Talk:2 Tone

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Contents 1 Second wave ska 2 I Say 2 Tone, You Say Two Tone... 3 Merge or not? 4 Rename? 5 Punk?

[edit] Second wave ska

Does anyone agree with me that a new page should be created, titled 'Second wave of ska'. It could either suppliment or redirect to this page. There is a whole page for the third wave of ska which could give some ideas. Falcolombardi87 18:10, May 2, 2005 (UTC)

• That wouldn't make sense, since 2 Tone is synonomous with the second wave of ska. There would be nothing different to write in a separate article.Spylab 16:47, 11 August 2006 (UTC)Spylab

[edit] I Say 2 Tone, You Say Two Tone...

With regard to the previous post, I think that there should be a separate 'ska revival' article which could cover not only the 2 Tone bands and their contemporaries and associates (Bad Manners, UB40 etc) but also the acts who eventually emerged from the US like No Doubt. --Paolo Meccano 11:51, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Why oh why is this listed under Punk Rock? It's punk-influenced, but more attitudinally (DIY music-label; musicians with daft stagenames) than musically (which is basically Ska/Reggae with a Pop flavouring). More to the point, why in hell is Punk being called Punk Rock? Punk Rock was invented by Malcolm McLaren (as he never stops telling his home help) and lasted all of five minutes in real musical terms.

Nuttyskin 05:50, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Given that the scene was named after the label itself, I feel that the article would be more correctly titled '2 Tone', especially as that is the most widely-used form of the name.

The label itself lent its name to the type of music called 'two tone', but as the article rightly points out, there are 'two tone' bands signed to the Stiff and Go labels as well. ::[[User:Gerry Hillman

[edit] Merge or not?

I disagree that 2 Tone and 2 Tone Records be merged, however the articles should be improved to make more of a distinction. Not all bands associated with the 2 Tone genre had records on 2 Tone records, and not all bands released on 2 Tone Records fits the typical 2 Tone sound, which was a mix of ska and punk rock. Spylab 16:16, 11 August 2006 (UTC)Spylab

[edit] Rename?

Maybe this should be renamed as 2 Tone (genre) or 2 tone (subculture) or something similar, to further distinguish itself from the 2 Tone Records article. Spylab 16:44, 11 August 2006 (UTC)Spylab

[edit] Punk?

Why this article is categorized in punk genres? There is a confusion, this kind of music refers to skinheads (not only I know), not punk, its not the same thing. Stevo 11:37, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

• 2 Tone is a mix of ska and punk rock music, so many people consider it a subgenre of punk music. The categorization is based on the style of music, not what subcultures the fans belonged to.Spylab 13:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC)Spylab

I don't see any punk influence in 2-tone ska, but if you say so... Stevo 14:43, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

• 2 Tone music was created by combining ska and punk rock. It even says so in the opening sentence of the article.Spylab 16:23, 28 September 2006 (UTC)Spylab