User talk:84.9.193.208

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[edit] Traditional counties of the British Isles

Please do not add {{db}} tags to articles that clearly do not qualify for speedy deletion. If you wish to discuss the article's status, you may do so at its talk page, or you may nominate the article for deletion. In order to do that, however, you will need to register. -- Merope Talk 20:01, 10 October 2006 (UTC) I think you misunderstand what speedy deletion means. This kind of article cannot be deleted without input from the community. If you feel it should be deleted, you should register and then go through the articles for deletion process. -- Merope Talk 20:58, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Civility

If you take a minute to read the civility policy, part of it charges regular editors to discourage incivil behaviour. It also specifically includes name-calling and comments on the character of another editor as examples of "incivility" that are not tolerated. Your comments [1] [2] [3] accuse another editor of being irrational, thuggish, indulging in fantasies, being insane (thus requiring therapy), all of which easily falls under the policy.

Quite apart from this, you are not welcome to remove comments of other contributors unless they are personal attacks. Since I did not call you names or belittle you in any way, but rather asked you to please comply with our user conduct policies, it is not a personal attack. The personal attack policy specifical says that respectful comments on the behaviour of an editor are allowed, whereas comments on the editor themself are discouraged (and when they are nasty, forbidden). I have replaced the comment. Note that removing comments without cause is considered vandalism, and my two years of editing here gives me confidence that my comment is not a personal attack and is thus protected by the vandalism policy.

You obviously have useful things to say. By asking you to abide by user conduct policy my intent is to avoid the situation where an admin needs to block you for violation, which would be a loss to the project of a new editor. Do you believe that calling people irrational and terming their beliefs "fantasies" is allowed by our civility and no personal attacks policy? If you do, then I'm open to hearing the rationale behind that. After all, you may have something new and enlightening to say on this subject that will change my mind. — Saxifrage ✎ 22:44, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh, an addendum: You asked why the comment I replied to of yours is incivil while the one above it is not. I didnt' comment on the one above, because there is a certain leniency—after all, the penalty for being incivil is a short, temporary block, but this is often overkill. Just so, a one-time violation can be overlooked so long as it does not become a habit. That editor has not shown consistent incivility yet, whereas all your edits make a point of belittling the others. If that editor persists in throwing around words like "ridiculous", a reminder to them to be civil would be warranted as well, or perhaps a short instructive block. Regardless, it remains that what you are writing is unacceptable, and what measures are taken against others' behaviour does not change this. I have singled you out as needing some teaching about how Wikipedia works because of the extreme degree of incivility you are indulging in. I hope that you prefer being talked to about this respectfully rather than blocked without warning? — Saxifrage ✎ 22:58, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
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