Talk:A flat minor

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Isn't the listing of non-notated pop songs on this page problematic, seeing as how in all but the most extreme cases (Scriabinian madness or chains of modulations with accidentals preserved), equal-tempered pieces based on this pitch in minor are considered G#m instead? I will delate/move the songs soon if nobody can produce a score for them that explicitly shows them to be in A-flat minor. Amber388 18:35, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

The Janacek explicitly uses 7 flats and concludes on A-flat minor chords, seems sufficient to me, but more to the point, that it is described- when given a key at all, as "in A flat minor" is basically sufficient (as with Chopin's Bolero "in C", Mahler's 7th "in E minor", and other works whose keys are more a matter, perhaps, of habitual description than actual agreement with the rules of key and mode association.) Similarly with Dimitrie Cuclin's symphony no. 11 in A flat minor- haven't seen the score, don't know if it uses 7 flats (the finale is in A flat major, just as Myaskovsky's 17th symphony in G-sharp minor uses an Aflat major finale) but the composer's own description of the 11th (Cuclin) is A flat minor, or at least that's what's on the score... Schissel | Sound the Note! 05:37, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Very good. No argument from me on any of these. I was merely asserting that the pop songs that had previously been listed on this page were incorrectly identified. Carry on. Amber388 16:15, 24 November 2006 (UTC)