User talk:85.107.203.168

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Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Some of your recent edits, such as those you made to Battlestar Galactica (2004 TV series), have been considered unhelpful or unconstructive and have been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. the_undertow talk 06:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Mr. Undertow, what is your authority? Do you have an agenda or can you not clearly see the edit I made was done to an entry was a clear religious slur against Jews, Christians and Muslims. Do you not care when someone is talking out of their ass or can someone simply write whatever they want? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.107.203.168 (talk • contribs) 07:14, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

you are using edits like this to insert your POV into the article itself. your additions belong on the discussion page. please see WP:POINT. i don't have any 'authority,' as i am an editor, just like you. take accusations of 'weasel words' and 'slur' to the talk page, instead of altering the section titles. you are free to revert my edit, and restore what you have originally written. i removed the warning, because it seems your edits are in good faith. remember WP is a consensus, so i urge you to take advantage of the discussion pages, and take the time to register. thanks.the_undertow talk 07:35, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

WP is a consensus? Wow, how does that work with truth? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.107.203.168 (talk • contribs) 07:41, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

it doesnt. i took a look at your edits, and i don't see why monotheism is offensive as a word. it simply means 'one diety.' i think you are taking it a bit far by insinuating that a part of the article is offensive to monotheistic religions. here is a read for you. the_undertow talk 07:52, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


Calling Jews, Christians and Muslims by a disguised terms as "Cylon"[A Cybernetic creature made of technology] implies an agenda against monotheists by persons unwilling to discuss religion objectively. They prefer to hide a Jew, Christian or Muslim in terms that demean a belief. Watch an episode and you will quickly understand that when a Cylon agent says "repent or die" they are trying to cast dispersions on persons of faith. You know what happened to this agent? They blew him out of a space portal because they believed his faith was too dangerous to the rest of the crew. It's so obvious its objectionable. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.107.203.168 (talk • contribs) 09:33, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

The show has a cybernetic race called Cylons who believe in a single god. (Proof?) That is a fact of the show and should not be removed from the article. (Not a fact, citation?). If we can find a reliable source that documents that the faiths you name consider this a slur on them, then that would be an appropriate addition to the article. If this is just your opinion, then it is not suitable for the article (and your opinions without citing sources is?) - please see "Wikipedia is not a Soapbox" and "No Original Research" for further reading. So can you provide those references, please, and we can see about building that into the article. (Why is it my edits require discussion and others do not?) Thanks. -- Alucard (Dr.) | Talk 16:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC) (You have an agenda, you are blind, but you prefer this to truth?)
I assume that the comment in parentheses are from you. I will respond... Proof that the show has a cybernetic race called Cylons that believe in one god? Watch the show, or read anything about it. We don't have to prove that they exist or what their god is, we document the contents of the show. Citation: Anyone who watched the show knows that this is a part of the show. The sources I cite are the show itself. Your edits speculate about an aspect of the show that is not in the show and, to my knowledge, has not been discussed anywhere else. All I am asking is for you to provide any references you have to show that this is more than your personal opinion. -- Alucard (Dr.) | Talk 11:46, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, that's right in this universe, montheists are comprised of Christians, Jews, Muslims and Cylons! Silly speculative me! Your agenda stinks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.107.203.168 (talk • contribs) 31 March 2007.

In our universe, examples of monotheists are Christians, Jews, Muslims, Bahá'í, Hinduism, Sikhism, and Zoroastrianism - this is documented in the Wikipedia page on the subject at Monotheism. In the Battlestar Galactica universe - a fictional universe, the Cylons are monotheistic - this is documented in the Battlestar Galactica page that you have been editing. I guess I'm not really sure about the point you are making. One is reality, the other is television fiction. You may not like how the Cylons are depicted in the show, but it's pretty incontrovertible that they are monotheistic, just from watching an episode of the show. I'm sorry you feel that my agenda stinks, but I perceive my agenda as just to make sure that Wikipedia pages conform to the rules of wikipedia. This is the only point I am making here. Wikipedia is not somewhere to express a personal point of view - you have to be able to substantiate it with reliable sources. In this case the reliable source is the show itself. If you can find a reliable source that discusses the viewpoints you have been adding to the page, then I think the article could be made to accommodate them. Look, I am trying to work with you, rather than just quietly reverting your edits, as other editors are doing. I am trying to see if the edits you are making can be made a part of the article, and trying to show you how this could happen. It's not WHAT you are saying that is an issue, it is how you are going about trying to get the information into the article - does this make sense? (please put the characters ~~~~ after your comments so that they get "signed". Thanks. -- Alucard (Dr.) | Talk 12:37, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
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