User:A. B./Sandbox7

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1 Village Pump discussion re:Centiare
- 1.1 Karl Nagel & Company, LLC starts up business controlled Wiki
- 1.2 Centiare update
2 Images for review
- 2.1 OK images (no watermark)
- 2.2 Watermarked images

[edit] Village Pump discussion re:Centiare

"From Google's cache of an early December 2006 Village Pump discussion:

[edit] Karl Nagel & Company, LLC starts up business controlled Wiki

"Centiare is an online reference directory. It supports advocate points-of-view (APOV) within protected "user-owned" commercial, non-profit, government, personal, and property Directory listings, and features advanced semantic tagging capabilities to organize, search and report information." See here. -- Zanimum 14:59, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

WP is NOT for advertising. --Wolf530 (talk) 15:28, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I'm fully aware of that. I was bring it to people attentions so they could know what sites were trying to compete with us, through wacked and naïve ideas. -- Zanimum 18:34, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Advocate-point-of-view? Is that like distorting the truth to promote your or your client's agenda by striving to deceive people and then rationalizing what you've done to cover your lapses in morality? Cryptonymius 16:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

So basically, it's an online advertising service. How new... yandman 16:52, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Just noticing, MyWikiBiz is working there now. -- Zanimum 20:27, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

It appears to have pasted in some pieces of text from Wikipedia, such as under city names, without giving credit as required by GFDL. *Dan T.* 18:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Come to think of it, that's true. That's quite illegal. -- Zanimum 20:25, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

A blatant rip off attempt. I wonder what ought to be done with it. Or just let the stupid lawyers deal with it. -Patstuarttalk|edits 20:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

It appears the only thing copied was the main page - the articles themselves are empty. Patstuarttalk|edits 20:45, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

This one seems to have content from WP. *Dan T.* 22:42, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

So does anyone want to write a nasty-gram? Patstuarttalk|edits 05:44, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Comment posted to this user sub page:
"Wacked and naïve"? I'll have to print out and pin up that quote for posterity. Funny thing, Denny Vrandecic called Centiare "pretty exciting" and wished the project "all the best". Maybe he understands it better than Zanimum. Not hard to imagine, being that Vrandecic is one of the three leading developers of Semantic Mediawiki. He's smarter than all of us put together. --JossBuckle Swami 04:49, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Centiare update

Note: the commenter above is, in fact, the Jimbo-banned AND community-banned (can't hurt to make sure) User:MyWikiBiz. --Calton | Talk 00:26, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

He's having about as much luck in the spamdexing community as he did in ours. This "black hat" SEO forum exchange is worth reading. It starts with a discussion (which you can skip) of Wikipedia's new nofollow implementation for external links. On page 2, post #13, a brand-new forum member chimes in with a post titled "Centiare to the rescue!". By the end of page 4 he's thoroughly unimpressed his potential customers. One of them dryly points out he doesn't even realize his new Wikipedia alternative, running on Wikia software, still has its own links coded "nofollow", making it useless for the SEO (search engine optimization) people he's marketing it to. Uninhibited by WP:CIVIL, the other forum members' responses to his pitch for Centiare make interesting reading for anyone here on Wikipedia who was on the receiving end of JossBuckle Swami's screeds. --A. B. ^(talk) 16:15, 7 February 2007 (UTC)