User talk:213.155.224.232

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Are you talking about the maps? Actually i was thinking about doing a version of the map for each district, but not this month though. Maybe in September... Cattus 17:07, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Late November 1984 and 2006 Nor'easters

It appears we have reached an impasse between what the internet refers to the cyclone (which may be the fault of the original naming of this page) and United States-centered POV. For the time being, I'll continue to avoid POV and leave the name alone. Thegreatdr 18:10, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Typography in article titles

Which kind of problems does it generate? How does locale interferes? It is long time since Unicode has been around, are you suggesting reverting back to ASCII?

-- Leandro GFC Dutra 13:54, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


Please register at Wikipedia.
Please check if it is not a bug. Unicode since be all is used for storage naming in whichever locale since at least MS Windows NT, and anyway Firefox must deal correctly with it since XML is defined on Unicode.
Also, if it is a Wikipedia policy, please point me to where it is spelled and justified.
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Leandro GFC Dutra 16:47, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Use another username.
BTW, I use an n dash (separator), not an m dash (parenthetical).
MS Windows is unsupported, you should be using MS Windows NT at least.
I had never seen that instruction, thank you very much. It seems to tell us to use the n dashes correctly, as has been the practice in WP for some time now, but to provide an hyphen-minus redirect. That, and it is contradictory, but that should be left to a discußion there.
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Leandro GFC Dutra 00:40, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dashes

Thanks for the enlightenment. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:24, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Hyphens / Dashes

Sorry that I am pestering ;-), but ... At WP:MOSDASH is Manual_of_Style_(dashes)#Dash_guidelines_for_Wikipedia_editors mentioned: Hyphens and dashes are generally rather avoided in page names (e.g., year of birth and death are generally not used in a page name to disambiguate two people with the same name). …If hyphens and dashes are needed to write a page name correctly (e.g., Piano-Rag-Music, Jack-in-the-box, Nineteen Eighty-Four), prefer simple hyphens, and avoid hair spaces, even in the odd case of a range forming part of the title, e.g., History of the Soviet Union (1985-1991). I see some work to do for a bot… --213.155.224.232 20:31, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Meanwhile I certainly found out the reason. When you save a HTML page, by default most browsers use the title tagged name of the page. Windows or even Windows NT however doesn't save the dashes as Unicode characters but as ASCII-150 (for the m-dash). When now loading the file into IE or Firefox the file name is considered an URL to the local HD, but within URLs only lower case characters are allowed. As a result opening it fails. I am not aware if the problem occurs in Latin-1 based languages as well, but at least in every localised Windows/NT version which primarly uses Latin-2 character sets. It's basically a kind of inconsistency between ASCII and ANSI. I experimentated a bit and it seems that the single quotes (left and right) - but not the abostroph - are causing the same problem. --213.155.224.232 09:50, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

This certainly sounds strange. MS Windows NT should already use Unicode for file names, no matter which encoding programs use for contents; and Firefox should also do Unicode OK. And URLs can certainly contain upper case characters, which have nothing to do with encoding at all. Do you use FAT instead of NTFS? Also, MS Windows NT is also unsupported; only (I think) MS Windows 2000 or newer should be in usage, besides the obviously better alternative of any free software OS such as GNU/Linux or some BSD.
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Leandro GFC Dutra 22:29, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
This might be an interesting point to bring up on the talk of WP:MOSDASH or on the technical village pump; at the moment the guidelines would seem to be inconsistent and/or unclear (there are some examples with ndashes in the title on WP:MOSDASH), but if it's causing technical problems that may be a reason to change the guidelines. At the moment, I won't change it back yet again so as not to start a move war (that page seems to have had enough names, according to the number of double-redirs I had to fix), so it's probably worth having some discussion first. --ais523 13:52, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
I've transferred the discussion to WP:VPT. --ais523 13:52, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
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