Talk:A Game of Thrones

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Contents 1 Summary? 2 Opening scene (the direwolves)? 3 Delete “Writing” section? 4 Linking to the board game ? 5 Policy concerns

[edit] Summary?

I've added some additional information on the awards the book won and was nominated for, and altered the opening paragraph so it was slightly easier to read. The plot summary is okay but rather 'over-sensitive', in that it is rather vague on what is happening (i.e. we don't find out what hatches from Dany's eggs). I agree that the plot summary should not be extremely in-depth, but it could be rewritten to actually tell the story of what is happening the book in greater detail. The plot summaries for the next three books are even worse, basically just being the publishers' blurb. Any objections to this?--Werthead 20:52, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Opening scene (the direwolves)?

Seems to me that, given the symbolic meaning of that opening scene, it should be in the plot summary. Though I agree it does little to move the actual plot... --Paul Willocx 21:58, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Good point. I also added the scene where Will, Waymar and Gared meet the Others to the Wall section, since establishing the Others early on is a good idea I think.--Werthead 17:01, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Delete “Writing” section?

It seems as if the Writing section has found its way to A Song of Ice and Fire (where it belongs). Should we just remove it from here? I don't think there is much to be said about the theme, style, technique, or history of A Game of Thrones that does not belong at least as naturally to the top article. Arbor 07:55, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. --Paul Willocx 08:04, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Yep. I was going to delete it from here but forgot.--Werthead 19:37, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Linking to the board game ?

There is a board game with the same name as this book (it also plays in the A Song of Ice and Fire universe). There should be some link pointing there ( A Game of Thrones (board game) ).

[edit] Policy concerns

I'm concerned that the current page may be in violation of WP:NOT#INDISCRIMINATE section seven. It would be extremely borderline, but at the moment, much of the non-summary information is in the form of a list. Adding another written section or so would put this firmly in the acceptable camp. Perhaps taking some of the information from the reviews link, and writing a paragraph explaining the serie's significance would be in order? Or would that be too POV? MPoint

The article does mention awards won and translations of the book. It would be nice to discuss critics' analysis of the book, but I don't know how much analysis has been done of it. It's not exactly The Brothers Karamazov. That said, I agree that the summary is quite long. A lot happens in the books, but we should still be able to summarize in less space. — Laura Scudder ☎ 23:42, 21 February 2007 (UTC)