User talk:24.235.185.65

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[edit] David Bernardi

(copied from the response to your post on the General Complaints page.)

In general, we desire some indication that a person really exists, and is in some way noteworthy or notable, to retain an article about that person on wikipedia. See WP:BIO for some often used rules of thumb on biographical articles. See WP:MUSIC for some often cited criteria on including bands and musicians. We can not include an article on every person on earth, and even if we could, that would eb "an indiscriminate collection of facts" rather than an encyclopedia. see What wikipedia is not. There is considerable dispute on where to draw the line between inclusion and exclusion. A person or topic does not need to be referenced on google to be included, but most modern topics and people that are both real and noteworthy are so refernced, so the lack of any google hits is often taken as a red flag. When we do need are verifiable citations of information that establish a reasonm why a person (or a topic) is a proper subject of an encyclopedic article. There is also something of a prejudice agaisnt articles that it is suspected that people have written about themselves, (often called "vanity articles") or that fans, freinds, or students may have writen about another person (often called "tribute articles") because often such articles do not adhere to the neutral point of view, and because often they exagerate the importance or signifigance of the subject. If an article about you (or anyone else) has been nominatd for deletion, the best method is to add facts to the article that clearly show the person's importance or signifigance, along with citations of sources from which those facts can be verified, and to point out those facts in the deletion discussion. If you would like to discuss this further, feel free to put a msg on my talk page. DES (talk) 16:12, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

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