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[edit] Comment Copied from "Rajput Wikipedia": Muslim who claim to be Rajputs
Okay I won't delete the above paragraph again, sorry, I apologise.There are 3 million of us Rajput muslims in Pakistani Punjab,please don't deny us our heritage...indeed we are proud to be associated with Indians in this way. My Muslim clan meet their Hindu clansmen everyear in Delhi..and we promote Love!!! Now, please don't delete mine below either okay? Otherwise this tit for tat will go on until we involve Wikipaedia, okay! Also, Sikhism is not a sect of Hinduism as it is an independent religion in its own right. HH Sohail, The Raja of Chibistan
Somebody recorded recently that if Rajputs were to convert, they could no longer be called Rajputs!With all due respect perhaps he should read the paragraph below...and remember that unfounded taunts are not very noble. The Discovery of India by Jawaharlal Nehru no less, (Oxford Uni.Press 1985, p62) puts into context the concept of unifying 'lineal' inherited identity with 'religious' duty, "The fact of subsequent conversion to other faiths, did not deprive them of this heritage; just as the Greeks, after their conversion to Christianity, did not lose pride in the mighty achievements of their ancestors, of the Italians in the great days of the Roman Republic and early empire." (p341), "...Christians, Jews, Parsees, Moslems. Indian converts to these religions never ceased to be Indian on account of a change of their faith...."
Nehru also mentioned his own personal experience with Muslim Rajputs as he grew up, "I grew to know; the Rajput peasant and petty landholder, still proud of his race and ancestry, even though he might have changed his faith and adopted Islam." More importantly he bears testament to the fact that despite his change of faith, a Rajput is still referred to and recognised as a Rajput.(The Discovery of India, 2004, Penguin, p51)
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Sir,
Please dont vandalise "Rajput Wikipedia" and delete text randomly, on your insistence I have included a link to Muslim Rajput page from English Wikipedia. In that case, why are POV articles and comments being made by yourself?It is clear who is doing the vandalising.
It is a well known fact that Hindu Rajputs never in the history of India ever converted by the millions to Islam because of their own free will If it is so well known, why is there such a huge dispute on the subject? Because it is an extremists myth....
they were defeated in unequal wars and forced to convert, Unequal? An army fights another. One wins, one loses. If forced, then why didnt they revert immediately afterwards? Nonsense.
those who didnt agree to be converted to Islam were slaughtered by the thousands in front of the very eyes of those who panicked and gave in thus embracing Islam. You were obviously there weren't you. But if Rajputs were as brave as you suggest, then why would they give in? Whatever the premise for becoming Muslim, they clearly never rejected the faith after conversion. That itself nullifies your attempts to prove a fake history.
Invading enemy was famous for raping, slaughtering, and distributing both women and children among themselves after the Rajput (hindu) men died in battle or were slaughtered for not converting. In that case, why did so many famous Hindu Rajput houses give their daughters in marriage to them? Why did they allow these houses to remain Hindu? If it was to placate them, clearly they then possessed an uneasy power of these invaders? Why not use it? Talk sense please...
Please face the truth and the plain facts, this is the knowledge age, no body can afford the excuse that he is from a blindfolded brainwashed lot and dosent know any better. And yet you clearly are brainwashed by the RSS and Hindutva extremists. Take your own advice, and recognise that your romanticised victim syndrome stories are a little out of date and ridiculous to be accepted as 'truth and plain facts.
Sincerely
Best wishes to all who cliam to be Rajputs "Jai Mata Ki"
Atulsnischal 06:20, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Gakhars
Your latest edit to Gakhars removing my post on Gakhar Hindus . Why are you doing this ?
Gakhars living in India are Punjabi Hindus who have migrated to India from West Punjab tha(now falls in Pakistan) including areas of Rawalpindi , Jhelum , Sargodha ,Gujarat , after the partition of India in 1947 .
A simple search for Gakhar on http://www.google.co.in for Gakhar would provide to you enough sources on Gakhars living in India and who happen to be Hindu .
I appreciate your zeal for Gakhar history , however be informed that inconvenient as it may be in your scheme of things regarding Gakhars , a section of Gakhars are adherents to Islam and another are adherents to Hinduism .
Unless you have valid reasons to deny the existence of Hindu Gakhars on the Gakhar page please do not delete .Intothefire 08:54, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
