've heard "D" be "deadly bleed" or "defib", depending. Sounds like a good idea John24601. You still doing your first aid project? I've been neglecting it cause it seemed like I was the only one! JamieJones ^talk 19:17, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I am, I've just been extremely busy in my real life recently. This is my effort to get back onto it! --John24601 19:47, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Defib revert

Have just reverted an edit adding D (for defib) onto the end, for two reasons. 1) The article is entitled ABC, other variants are discussed in a different place in the article so it was kindof in the wrong place. 2) Whilst the defib does terminate VF/VT, chest compressions are not what causes the heart to "re-sync". Would like to see some inclusion of defib, but it needs properly referencing and adding in the correct place in the article. --John24601 20:29, 28 August 2006 (UTC)