User talk:24.116.127.234

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[edit] searchtexoma.com

[1] Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that exist to attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam policies for further explanations of links that are considered appropriate. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. --Hu12 03:56, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[2]Please stop. If you continue spamming you will be blocked from editing. Hu12 05:42, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
[3] Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. At any rate please do not do more than three reverts in a 24h period. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you. Hu12 05:43, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
This is your last warning. The next time you insert a spam link, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Persistent spammers may have their websites blacklisted from Wikipedia. --Hu12 05:53, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
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You have been temporarily blocked from editing Wikipedia for continuing to add spam links. If you wish to make useful contributions, you are welcome to come back after the block expires. Persistent spammers will have their websites blacklisted from Wikipedia. ViridaeTalk 05:57, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello, I don't mind being blocked. As long as my copyrighted information stays on this page I will continue to make the edits. I hate people who take content from websites and try to get credit for it. If you continue to allow this content to be posted I will need to take further actions against wikipedia.org. Please tell me who I would need to contact in order to give wikipedia a chance to defend themselves. I have the content feeds submitted to google.com and it is still current on http://www.alexa.com way back machine. So editors please discuss or point me in the right direction of handling this in a civilized manner since you are unable to try and work with me. All you try to do is block people for what? You don;t get paid and you don;t know what you are doing. Adding cities hundreds of miles from Texoma is bogus. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.116.127.234 (talk • contribs) 23:30, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
This is becoming a clear case of ongoing incivility.--Hu12 01:58, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your claim of copyright infringement

Are you saying this article contains material you hold the copyright to?

Quick Google searches on key phrases turn up no places on the web as of today with that wording:

You're not claiming copyright to the material you've added here are you? If so, it won't work since you surrender your rights to anything you add to Wikipedia.

Here are the relevant Wikipedia resources on copyright:

Finally, which towns are you saying are located hundreds of miles from the Red River? I'll be happy to remove them. --A. B. (talk) 00:16, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Hundreds of miles away from Texoma. Read the post and remove. —the preceding comment is by 24.116.127.234 (talk • contribs) 06:30, 14 December 2006: Please sign your posts!.
Here's the only town you've noted here or on the Texoma talk page, along with my response:
  • "Does anyone else agree that Quanah, Texas is not part or considered part of Texoma? It is more than 250 miles away. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.116.127.234 (talk • contribs)."
    • "See the article for Quanah, Texas; it's a city in Hardeman County, Texas about 10 miles south of the Red River and the Oklahoma state line. If you don't believe me, check out the satellite images; there are links at the bottom of the article. --A. B. (talk) 12:49, 12 December 2006 (UTC)"
Take your choice of maps and satellite imagery and see for yourself (you made need to zoom out a notch or two to catch both the town and the rvier:
What other towns are you saying are hundreds of miles away from the Red River? They're all in one of the counties along the Red River -- check their articles and you'll see. --A. B. (talk) 14:33, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sock IP's

Note; also uses account of 71.96.181.77 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RDNS • RBLs • block user • block log)--Hu12 01:24, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Linking data:
Whois/traceroute data indication a cableone.net cable modem customer probably in the vicinity of Dallas or Sherman, TX. --A. B. (talk) 02:00, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

If you are looking for me I am in the Dallas/Area. I am in TEXOMA. I have several servers I use as well. So feel free to as them as you need. Until you change my content I will pursue this matter. I am a small business owner being scammed by an editor trying to hurt my family and I. At this point I just want my content reoved from this website. Write something original. DONT STEAL!!!!!! See searchtexoma.com/abouttexoma.html—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.116.127.234 (talk • contribs) 04:24, 13 December 2006.

"scammed", "trying to hurt my family and I", "I will pursue this matter"...Please do not make personal attacks or legal threats against other users of Wikipedia. Similarly, slander, libel, and defamation of character are not tolerated against editors on Wikipedia.--Hu12 04:45, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, 24.116.127.234, I don't see any text on the searchtexoma page you cited above that is in Wikipedia's Texoma article. Am I missing something?
Nobody is trying to hurt you or your family. Wikipedia has rules on content and links. Your link doesn't meet the rules. We're just sticking to the rules. You're not.
I have bent over backwards to address your concerns. I spent a lot of time rewriting the article from scratch because you said it violated copyright laws. Once I'd done that, your only reaction was to then make derogatory statements about my work and claim that now I had stolen your material. I have tried to explain the rules nicely. You ignored them.
Your editing history shows you've made 16 edits to this article to date:
DUPLICATED!!!! —the preceding comment is by 24.116.127.234 (talk • contribs) 00:27, 14 December 2006: Please sign your posts!.
And that's it. That's almost the entire extent of your involvement: 7 smaller towns, a lot of spam, a misguided deletion DUPLICATE and a lot of accusations. (Comment in all caps inserted by 24.116.127.234, 00:27, 14 December 2006
On top of all of this, it now turns out that you have been adding this link in violation of Wikipedia's Conflict of Interest Guideline since it's a link to your own web site.
IT IS COPIED FROM MY WEBSITE I WROTE IT! check searchtexoma.com/abouttexoma.html —the preceding comment is by 24.116.127.234 (talk • contribs) 00:27, 14 December 2006: Please sign your posts!.
The rules say you don't get a link in Wikipedia. You can use a dozen accounts to keep spamming a link to Wikipedia, but it's only going to get deleted and eventually put on the Wikimedia Spam Blacklist.
Who cares? Just don;t steal my content! —the preceding comment is by 24.116.127.234 (talk • contribs) 00:27, 14 December 2006: Please sign your posts!.
The Spam Blacklist is reserved for sites that have persistently spammed Wikipedia after repeated requests to desist. You have to work really hard to get on the list; we're conservative about adding people since it's publicly posted and crawled by search engines. (You can see the list at meta:Spam blacklist). Depending on what rumors you believe, the big search engines' anti-spam folks may or may not use this data in making their own decisions about sites they suspect of search engine spamming. You're not there yet, but you're getting closer -- after all, you have been asked many, many times not to add those links.
In conclusion, please consider that Wikipedia's content has been compiled by thousands of volunteers working millions of hours over several years to provide a comprehensive overview of human knowledge. Believe it or not, they did all this work so that such information might be freely available to millions of people around the globe ... not to promote your business in Texoma.
--A. B. (talk) 05:34, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I didn't delete Grayson Count check history it was duplicated. Red River is the second biggest tourist attraction next to the lake itself. Check red river historical museum plus it is connected to Lake Texoma at the Denison Dam. How is this redundant? —the preceding comment is by 24.116.127.234 (talk • contribs) 00:27, 14 December 2006: Please sign your posts!.

User: A.B. update your page I would like to discuss. You are very active yet your user page says you are taking a break. Do us a favor update your page or go back to break. —the preceding comment is by 24.116.127.234 (talk • contribs) 00:38, 14 December 2006: Please sign your posts!.

I'm don't understand the relevance of my user page. It is "activated" as you put it. It's also semi-protected, like several others, because it was getting routinely vandalized by a particular vandal. If you read the comment on the page, it says I'm on an intermittent Wikbreak; sometimes I can edit, sometimes I travel on short notice and am gone for a while. We seem to be discussing OK here. --A. B. (talk) 14:39, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
1. The Red River (Mississippi watershed) article is already linked in the text. The Wikipedia Manual of Style says to put wikilinks in the "See Also" section that aren't in the main text.
2. I've looked at the text at searchtexoma.com/abouttexoma.html and I don't see Texoma article text there. Nowhere on that page do I see the text from the Texoma article:
"Texoma, a portmanteau of the words Texas and Oklahoma, is used to describe the area on either side of the border between these two states along the Red River valley, in particular the area around Lake Texoma, a popular recreation area.
The Texoma area is also a designated American Viticultural Area."
What am I missing here? Are you claiming that you invented the concept that Texoma is a combination of the words Texas and Oklahoma? Or that the Red River separates the two states? Or are you claiming the list of cities? Lake Texoma? The Viticultural Area?
3. And yes, you are absolutely right, when you deleted Grayson County, Texas, it was a redundant entry. I stand corrected. --A. B. (talk) 00:59, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

did not invent anything just wrote the content for this article. Also you said I put in a bunch of bogus small towns in the Texoma article. You must not know a lot about Texoma because the largest city Sherman, Texas (according to Texoma Council of Governments in which you agree by as stated earlier) is 35,082 population. Texoma is made up of many small towns and here in Texoma we feel they all are a very important part of our community. Which small town would you like removed? If we remove one part of Texoma it would provide visitors incorrect information and that would be against wikipedia.org policy. The Red River according to you is (Mississippi watershed) but it is very important to the fisherman and boaters of our community. Here in Texoma it is estimated that more than 40% of our population fish at least once annually. So it would not serve wikipedia.org or natitive Texomans well if we leave out such a big part of Texoma. This is about our roots and we take great pride in showing our area and we hope in turn we can have more tourist and continue to grow in the near future. How come you have not activated your user page? You seem to be quite active.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.116.127.234 (talk • contribs) 05:51, 14 December 2006.

Response:
  • If you are saying that the copyright infringement comes from Wikipedia hosting (without acknowledgement) the content you have added to the article, then maybe I have misunderstood you all along. If you're not saying that the material I added was stolen from somewhere off Wikipedia, but rather that you still hold the copyright to text you have added to the article, then here are the applicable rules:
  • If instead, you are still insisting that we removed material word for word from your article, please see several earlier posts about this by myself and others on this page and on the Texoma article talk page.
    • If, after reading what we wrote in those earlier posts, you still think there's an infringement, take the problem to Wikipedia:Copyright problems. The admins and editors that work with that page are copyright experts and likely to be very sympathetic and very responsive if they believe you have a real case. Once they have made a determination, they will resolve the problem one way or the other immediately; that policy comes all the way from the top of the Foundation.
  • I don't think anyone has said you "put in a bunch of bogus small towns". I only noted that you added 7 towns; no one commented on their size. If they have a Wikipedia article and they're in the Texoma area, then they should be listed. You've since added some more; that's good -- keep it up.
  • I made no comment about any link to a small town's article being a "bogus entry."
  • I have not asked that any town be removed, nor have I removed the towns you added, other than "Texoma"; there's no article for a town named Texoma nor did your entry specify which state it was in. The U.S. Post Office has no zip code for a town of that name in either state.
  • The formal title of the Red River article is "Red River (Mississippi watershed)". If you use [[Red River]] without "piping" the link to Red River (Mississippi watershed) (example:[[Red River (Mississippi watershed)|Red River]], then it takes the reader to a disambiguation page, "Red River", where they pick which of the 23 articles with "Red River" in the title they want. See the Wikipedia Manual of Style and the articles linked to it for more on this stuff. If you look at the link I inserted for the Red River at the lead of the article, it's a piped link that leads straight to the correct river article. The second sentence of the Red River (Mississippi watershed) article reads:
    • "It rises in two branches (forks) in the Texas Panhandle and flows east along the border of Texas and Oklahoma, and briefly between Texas and Arkansas."
  • No one here has commented on Texas fishermen nor suggested leaving out the Red River.
I'm sorry about the confusion over the copyright issue -- I hope this clears it up. --A. B. (talk) 13:57, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Follow -up on your complaints about my user page: I just noticed that I had forgotten to also update my user talk page page to read "intermittent" Wikbreak. It's fixed now. --A. B. (talk) 14:46, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

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Please do not replace Wikipedia pages or sections with blank content. It is considered vandalism. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. Hu12 09:48, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please sign your comments

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[edit] www.copyscape.com results

Copied from User talk:Academic Challenger[18]:

"Whos time have I taken up? If anyone has time invested it is me. So if you have problems with editing than let someone else do it. I thought a spammer was a cheater or a fake, trying to get something for free by wrong means. Not me, I am the victim check out http://www.copyscape.com/ and see for yourself that over 77% of the content is stolen off of my website. It would be higher if I add the cities that I put on the article but that is indeed enough copied content to damage and destroy my website. Please just make it easy on everyone by adding my link or rewriting the article. That is all I ask. I am trying to work this out in a civilized manner and giving you all the chances in the world to make this right. This is costing me hundreds of dollars daily not including my business hours and being logged. One more time just make it simple.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.116.127.234 (talk • contribs) 06:12, 14 December 2006."
Uhhh.. http://www.copyscape.com/ does not show any copyright infringement by Wikipedia in its results for either searchtexoma.com/abouttexoma.html or searchtexoma.com --A. B. (talk) 08:11, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More searchtexoma.com spam + now adding Cognigent spam

Additional accounts used:

Additional domain spammed by Rhondahudson:

  • cognigen.net (spammed by many unrelated spammers these days) Now blacklisted
    • Current list of articles with these links

Other Cognigent-affiliated sites to watch out for:

--A. B. (talk) 21:15, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

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