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[edit] Bidding process

I think this page should be moved to a separate page which describes the whole bid process. I mean by the time it is 2010, no one wants to see all this stuff about Salzburg, Pyeongchang, etc.. on this page. Any suggestions for what to name the page we move this to? The page could also contain all sorts of information (current events basically) about the construction of venues, scandals, etc... dave 23:27 20 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I don't see any reason the bid history shouldn't be part of all olympic games articles.
I compacted the bid information into a concise section so that it doesn't seem to dominate the entire article. --Gerald Farinas 19:34, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
By the time the 2010 Olympics start the page probably won't be dominated by the bidding process with all the information, especially not after the games. And also, who says people aren't interested in the bidding history? I am.


[edit] Vancouver -Salt lake

The games are returning to North America just eight years after Salt Lake City hosted the games in 2002.

I dont think it's good to use it, because it's give the illusion it's surprise it's come in North america that fast. Since the 2008 games where suposse to be held in North America ( but wil be held in China), it's look easy the 2010 will come in North America. Since 2002, Vancouver are the only North america city to win the right of host the games, so the just eight years after should be delete.

[edit] Paralympics link

Sorry to the anon IP about the Paralympics link - I meant to move it to See also, not remove it altogether. (Btw, you may want to sign up for an account!) -- Chuq 01:20, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Controversial logo

this has been a no-mainstream controversy about the logo. the logo was chosen to represent the native peoples, however they chose and inukshuk, an inuit tradition. there are no inuit in british columbia, definetly not in vancouver, no native inuit anyways. it would have made more sense to make the logo, budah. but that's not the controversal part that's just the stupid and ignorant part. the controversal part is the fact that in british columbia we have several natives groups. why wasn't a totem pole or native art work chosen as the logo? we have a massive abundence of this artwork that people aparently enjoy. -- comment by User:70.66.188.94 on 02:18, 31 October 2005

Yeah, but I think it's controversial because it looks very familiar to the 1988-199http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2010_Winter_Olympics&action=edit&section=39 Family Channel logo. Compare:

Image:2010 Winter Olympics logo.png Image:Family Channel.JPG

-- comment by User:PsychoJason on 02:40, 20 December 2005
This logo was most likely designed to represent all native peoples of Canada, and the inukshuk (or in this case, an inunguat) just happens to be the most well-known native Canadian symbol in the world. --  Denelson83  06:26, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Well, most well-known after the totem poll (which actually existed historically in BC) anyway. As for it representing all native peoples of Canada... I think that's a perfect example of a non-native view of native people. --TheMightyQuill 02:37, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Michaëlle Jean

Please stop saying that Michaëlle Jean won't be the governor general in 2010. She was named in October 2005, which means she WILL be the governor general in 2010. She IS expected to open the Olympic games. -- SNIyer12, (talk), 17:33, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Can you prove without a doubt that she'll be Governor General in 2010? Might she not resign? Is she immortal? The fact that she was appointed by the Queen in 2005 holds no bearing over potential future events. Similarly, why do you fight for Jean to be specifically named but are satisfied with the vague reference to the Monarch of Canada? It seems you know for sure Jean will be GG, but don't know whether Elizabeth II or Charles III will be Sovereign. Just leave the names out of it until the future when we can be more certain of what personalities will be present. --gbambino 18:15, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
I agree, unless a programme or an official guest list has been issued for that evening no one can say that if a Head of State, whoever it may be, would actually open the Games. We have seen in several Games held in the US the vice president opened the Games. --Kvasir 09:34, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] First time indoor

  • Please keep in mind that prior to 1984, the closing ceremony was traditionnally in the figure skating arena and therefore indoors.Hektor 17:26, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
    • I'm not sure that's true, and even if it is, remember that the figure skating arena itself was outdoors until the 1960 games. Crunch 02:07, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gordon Campbell

Please stop removing the fact that Campbell is a Vancouver native. He is from Vancouver. He was born in Vancouver and his lived his life in Vancouver. He was mayor of Vancouver as well. -- User:SNIyer12 18:05, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Olympics will make Vancouver the largest city ever to host a Winter Olympics.

Isn't Turin larger than Vancouver ?Hektor 12:47, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

According to the wikipedia Turin aticle, "The population of Turin city is 908,000 (2004 census), but with its metropolitan area totals about 1.7 million inhabitants". The Vancouver article states that "The city's population is 545,671 and that of the metropolitan area is 2,186,965 (2001 census)." --thirty-seven 18:01, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
The Olympics are hosted by a city, not by a urban area and 908,000 is larger than 545,671.
Well, don't forget to add Whistler and every little village that has one of the venues. --Kvasir 05:58, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


I not agree because the city of Vancouver proper are the seven in canada...but with a sururban area of 2 millions. Vancouver do not reflect a city of only 500 000, but a city of 2 millions. So yes it's will be the largest city. For the viewers of the olympics, went we are at cypress mountain and we see the city of Vancouver from the summit, we still are in Vancouver. So yes the city of Vancouver wil be the largest city to ever host the winter olympic.

I understand you're point of vue, but i dont think it's right.

[edit] Additional events

I've added references to the 3 potential events. I could not find any information in the FIS website about the inclusion of ski cross, ski slopestyle, and snowboard slopestyle. Hence, I have deleted them. If anybody DOES have information on those events, please add them to the list and give references.

  • Well the next day FIS posted information that they are sending proposals to the IOC about including women's ski jump, ski cross, and a team alpine event. The problem is, I can't link to the reference page through wikipedia. [Go here] and then click on the "Edition 77" link. It's a javascript pop-up, but that type of link won't work here in wikipedia. Any help? Another problem is that the [US ski website] also lists nordic combined mass start as another event that FIS wants in the Olympics, but the FIS site has no mention of it.
    • Try this link? Though a link isn't strictly necessary -

      International Ski Federation (2006). FIS News-Flash #77. "Decisions of the 45th International Ski Congress in Vilamoura (POR)." 31 May 2006.

      would be quite a sufficient citation. -- Jonel | Speak 20:21, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A map

I think if we could somehow include a map of Vancouver and the surrounding areas we could give the readers a better idea where the events will be taking place. Just an idea.

Or they could go type in Vancouver in the search box, or click one of many Vancouver links on the page? :) Disinclination 08:24, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
I was talking about a map that had an overlay of where the evnts are going to be taking place. kinda like.. an arrow pointing to the place where bobsled will take place.. and then another arrow where speedskating will take place. Just examples.

[edit] Ringette as a Demonstration Sport in 2010?

Although bringing this up is kind of old, one of the announcers on CBC commented that Ringette could be (or already is) going to be a demonstration sport for the 2010 Winter Olympic Games. Could anyone find me any info (not implying that I am not looking myself, for I am), or a list of demonstration sports for the upcoming Olympics? Anything is appreciated. Disinclination 08:17, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

As far as I know, the IOC has eliminated demonstration sport from the Olympics. I know that new events MIGHT be added to the official program, but I have no knowledge of demonstration sports taking place in Vancouver. By the way, how "old" is this information? Perakhantu 08:44, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New heading needed

We need a new heading on this page that addresses what an Olympic event really is, and what it means socially as well as economically for our community to host the 2010 Olympic event.

So far all I see are a smattering of generic facts primarily derived through boosterism.

Considering that the last three Olympic events were economic disasters - Salt Lake City $1.2 billion deficit with almost zero negligible return, as reported by the CBC; Athens $12 billion deficit that has crippled Greece, as reported by the Globe and Mail; and Turin - still counting, but threatened bankruptcy two months before their event, as reported by the Vancouver Sun, lets see some facts on Wiki regarding the economic ramifications to the community regarding hosting the 2010 event.

I'm not talking about including facts that are solely meant to paint an anti-Olympic picture, but instead facts that give readers a balanced view of what really occurs regarding any Olympic event. I am pro-Olympic, but feel that in order to create a comprehensive version of 2010 on Wiki you have to include all the facts, not just a biased perspective extolling the virtues.

It is impossible to stay neutral regarding Olympic facts because we are now learning that many Olympic facts are questionable. The best Wiki can ever do regarding the Olympics is present a wider spectrum of information and let readers decide what is true or fiction. If readers only see regurgitated information, which we now know is often misinformation, or safe information that serves to only "boost" the Games, then this page is harmful to the community.

The economic devastation the modern Olympics causes to a host community is not speculation. I know because I invested over three years and a six figure budget researching what happens to a host community when the Olympics comes to town. I wrote a book about it and produce a sister blog that discusses in real time the impact of 2010 on Vancouver. This information is well-documented realty and it should be included as part of a treatise on 2010 or beyond.

Perpetuating myth is a disservice to readers and the community.

So far the links on this Wiki page represent pro-Olympic organizations, and anti-Olympic organizations, but nothing regarding viable information for the local community. The Olympics is not only black or white. It is grey too, which ironically is neutral. Consequently, so far Wiki is breaking it's own rules by not having all views represented.

The modern Olympics is a social animal, not a collection of useless statistics.

We need a new headingOlyBLOG 20:45, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2010 Winter Olympics bidding results not correct

107 people voted in the first round. But 109 people voted in round 2. How can there be 2 extra voters? There is a error there. - 218.186.8.10 17:17, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

On the first round, Salzburg was eliminated therefore the only Austrian IOC member, who was forbidden to vote earlier, could now vote on the final round. The second extra vote might have come from a member who abstained on the first round but chose to cast his/her vote on the second decisive round. Parutakupiu talk || contribs 18:36, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
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