User talk:216.45.251.197

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BLOCKED: SEE User:Paul Vogel, a.k.a. Needle -- 01:58, 2 March 2006 (UTC)



This is regarding your edits to the article Pantheism. Please don't just copy and paste large portions of content from another article (specifically, from William Luther Pierce). If Pierce is relevant to Pantheism, then feel free to mention him in context and provide a link to his article. However, continually posting this same material may be seen as vandalism. Thanks! --PeruvianLlama(spit) 23:16, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

He is relevant to pantheism/cosmotheism, so he was mentioned in context. However, I will add a link to his article to avoid any false charges of vandalism. Thanks! :D

Hi. Please do not add diffs, rather, link the article directly (internally). Thanks. El_C 02:35, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi. The direct article keeps being POV-reverted (internally) to an inferior and to an incorrect and less-informative one. See the history. Thanks! :D


Why are you still doing it? It is not permitted and appears to be making an inappropriate point. Please cease and discuss the pertinent issues. If you persist, you may be temporarily be blocked from editing. Thanks in advance, again. El_C 16:20, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Again, Hi. It is also not permitted to vandalize articles with inaccurate and biased pov viewpoints and false reverts. The direct article keeps being POV-reverted (internally) to an inferior and to an incorrect and less-informative one. See the history. Which behavior is far more "inappropriate"? Stating the unbiased facts within articles in a NPOV or allowing biased editors to revert articles to only reflect their own political or religious bias? Thanks! :D

Content disputes are outside our mandate as administrators. Please use Wikipedia's dispute resolution or any other pertinent channels. You simply cannot circumvent the rule that articles are to be linked internally, as opposed to via your prefered diff. El_C 16:34, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Why can some editors circumvent the rule of NPOV for content which is far more important than any "rule that articles are to be linked internally"?. Maybe, all admins. should just not enforce any such rules that only bias or favor one editor or that favor only one group of editors over any and all others?

Because what is seen as N/POV often varies widely. This is your final warning; the next time you replace the internal link with the diff you will be blocked from editing for a while. You need to work toward getting the current article up to par, holding on to your diff in this way will result in nothing but grief. You don't need to take my word for it, ask any other of the ~700 admins. El_C 16:43, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

I didn't replace the internal link with the diff this time but only added it to the end of "cosmotheism", as there are external relevant links that were only pov-excluded in that current William Pierce article and some fixes to other links and to the format. The link is to an article that IS UP TO PAR, and is being reverted to an INFERIOR and INACCURATE version by a pov-biased editor. For an example, see the References Section of that article and also all of the missing and deleted links! I have compromised by not replacing the internal link with the diff but only adding it to the article that doesn't have one. You should NOT edit or block ANY EDITOR that is only trying to improve only the factual accuracy and NPOV within articles.

Negative, do not add that diff into the article space instead or alongside the article. Final (final) warning. El_C 17:04, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Where is it stated by any rule within Wikipedia that adding ANY DIFF within ANY other NON-article space within Wikipedia is NOT ALLOWED? Post this specific rule here and where I can read it myself. Do not issue warnings to rules that you are just making up yourself as you go along. There is an AESOP fable that comes to mind. The wolf and the sheep?

The rule is Wikipedia is not a soapbox. Regardless, I'm uninterested in allegories, metaphores, fables, and so on. If you wish for another admin to take over, by all means, feel free (i.e. I will immediately uninvolve myself at that time, quite gladly, to be perfectly honest). El_C 17:21, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree that Wikipedia should NOT be ANY soapbox for ANY POV-BIAS. I am interested in the facts and in accuracy within articles. It is too bad that you are uninterested in allegories, metaphores, fables, and so on. You could learn quite a bit of wisdom from some of them.


The rule is Wikipedia is not a soapbox. Regardless, I'm uninterested in allegories, metaphores, fables, and so on. If you wish for another admin to take over, by all means, feel free (i.e. I will immediately uninvolve myself at that time, quite gladly, to be perfectly honest). El_C 17:21, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it seems that you have become "emotional" over something that requires a more logical and reasonable and neutral and only unbiased point-of-view. The whole point of having a on-line encyclopedia is always to provide only honest and unbiased information within all of the articles, and a NPOV, especially and even on "touchy" subjects.

I blocked you for 3 hours (most admins would opt for 24). Once the block period expires, please have another admin look into this. El_C 17:27, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, for just proving my point! :D Blocking or censoring, just because you have become "emotional" or "tyrannical", is both typically pov and narcissistic.

[edit] block

You have been blocked from editing for twenty-four hours for persistent PoV-pushing disruption, despite multiple warnings. If on the block's expiry you wish to edit in line with Wikipedia guidelines and policies, you'll be welcomed; otherwise blocks will increase in length. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 10:29, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, Mel Etitis, for just proving my point yet again! :D Blocking or censoring, just because you have become "emotional" or "tyrannical", is both typically pov and narcissistic. And such lying hypocrisy as yours is the "hallmark" or actual "mark of the beast"!

Ah yes, that would follow; blocking you from editing clearly makes me the embodiment of evil. I'm almost tempted to lift the block in acknowledgement of your modesty, but I'll restrain myself. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 16:47, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, and most especially, for only your own quite selfish and pov reasons, all sarcastic irony aside. :D My modesty? Excuse me, but, I am not the one with the ego problem that "blocks" others pov to only favor their own? I am not the one "censoring" am I? Your chutzpah is amazing but only to those that do not know the real "mark of the beast". :D

Blocked by (apparently) Satan's minion for persistent petty vandalism and PoV pushing, despite warnings and an earlier block. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 20:14, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Blocked for forty-eight hours for performing exactly the same edits as before. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 21:09, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Blocked for a week for peforming the same edits, this tiume with the charming addition of Holocaust denial on Talk:Cosmotheism. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 18:44, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Responding to the note on my talk page, I will not unblock this account. The history of edits strongly suggests that this user is Paul Vogel, and regardless of who made them they have not been helpful to the project. -Will Beback 18:11, 7 February 2006 (UTC)


You have been blocked from editing Wikipedia for repeated vandalism. If or when the block expires, please refrain from vandalizing or this account will face longer blocks, and action could be taken against the individual who uses it. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:05, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Blocked 22:47, 18 March 2006 (UTC). BCorr|Брайен