User talk:85.10.199.106

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hey stop adding links of your website to 1 Night in Paris .Wikipedia is not for advertisements. You will be blocked and your website will be permanently banned if you keep on doing it.

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[edit] Uverifiable language removed from article on Federal Reserve System

An anonymous user at IP 85.10.199.106 re-inserted the following language on 28 June 2006, which verbiage had previously been twice inserted on 27 June by someone at the same address, and removed by another editor:

The Constitution authorizes Congress to coin money, that it's [sic] value must be determinable, (Art 1, Sect 8) and mandates the backing of legal tender by gold or silver. (Art 1, Sect 10)[.] The Federal Reserve Act cedes Congress's power to private banks which may independently create an unlimited supply of unbacked fiat currency, and further mandates the acceptance of these valueless notes as legal tender. These points raise a serious question as to the constitutional legality of the Federal Reserve Act.
The Federal Reserve "Note" has no redeemable value and lacks other aspects that place it outside the historic and general statutory definitions of Negotiable Instruments, (aka Notes) However any instruments issued by the Federal Reserve Banks have been specifically excluded from the requirements governing negotiable instruments. UCC 3-102

I removed the language. I argue that the removed material is unverifiable for purposes of Wikipedia, as the cited material does not appear to support the statements made.

First of all, Article I section 8 of the Constitution grants Congress the power "[t]o coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures [ . . . . ]" Congress has the power to fix the standards of "weights and measures." There is no requirement in this passage that Congress fix the standards of weights and measures. More to the point, nothing in this passage expressly requires that the value of money (as opposed to weights and measures) be fixed or "determinable" by Congress -- whatever that means. Granted, a statement that the value of money must be "determinable" is probably a reasonable-sounding statement, but that in and of itself does not make "determinability" (whatever that means) a legal requirement -- constitutional, statutory or otherwise.

Article I section 10 does not "mandate the backing of legal tender by gold or silver." Article I section 10 states (in relevant part): "No State shall [ . . . ] coin Money [ or ] make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts" (emphasis added). Nothing in Article I section 10 says that Congress cannot establish Federal Reserve notes or hula hoops or ping pong balls (or anything else it pleases) as legal tender. The Federal Reserve System was created by an Act of Congress, not by a "State." Further, nothing in Article I section 10 says that Congress must require that legal tender be backed by gold or silver.

The law arguably may or may not cede Congress' power to "private banks which may independently create an unlimited supply of unbacked fiat currency." This might be the basis for a description of a "criticism" of the Federal Reserve System -- if some elaboration is added. Further, the law apparently does mandate "the acceptance of these [ . . . ] notes as legal tender." (Notice, however, that I deleted the word "valueless" from the quote.) Maybe this would also be the basis for a "criticism" -- but can we get a bit more elaboration in the description of what exactly is deemed to be objectionable?

Anyone who really believes his or her Federal Reserve notes are "valueless" is invited to mail any and all such notes to me personally as a "valueless" gift to me -- and I will be happy to keep and spend those "valueless" notes on such valuable things as music CDs, movie tickets, lunches with friends, and anything else of value I can find to spend them on. It is incorrect -- and more importantly unverifiable for purposes of Wikipedia -- to say that Federal Reserve notes have no "redeemable value." Obviously, if you turn in two fifty dollar bills and receive, in return, a single one-hundred dollar bill, that $100 bill has value. You can still take that one-hundred dollar bill to a restaurant or store and obtain products or services that most people would think are worth - oh, about a hundred bucks. The mere fact that what you receive when you redeem a Federal Reserve note is another Federal Reserve note does not change the fact that all such notes have VALUE IN EXCHANGE FOR VALUABLE PRODUCTS AND SERVICES.

Come on folks, let's get real.

Regarding the statement that "any instruments issued by the Federal Reserve Banks have been specifically excluded from the requirements governing negotiable instruments. UCC 3-102", ummm, well, let's look at that statute (here, the Texas version of Uniform Commercial Code section 3-102):

§ 3.102. SUBJECT MATTER. (a) This chapter [Chapter 3 of the Texas Business and Commerce Code, entitled "Negotiable Instruments"] applies to negotiable instruments. It does not apply to money, to payment orders governed by Chapter 4A, or to securities governed by Chapter 8.

Tex. Bus. & Comm. Code sec. 3.102 (Tex. UCC).

So, let's see now. Chapter 3 of the UCC applies to Negotiable Instruments -- and not to "money" (i.e., not to coins or Federal Reserve notes)! So "money" and "negotiable instruments" and "payment orders governed by Chapter 4A" and "securities governed by Chapter 8" are separate concepts. What a shock. Chapter 3 of the UCC also does not apply to pig's feet and salt water taffy. So what? Let's be a bit more specific about what the "criticism" is supposed to be!

Descriptions of the criticisms of the Federal Reserve System certainly belong in that applicable section of the article -- but let's try to make the specific wording of the insertions a bit more coherent -- and let's make them Verifiable for purposes of Wikipedia. Yours, Famspear 19:52, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spamming

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did in Health insurance. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites that you are affiliated with, and links that exist to attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam policies for further explanations of links that are considered appropriate. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. Gwernol 21:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Please stop adding inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did in Vehicle insurance. It is considered spamming, and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising. Thanks. Gwernol 21:18, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

However worthy the charity is, the above comments also apply to the organisation whose site you added on Ecuador. These links do not add to the encyclodepic knowledge that a wikipedia researcher might need. Kevin McE 17:31, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

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You have been temporarily blocked from editing Wikipedia for continuing to add spam links. If you wish to make useful contributions, you are welcome to come back after the block expires. Persistent spammers will have their websites blacklisted from Wikipedia. --Sam Blanning(talk) 19:04, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

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